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    Windows7 here I come...

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by findvikas, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. findvikas

    findvikas Notebook Deity

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    Cannot control my excitement as we are going to hit the PUBLIC BETA stage on this coming Friday. You will have the whole weekend to try your hands out.

    Keep a watch on http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

    EDIT:

    The Windows 7 Beta is going to be available download-only (we’re not sending out physical media) and available for a limited time to the first 2.5 million people who download the beta. So get lucky and get yourself the beta as it launch.

    It is already made available to MSDN Subscribers & Technet subscribers!!!

    Chaz, I know this is not the right forum, but wanted to know ma fellow know about it. Please feel free to move it to correct place.
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    will the beta expire upon the official release date?
     
  3. Thagoris

    Thagoris Notebook Geek

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    I can't remember how they did XP, but I think Vista expired after a certain period of time.
     
  4. findvikas

    findvikas Notebook Deity

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    Yepp... it will as BETA version go out of support once we hit the RTM stage and there is no further development against beta after that
     
  5. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    vista must be junk if microsoft is procuding windows 7 already.

    they lied about the directx 10 and gaming which never took off and never made an impact to gaming.

    This was the reason why my family and friends have gone to Apple Mac OS.
     
  6. Ungjaevel

    Ungjaevel Notebook Consultant

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    What will be the advantages of 7?

    I've had experience with Vista Ultimate and it was painful.
     
  7. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    probably not much because bill gates love to lie to us espcially regarding directx10.
    i wouldnt be surprise if its another hype and only just another vista with sp3 rebranded as windows 7
     
  8. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    so... i should skip vista and go right into windows 7???
     
  10. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    tyronne, please. if i post a link like that, you should at least follow the link and see what it says before trying to discredit it. there's hard data proving 7 is faster than Vista and XP:

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236&page=2
     
  12. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    i did read the link did say it was only a rumour till somone brings out the beta to prove it but even then it did say it doesn't mean ms will produce it.
     
  13. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    i give up.
     
  14. findvikas

    findvikas Notebook Deity

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    Hehehehe.... you better do that. Some things will never change and some people will never change their mindset with MS. Oh,.. they still cant live without Windows.

    I am using Win7 from day 1 of its internal release, yeah I am a MSFT and I prefer using it than Vista
     
  15. Levenly

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    if the benchmarks were from the beta, xp, and vista, i see no reason to discredit windows 7. they're not going to make it worse than the beta. microsoft wouldn't lie to the public about releasing a brand new OS when it already had problems with the last one. manye people were disappointed with Vista, and microsoft doesn't wanna upset people again.
     
  16. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    i am just upset with the directx10 hype and marketing lies.
     
  17. Levenly

    Levenly Grappling Deity

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    but as an OS, windows 7 performs better. it seems to be less of a resource hog than Vista (i read somewhere people were using less memory) and it works better thus far.

    if its performance is nice, theres no benefit staying on Windows XP (and of course not Vista), which microsoft already said they're trying to discontinue it.
     
  18. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    it would be nice if microsoft is sincerely apologetic about releasing unfinished products such as ms flight sims x and vista by giving out micrsoft office 2009 with all the windows 7 sold at less than the price of current vista.
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i know cnet suck but they said it was running nice on a P4 with 512 ram nice. i know people have tried Win 7 with games i haven't heard of any huge gains in FPs but hopefully the driver will help when they come along. they should make a windows 7 gaming edition cut all the crap and optimize the system for games whooo
     
  20. Thagoris

    Thagoris Notebook Geek

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    A gaming version of an OS would be pretty sweet.
     
  21. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no kidding save us hours of optimizeing and cutting and purging lucky AW make it easier but i wish i could be one of the first 2.5 million to download beta but i have a 400mb limit on my internet :( :( freakin hughes net

    balmer said only the first 2.5 million can get it from microsoft so i guess torrent site will be hit after that .. may be the most pirated os ever? at least pre release ..xp is pirated now so much
     
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    Ungjaevel Notebook Consultant

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    The Windows 7 Beta is going to be available download-only (we’re not sending out physical media) and available for a limited time to the first 2.5 million people who download the beta. So get lucky and get yourself the beta as it launch.

    It is already made available to MSDN Subscribers & Technet subscribers!!!
     
  24. Koshinn

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    Its not rumors and hear-say. Read the entire article rather than the first two lines.

    They couldn't post real benchmarks because that would mean they had an illegal copy of Windows 7, thus the instant target of a DMCA law suit. Now that it's available legally, they can start to post real numbers.
     
  25. Ungjaevel

    Ungjaevel Notebook Consultant

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    First: Ah. The blog post links to the article. I only read the blog note at first. I didn't see the tiny "read ->" link at the bottom.

    Second: Where's the "hard data" proving that 7 is better? All I see is 1,2 and 3 score which I can't relate to at all. Yes I see that 7 is better, but what does it mean in "real" hard data? Get my point? CPU Benchmark? HD Benchmark? GPU Benchmark? Etc... But OK - if they aren't allowed to post it - I get it. Then I'm excited to see some "hard data"!

    Third: I'm sensing lots of attitude in this thread. Without pointing fingers, maybe some more tolerance and understanding would be appropriate?
     
  26. fusionsenses

    fusionsenses The Unbannable

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    Did you even read the benchmark and tests?
     
  27. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    love your avatar right there, fusion :D
     
  28. fusionsenses

    fusionsenses The Unbannable

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    Every thread with the word "MS" in it is filled with "Anti-MS" fanbois.
     
  29. fusionsenses

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    thx. ......
     
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    Honestly there is proof out right now that Windows 7 is running better than XP and Vista. Please take the time to read links before posting stuff like this. You're coming off as a huge fanboy again and it's getting old.

    Excerpt
    ZDNet's Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pitted the beta up against XP and Vista in some informal "real-word" tasks like boot up, shut down, file maneuvers, installations and other common tasks. On both test systems, an AMD Phenom 9700 setup and an Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2200 number (with ATI and NVIDIA graphics, respectively), the Windows 7 install soundly bested XP and Vista task by task, with few exceptions. Performance testing is never an exact science, but it's clear that Microsoft is taking performance very seriously this time around -- we can't wait for the next conveniently-leaked beta to bolster this rep even further. Next on the benchmarking agenda? Real World: Brooklyn tasks.
     
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    I have heard about this many weeks ago already that Win 7 is faster and I think it doesn't make any difference to me because I think vista is stable for me already, compared to xp. In the past I have lots of trouble with xp that I have to reinstall like twice a year or even higher, now with vista, the number reduced. But put those aside, I still prefer linux if wine can play all the games on the market without reduce quality, textures..

    as for mac, *smirk*, I don't think I could stand using that since I'm not familar with it and the only good thing about mac so far is the safari on intel machine.
     
  33. FoxTrot1337

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    Just wondering, for those who went with the single 160 GB hard drive and installed Windows 7, were you able to dual boot?

    I had this problem on my Dell, where I could not partition my drive to install Ubuntu.

    I want to know how easy was it to install Windows 7 for those who had the 160 gb option and kept Windows Vista too.
     
  34. E-wrecked

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    yea..create a new partition and install. Win7 configures the Bootcfg to dual boot. However, you can't view the Vista partition from Win7 but can view the Win7 partition thru Vista. I installed on 1 HDD no problem.
     
  35. FoxTrot1337

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    How do I create a new partition? I thought I could do it through disk management.
     
  36. findvikas

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    You can if you have free space left on your disk. Consider you have single partition on which Vista is installed. Right click on it and 'shrink' the partition to make a room of 20-25gb. create a new partition on newly created free space. install win7 on this partition.
     
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    -Thanks a lot!
     
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    i think it's funny how many anti-ms fanboys are on here
     
  39. fusionsenses

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    That usually won't work unless you use some good defrag program to move all the data and create a big empty space at the end (physically) of the hard drive space. Windows defrag doesn't do that.

    Or you can get a third party partition program, which will move that data to create the empty space for the new partition.
     
  40. findvikas

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    Vista if configured automatically defrag the drive and keep it in healthy state. Diskmgmt takes care of it, and I have not seen it failing so far.
     
  41. matt-helm

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    Any driver issues with windows 7? 32bit or 64bit version? any benchmark results?
     
  42. Ungjaevel

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    Why? I don't know.
     
  43. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Wheres the link for download, that link wont even open now.
     
  44. whizzo

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    Oh ... I tryed to dl it but all servers are down ... ok ... English and German^^

    ...

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  46. fusionsenses

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    From my understanding, VISTA defrag doesn't consolidate empty space, it only defrag.
     
  47. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    I can see my vista partition in 7. >.>
     
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    Im downloading it now. Does it include a KEY? or is it unlocked?
     
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    Would it be possible to install AlienFX just like the find's x64 method?
    I plan on installing it on a external USB drive (32gb), is that a ok idea?
     
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