Witcher 3 Wild Hunt

Hey,

I got my copy today. Optimization is terrible, totally crapped. Possibly no optimization at all. See these charts -> http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/

Next tests -> http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzn...n_test_procesorow_i_kart_graficznych?page=0,5

Sorry didn't find any in English language but FPS are known to everyone


They were working on it for 3 years and released that kind of crap? Only GTX Titan X struggles with maintaining 60 fps. It's just unacceptable ..

Any1 tried running it?

 

Optimization for me is not too bad, im using 980m sli with a 3720qm, and im constantly getting 60fps in game(i have to drop the special hair effect since i dont know any difference on that). After all this game does require atleast a 970 or 980 to run on ultra.

 

Game looks a little better than skyrim but requires 2 Times more powerful hardware, jesus what a crap.

Waiting for some new TES game with good engine

 

Yeah, I've just seen on Guru3d where they linked those benchmark tests - Witcher 3 really hates Kepler with a passion! Really favours Maxwell this title - hopefully they will release a patch to improve Kepler performance (unlikely!?) and maybe there will be big Kepler NVidia driver improvements (also unlikely probably!?). What kind of settings can you run it at, and what fps do you have to aim for to get a good experience?

 

do i need new drivers? =/

EDIT: SLI works great with 352.86 aka newest drivers

 

Yes. 352.86 has the SLI profile.

 

is there a version that's modified to work with m18xR1 780m?

 

Do you usually require mod to install driver?

 

yes

 

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=377158

 

i just did mine as per mr. fox's "driver inf modification help" thread and it worked...just had to change 4 lines in the nvdmi.inf file.....will report back after install

 

ok...SLI is now working....witcher 3 is maxing out both of my 780m's to 100% just standing in a room...and at only 35fps...wowz

EDIT: game looks PHENOMENAL maxed out...glad i got the SLI

 

Hey guys.
I've just installed the witcher 3 on my pc and damn this is a demanding game! I have an alienware 18 with 780m sli. With everything on ultra i seem to be averaging 35fps. Turning down to high seems to get around 38 and medium is low 40's. Only on low settings do i get the magic 60fps. What sort of fps is everyone else getting and what would you consider playable? It also seems to stutter a bit on any setting.

 

Install new driver.

Game is not optimized at all so expect very low fps.

 

880M on 780M clocks getting same results as yours, it also stutters for me a bit. This port from console is unacceptable...

 

How the hell do you play at 35 FPS in SLI. So much microstutter.

 

That's because you have SLI and FPS is not high enough to prevent the feeling of microstutter.

 

im running newest driver, game can sometimes (often) not even break 30fps at max settings 780m SLI...looks so good though

^ that's WITHOUT any AA, 1920x1080

nvidia hairworks is probably the coolest thing ive seen in video games in the last few years...just phenomenal

 

Looks like this could be a console game then....

 

What the hell has CDPR been doing the last 3 years? They majorly downgraded the game at least twice and still has this kind of piss poor performance. Ubisoft must be sooo proud.

 

Yeah CDPR definitely sold out to consoles. They downgraded the graphics like no tomorrow for PlebStation and Xbone yet it still runs like crap on PC.

 

It's interesting that if you disable tessalation completely (by config hack) game will run much much better...

 

Probably because it disables HairWorks too since that uses extreme line tessellation for the hair/fur rendering and is super demanding

 

You can have Hairworks disabled and when you disable tessalation is still gives a big boost

 

Ah yes, terrain and water tessellation is also employed. Although boost may be smaller on 900M since Maxwell 2 supposedly has up to 3x faster tessellation performance than Kepler due to upgraded tessellation hardware (Polymorph Engine 3.0).

 

this is without a doubt the best looking game ive ever played

people's hair, necklaces even the leather belts and stuff are all individual models with their own physx its nuts

 

It sure seems as though releasing new AAA game titles, at AAA premium prices, that run like pure garbage is the business model most of the developers are following. It make sense to be cheapskate like me and wait for the price to drop to $20 or less now more than ever before, LOL. In this scenario, the outcome of not being in a big hurry to blow extra money on worthless digital garbage seems like an exercise of intelligence and brilliant wisdom, but I really am just a stingy, penny-pinching miser.

Try overclocking it and see if you still think it works great. My 780M SLI runs rock solid at stock clocks. Goose it with a mild overclock and core runs 405MHz and memory at 400MHz under load. This driver is pure feces for 780M in my experience. 350.12 was the same. Works OK with 980M, but not 780M for me.

Wolfenstein: The New Blood whined and moaned and nagged me to install 350.12 at every launch. It ran as smooth as silk... flawless with 345.20 DT Cuda mod.

 

I have some CUDA files from 337.xx which @Matrix Leader6 had made a thread about... What is this 345.20 CUDA mod @Mr. Fox ??

 

It is my modded desktop driver with @j95 CUDA encoder mod added. See thread in main Alienware forum.

Here is what 780M runs like ( stock) with 350.12 and this new feces 352.86 Witcher 3 driver... nice, huh? Runs flawless with 345.20 DT mod.

 

My GPU runs all the time on 352.xx newest drivers with SLI profile. Older drivers will not have SLI working properly in Witcher 3, there is no other choice. My 880M runs everyday on 824 MHz but for Witcher 3 I set standard 954 MHz clock through msi afterburner and it works.

And I don't have throttling on 350.12.

352, clock 940 MHz (for test) Maximum settings, no hairworks, fxaa, Disabled bugged foliage distance - http://imgur.com/a/rRJ3u

 

Amazing, I remember we talked about this when the last driver came out that was no good for 780M sli - 352.86 is still fine for my overclocked 670MX, strange that for some Kepler cards the later drivers are garbage.

 

That you do not have the problem is a good thing. It only malfunctions on my systems with 780M for some reason. 980M works OK.

I extracted the profiles from the zip files that @j95 provided in this post and replaced the original files in my 345.20 CUDA DT driver mod and now have the profiles for this new driver without having to mess with GFE (which is not installed).

Yes, it is really strange. I don't understand what the deal is, unless maybe it is the extremely aggressive vBIOS mod that I am running on my 780M GPUs. I still think NVIDIA is doing to less than honorable things behind the scene with drivers to try to make laptops draw less power. That really pisses me off. Using @j95 350.12 Alienware anti-throttle driver mod my 980M SLI setup draws around 80W more on my CyberPower UPS meter than stock 350.12 (530W versus 610W) with an identical 1302/1403/1.087V overclock in 3DMark 11 test #1.

I also believe whatever cancer NVIDIA is injecting into their drivers facilitates 980M throttling on Alienware systems might be why my 780M cards throttle with newer drivers with the power-gobbling vBIOS mod. This is speculation on my part, but I don't know what else it could be. 780M in @Papusan 17 does not throttle like mine do.

 

That's very interesting too! Do the clocks remain at the same stable clocks when testing each of those drivers? If the clocks remain at the same stable values then the power draw difference is due to another limitation or reason I guess.

 

Yes, clocks are stable either way. I just tested @j95 350.12 Alienware driver mod on my Clevo out of curiosity. I was hoping it would do something to help the black screen overclocking limit my 980M cards have. (It did not, and now I think that is a thermally induced black screen and need to get my AC cooling setup in place to test that theory.) It not only drew more power using his driver mod, but it also increased the 3DMark 11 score graphics score by a few hundred points. His driver mod probably forces a higher TDP on my Clevo. If that is the case, that might be pushing my 780M cards too hard on the TDP with the vBIOS I am running on them.

[Nikos] M18xR2 is drawing way more power than I have ever seen on an M18xR2 with any GPU using @Prema test BIOS and @j95 350.12 mod, so that also leads me to believe that TDP is getting kicked way up. That's an awesome thing and very desirable, as long as you have enough AC adapter to accommodate that level of awesomeness.

I think everything would be just peachy if the fools at NVIDIA would stop trying to play God with overclocking and power consumption. They must have a bunch of retarded tree-huggers in their executive ranks that believe the silly myth that we are headed for an Apocalyptic meltdown due to out-of-control energy consumption and carbon footprint, blah, blah, blah, because they sure are going out of their way to screw things up.

 

@Mr. Fox I am running a 680m, I7 3820qm, 16 GB ram on a M17x R4. Would you recommend I get into overclocking to get better performance? or do you think the performance boost will not be worth it, I am a novice when it comes to overclocking and would appreciate help if you believe it will make a safe and noticeable difference in performance. Let me know what you think.

 

Can you maybe give me the link you used for the config hack?

 

Hey,

I'm in the hospital right now but there configuration tool now available on the Internet as I heard. Just disable everything with word tessellation and game will boost much

 

Overclocking is a lot of fun, but some games are unstable with overclocking. It can vary widely by game. As long as you monitor temps closely and the game is stable a conservative overclock can help improve performance. If you are having an issue with lower FPS than desirable, it is better (and more effective) to do like @GodlikeRU suggested and disable tessellation or lower some other graphic quality setting. Many of them have a far more pronounced adverse effect on quality than any measurement of what minimal value they contribute to the game experience. In an action game with tons of movement, I have a very difficult time seeing a difference in image quality, anti-aliasing, etc. Color vibrancy and smoothness are much more noticeable. Unless you really get off on capturing a ton of screen shots or like boring games without a lot of rapid movement, and non-stop action, the jaggies and shimmers are going to be difficult to notice when your concentration is totally consumed elsewhere. Maxed out graphics quality settings are seriously overrated, in my opinion. In most cases all you really accomplish by maxing them out is unnecessarily taxing your hardware, diminishing your framerate, and potentially diminishing your experience overall.

 

I agree, although I tend to try & keep Lighting quite high because that can have a noticeable effect even when at speed. Shadow Quality and high AA levels are the first things I tend to sacrifice. I always keep Anisotropic Filtering maxed out at x16 though, either through NVidia Control Panel (if not supported directly in the game) or through the in-game menus - makes a world of difference in my eyes for almost zero performance hit.

680M overclocks like a banshee with svl7 modified vBIOS, but you need good low temperatures, and you'll need to read around the topic & be certain what you're doing before you start, here's where you get the vBIOS, should be able to break the 1GHz barrier on the core quite easily with reasonable temperatures:
http://forum.techinferno.com/genera...-editions-modified-clocks-voltage-tweaks.html

 

I downloaded the tool but it has no mention of tessellation except for tessellation in regards to the water " http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/m...er3/ajax/moddescription/?id=12&preview=&pUp=1"

 

I installed 353.00 (also known as: 352.86) and it throttled every time I hit 93d C. GPU1 gets way too hot. I rolled back to 350.12 but kept the SLI profiles. It doesn't throttle now but the cards are utilized less so it never hits above 90d so I don't have a lot of performance increase vs throttling 353. I can't set the temp limit higher than 93 in MSI afterburner. What can I do now? 880M is a travesty.

 

Whoa man 93 is way too high. It should throttle on 93 because otherwise your GPu would be damaged. There's currently no way to properly utilize sli in w3 on drivers older than 353 :-(

My two 880m using modified amd heatsinks never even hits 80c!

 

That's strange though. My GPU2 never hits over 80degr either. I repasted both of them not long ago because GPU1 was too hot (didn't help a lot). I thought 880m's were well known for hitting 90degr C easily on stock? I kind of got used to low 90's temp for GPU1

I'm getting 40-50 frames (never under 40) with everything Ultra and turned on except for hairworks. Driver 353.


edit: I decided to reopen my precious laptop and found the culprit!

 

Is that a loose screw?

 

No, that is a plastic retainer clip that holds the screws into the spring arms on the GPU heat sinks. They no longer use the metal c-clips like they used to and those plastic things are just junk. I take them off and throw them away because they fall off on their own. I am guessing it was the culprit because it was stuck some place it did not belong. Otherwise, that retainer clip coming loose would not affect anything at all. It's only there to help avoid losing the screws. It serves no other purpose.

 

Yes it should not impact the temps if it's on there or not.

 

It was pressed into one of the thermal pads. I guess it fell off when I mounted the heatsink on there. I used IC Diamond 7 instead of the fail paste that was on there Noctua NT-H1. I get max 77 degr in FurMark 15min's. It even drops down to 75degr from minute 10 onwards.

 

IC Diamond is outstanding to use on video cards. It does a wonderful job on them.

 

Noctua NT-H1 is an useless paste. Would not used it on desktop components either. This is the biggest disappointment of alla paste I've tested. Overrated.

 

Actually, for me, the most worthless and ineffective thermal pastes that I have used are Tuniq TX-2 and TX-4. The pump-out is extraordinarily swift and it's not much better than putting hand lotion on your processors. It has been a while ago, but if memory serves me correctly it lasted about 2 days before I began having thermal management problems. I was traveling on business at the time and it was a pain in the butt to have to go get something else at Micro Center and repaste my beast in my hotel room after dinner to keep it from shutting down from overheating. I took the opened package back to Best Buy the next week when I returned home and got a refund on that garbage. I think that was TX-2, but I also tried TX-4 and found it was no better.