*** Windows 10 + NVIDIA WHQL Drivers are Killing Alienware and Clevo LCD Panels ***

You're definitely cool enough. It's my fault you cannot send a message. I had my messaging turned off because I have been very busy at work and traveling. I kept for forgetting to turn it on again. I just did, so you should be able to get through now.

It's going to be a busy weekend and coming week. I've got a new beast laptop incoming for review and testing. I'm excited about that, but there's an awful lot to do and not much time to get it done.

 

MicroSoft's reply in this article is BS!

From day one of me getting my machine, (mid August) this was checked in my optional updates. I already wrote about this in this thread, warning others to stay on their toes. I unchecked it, went back to important updates, started the download of what I wanted, then I see Windows 10 is being installed! And I was like Michael Scott. Except, I added "Abort! Abort! Abort!" then, "This is my machine! FU (forget you ), I decide!" All upgrades hunted down and eradicated!

 

Ok I got my new panel in and I am up and running again.

Windows 7 fresh install with SP1. Auto updates turned off. I am running modded 353.06. I did NOT install EVGA Precision X. We shall see how long I stay unbricked. I'll keep the group updated . . .

 

You should be fine. I plan on doing pretty much the same. Just make sure to note any programs or updates installed before a brick if it does happen. Every brick has taught us something new so at least some good comes from all this destruction.

@Mr. Fox- any update on Windows 10 without Precision X? When my screen is finally fixed, I'd like to run a fully up-to-date system including video drivers if possible.



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Wait! Is this what I think it is? This beast rose up from the ashes and flying on wings of fire right onto your desk to be tamed???

OMG!!! Please keep us updated! We want to know every detail! :thumbsup:

 

its not, by chance, the p870dm?

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Is it marked Shipped? Because if it's still In Production don't hold your breath on getting it. Unless of course you are getting it from Newegg or Amazon.

 

Never mind I thought you were talking about someone else.

 

More to follow soon. Hint: look to the Sky... Spoiler... I am awestruck by it.

 

fox has got some eurocom connection going for him

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Wish I did! Don't have enough renown in the community yet... I'd love to get early samples, perform mods, then put it out for all to see...

 

keep up the good work ajc, ure already on the right path to enthusiast greatness

but yeah, reaching the spheres of the likes of fox, prema, svl7, johnksss etc. takes a looooot of hard work, dedication, friendliness towards enthusiast colleagues and tons of technical knowledge! i for one already know for sure im never gonna join those ranks, just cuz i dont have the time required for such feats of wiz-dom im just here for fun, its a hobby

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Don't sell yourself short @jaybee83 you're a shining star in the Clevo forum. You and @ajc9988 were out front on the ZMs, leading the way. And your owner's lounge OP set the bar for others to follow.

It's good to see Mr. Fox excited after this past year's letdowns and this display fiasco.

 

Win 10 again ? m17x with dual radeon 5870 graphics card. http://na.alienwarearena.com/forums/thread/117016/technical-support-1/windows-10-black-screen-1

 

Interesting it is a Radeon...

 

Everything happens right after installation of Win 10. Is this a connection or something that can happen only now and then?

 

We knew win 10 or readiness updates were a necessary condition for this. We knew it was g-sync ready drivers. But always a third program was needed. Finding out which driver was used is paramount. Specifically if there was a change in free sync support in the driver. Was he using a program to overclock? If so, which program? Etc. I like that you asked whether there was the right beeps, but he could have also had a simple hardware failure. How old is his machine (those are some old graphics cards)?!? So much more info is needed before we ash it is the same...

Edit: if it wasn't clear (because I mentioned Nvidia drivers), I was meaning amd drivers...

 

I don't know that it's the same issue. He has the exact same laptop as me. Back then it was the m17x r2 with dual 5870's. I have been running Win 10 since the first public preview on it up til now with the latest 10565. I'm on the fast ring with the insider program on it. But I don't overclock on it and have never run Precision X or any other program like that. It must be at least 5 to 6 years old. It's a real workhorse and still plays all the games at lower settings of course. Best laptop I've ever owned. Also I keep the latest video drivers on it. Hope that helps.

 

hi

I just bought alienware 18 with GTX780M, and windows 8.1 pro installed

is it safe to upgrade to windows 10 then?
because on dell site it says that my laptop has been tested and can be upgraded to win10.

any advice?

 

I'd be risky to update at the very best. If you EVGA Precision X it will brick for sure. If you don't it's by chance...

I'm going back to win 7 once I fixed mine.

Mr. Fox is running an experiment now

 

I recommended to uninstall the Win 10 garbage and instead install earlier Os. May be a a simple hardware failure (old Amd system). But anyway; Win 10 is trash and should be uninstalled . He have no pleasure of DX12 on that old system. So why Win 10 ? I don't get it.

 

i am fine with 8.1.

 

Sometimes depends on the "position" and quality of the thermal pads - My son has had 2 x 7970's in his M18xR2 for close to three years with no issues, repasted and cleaned every 8-12 months.

I've had a R9 M290x in my old m18xR1 for almost 12 months with no issues.

Almost all the "faulty" AMD GPU's I have seen in Alienware systems over the years have had the thermal pads mashed together, sometime overlapping leaving other components bare.
I've also seen a few NVidia cards like this, but no where near the volume compared to AMD

Ahhh - And here I was hoping for a unlocked AW18R2 with desktop 6th gen CPU and dual 16GB GTX1080m GPU

Given how old those cards are - and how dam hot they ran, it may be something else....

 

It's not the cards, it's the display. He stated that it worked on external display.

 

More to follow soon... here's a little teaser... @D2 Ultima - get your credit card ready, dude.

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I don't own one of those! I need to sell my body!

Who wants mah body? =O

 

Dead....sexay!

 

Wowww... Any more details or you just going to tease us . price bracket or when available

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Sky X9 has to be the nicest laptop I have ever had the privilege of handling and this thing should be a holy terror once @ Prema has the system BIOS ready to go.

EUROCOM SKY X9 is available for order now. No point in going for some hopeless machine with a BGA CPU that cannot avoid throttling if its life depended on it. This makes everything available anywhere obsolete, especially with Eurocom partnering with Prema. With respect to the last generation comparisons, this is similar yet better pricing, nicer machine and better performance. 6700K is a great CPU. Haswell sucks. 6700K runs 4.5GHz on stock voltage... effortlessly, and with good temps. Haswell is a blast furnace CPU. On chipset, CPU and features, this absolutely annihilates anything anyone else is selling.

This is a dual MXM slot beast. The one I am reviewing and will share intimate details on in the next week or so has a single GTX 980 desktop GPU. If you already own a pair of 980M cards that don't work well in the machine you intended to upgrade, put them in one of these bad boys. Until two of these GTX 980 are available in SLI, 980M SLI still rules the roost. You will not be disappointed in this monster. Wait for the review to see more details (coming soon) rather than take my word for it now if you're skeptical. And, with the way the industry is circling the drain, you should be skeptical. We are surrounded by garbage.

Here's a link to the 3DMark 11 benchmark in the teaser video. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10415872

 

cripes Fox, instead of Jason you need to dress up like Bane; why did I get the feeling this whole time you do in fact have the build of a bar room bouncer to back up that mouth of yours? Nice to see you weren't a nerd behind all this, who was weighin' a buck fifty ... let's hope u get to keep your sample or get it at discount. *thumb's up*

 

Might be time for me to jump ship too.

Dam the morons at Alienware who came up with BGA and soldered GPU's

 

We should post plenty of reviews of this monster laptop to all of mr. Azors/Dells e-mail, Facebook, Twitter accounts. Even in all Aw/Dell forums. All sites Dell use. Ask why Mr. Azor said desktop processors can't be used in laptops. Because he said desktop processors is not a good idea in laptops. LOL. Mr. Azor should ask his engineering team to make even thinner Aw models for 2016/17 models. Because BGA hardware fits best in CrApple thin laptops. Then Dell can compete with Apple about who have the thinnest laptop in the world. Newest Aw laptops is very portable but not with the G/A. Maybe Dell will update their graphic amplifier with a special Bga graphics instead of using newest most powerful Nvidia graphics in their gaming series laptops? Because you can't use a +200w graphics in a laptop as rebadged Alienware 2015/16 models.

 

Looking at the specs of this beast actually made me smile same way when I first found out about the M18xR2 back in 2012! (Not gonna lie I giggled too)

I'll be eagerly waiting your in depth review @Mr. Fox... I'm thinking of grabbing one with a single 980m and then taking one out of my m18xr2 n putting it in the Sky x9. This model comes Sli capable regardless of factory config right?

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juuuust in case anyone missed this quote before, i thought it was worth keeping it for the history books

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20% Tax for import to the UK.. oh deer

 

Yeah, it should have been like this:

Spoiler: Spread de word of da Phoenix!

It seems we have to wait until @XMG open up his gates for the Phoenix in November!?

 

If memory serves me correctly I think Azor made a few other porky pie statements too.

Something about no quality 18 inch screens, and desktops CPU not being suitable/available. I think there may have been a few others too.

Anyway, Azor was like a politician - Skirted every question and never really answered anything directly - He's a spin doctor, not a C.O.E.

 

Might be a retarded question, but did anyone encounter this problem while using a GTX970m?
I just installed W10 yesterday before reading this post, but already assuming its just a mather of time before my LCD panel will die...

Only thing i can find though, it that is happened while using the high end cards (*80m).....

 

Iirc it's not dependent of the Card u're sporting but more which Driver Version u've installed on your rig. Though it is speculated that Nvidia "removed quietly" what used to be a catalysator of the LCD-bricking from their side.

You at least should avoid using EVGA Precision X for some time. The root is WinGoofs 10 (more likely their Win10 ready updates - my personal opinion) and the catalysts are/were NGreedia Drivers and EVGA Precision X.

And nope! No 100% Guarantee can be given actually, sadly....

 

Hey,

I have the exact same issue on my brand new and shinny P751DM-G. The display sometimes does that flickering and the image (in windows) looks pixelated like hell. A reboot fixes the pixelated image and the issue does not happen while booting (displaying boot logo).

I did not manage to read the following steps after this page, but is there a solution or this matter is not of any concern? Am I "walking" towards a dead display?

 

I'm fairly certain this was Intel and Microsoft... Alienware can only sell what is offered.

Oh sure... after you convinced me to upgrade my M18xR1... now I'm stuck for 3-4 years! No new funding... JK... enjoy... you rat b*****!

Homer

 

That's how mine started... Does post still appear? Are you using oc software like precision x? Need more info!

 

The only retarded question is one not asked.......

Is your GTX970 in one of the new BGA model Alienware laptops (2015)?

I don't think there has been any reports of those models spitting the dummy with windoze 10

 

It posts ok. Actually it works ok so far. Every once in a while it does that flickering thing and boots to a pixelated image.

I am not using any OC software. Except xtu for undervolting the cpu and the built in gpu software (that comes preloaded with the clevo hot key app I believe). I installed the latest nvidia drivers model from laptop2go but reverted to the ones provided my clevo (354.09).

I don't recall exactly if the flickering was with the model drivers or clevo ones, but I will know for sure now that I am will run only the clevo ones.

What other info can I provide? Let me know.

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That thought crossed my mind, still no excuse for the soldered GPU's but.......................

With that in mind maybe they will release something worthwhile soon

 

Did you DDU when changing drivers? I'll need to ask what base for Clevo gpu overclock is used... @jaybee83, @Prema, @D2 Ultima, do you guys know? I can't see your tag, do you have the g-sync model? Hmmm...

 

I did use DD when changing drivers (reboot to safe mode and all).
You can see in signature the config details; yes I have the g-sync model.
Just noticed you said you cant see the sig. The config is as follows:
i5 6500
980m
15.6" LG Philips LP156WF6 60hz Gsync
16gb ddr4 @ 2400mh.

And I just got home, turned on the laptop (from a clean shutdown) and here it was, the problem at hand. The image looked fine while the laptop was booting (the clevo logo) but it suddenly went pixelated at the login screen and in-windows. A reboot fixed it.

See the screenshots.

 

Both photographs look exactly like what happened to my work PC. It has a built in APU that couldn't handle the 2560X1440 resolution of my new monitor (Windows thought it could and set that resolution), so I had to upgrade the PC. As an interim fix I just had to lower the resolution to 1920X1080 and it looked normal.

Edit: work PC runs Windows 7 Enterprise (a USAF standard desktop configuration, or SDC) and has an AMD APU (both old and new PC).

 

Sorry for taking the thread off topic with my own excitement. Let's stick to the matter at hand. I won't answer any questions about the SKY X9 here in this thread, so don't ask.

So, without EVGA Precision X I am having zero problems with Windows 10 bricking my LCD. My display has never had the EDID corrupted yet... that's good news. But, we still need to understand what happened, and why.

In the next week or so, as time permits and assuming my luck continues to hold out, I will start with an older version of EVGA Precision X, run it a day or two, and incrementally update to a new version to see if we can identify a change in versions where the EDID corruption takes place. That may help NVIDIA and Alienware identify what Windows 10 might have changed that coincides with a change in EVGA Precision X. As NVIDIA Inspector causes no harm, I suspect it may be the pixel overclocking feature in EVGA Precision X that doesn't play nice with whatever got changed at the OS level.

 

How can I check if my EDID is/was/is going to, (be) corrupt(ed)?