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    anyone actually using a q9200 in the m17x

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by zfactor, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. zfactor

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    and will it overclock via the bios? the microcode for it is not listed in the bios so im curious before i grab another one if anyone is actually running it in the new model m17x and can it be overclocked?? thanks please let me know asap.
     
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    You technically can't overclock the CPU, as the multipliers are locked, but you can overclock the FSB which affects everything (including the CPU). So, in a way, yes you can.
     
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    actually you are wrong. the q9200 does not have locked multi's its a es chip and is not a official intel release. and has unlocked multis as shown many times. it overclocks just fine in the whitebook and m17.. i just want to know about the m17x bios..
     
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    I'd like to know the answer to this question too since Shirley is now charging $520 for the QX9300 QS chips.
     
    Phinagle, Jul 9, 2009
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    I am almost positive someone here has one and the multipliers are unlocked in his BIOS.
     
    sleey0, Jul 9, 2009
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    in the m17 yes btu no one has it in the M17x
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 9, 2009
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    Yet. ;)

    Hopefully someone will attempt it, it'd be interesting to see.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Jul 9, 2009
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    im talking to Z about it ...
     
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    Whether the multiplier is locked or unlocked (it is unlocked) doesn't concern me as much as whether or not you can run a Q9200 in the M17x at all.

    I've only seen posts by people installing the quad in the M17 so far.
     
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    It's a Montevina (I think that's what it's called) chip just like all the others, so it should definetely work. Why don't you try it? You could just sell it again on eBay if it doesn't ;)
     
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    because the micro code that labels the chip in bios isn't there .... so basically we don't know if the BIOS will recognize it correctly ...
     
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    Being a Monty doesn't necessarily mean the CPU is supported by the BIOS.
     
    Phinagle, Jul 9, 2009
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    Okay, that's a good point. I stand corrected.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Jul 9, 2009
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    Has anyone found an answer to this question yet?
     
    AC/ No DC, Jul 14, 2009
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    A lot of system BIOS do not have the Q9200 label written, rather the BIOS just recognises the Q9200 as the QX9300 but with a lower factory clock speed. The same goes for the X9100. Many laptops do not have it specifically written in the BIOS, but because the entire Montevina P9xxx and T9xxx line and the X9100 are the same chip, it will recognise it and, if the BIOS enables it, will allow overclocking.

    The bottom line is the Q9200 will work in the M17x and you will have access to the unlocked multipliers.

    /thread.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 14, 2009
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    Now does anyone have it installed and how far can you push it? (My goal is 3.06/3.2 GHz).

    shirley's QX9300 went up in price to $520

    qx9200 is only $299...

    Another thing, shirley's Q9200 QAVR is @ 2.4 GHz? How does that work, I was under impression q/x/9200 is @ 2.2/or 2.3 GHz with unlocked multiplier... Does this one have an unlocked M?
     
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    What? The Q9100 is clocked at 2.26GHz. The Q9200 is clocked at 2.4GHz. It wouldn't make sense for the Q9200 to be clocked near the Q9100.

    Yes, for god sakes, it has unlocked multipliers. This entire thread sounds like a broken record.
     
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    Heheh I had a brain freeze, QX9300 is 2.6 Ghz where 9200 is 2.4, I had a mix up and unlocked M is good news.

    I remember someone in QX9300 threat that got closed by the MOD had one on order and waiting on the arrival to see if it works and OCes on m17x, I wonder what happened with that.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    How to overclock the QX9300 processor on the new M17x?

    you mean this thread? it is still open...
     
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    It's 2.53, you...
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Jul 14, 2009
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    Must still be going on :eek:
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 14, 2009
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  23. EviLCorsaiR

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    Mhhm.

    Btw, sorry ryujin, I probably shouldn't have called him that. Now I think of it thanks for removing that...lol.

    It annoys me when people get simple things wrong, but I really shouldn't get annoyed...unfortunately it's just in my personality to be like that :p

    I do wonder if anyone has tried a Q9200 in it yet. Actually now I think of it, why did Intel decide not to release it? My thought on it is so they could make a bigger markup on the Q9100...
     
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    IMO because them being so closely clocked people wouldn't pay for it ... they left them all at least .2 apart ....
     
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    Because it would have been pointless to release two Extreme CPU's that are clocked so close to each other.
     
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  26. Soviet Sunrise

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    Hivemind. 10char
     
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    2.53 , 2.6 .... rounding is the key :D
     
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    ????

    Also i think they would of closed the multipliers on the final chips ....

    or the q9200 was like the qx9300 but then they decided they ran perfect @ 2.53 and decided to go with that ....
     
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    OMG you arn't serious right ?

    2.53 rounds DOWN to 2.5 .... :eek:
     
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  30. Soviet Sunrise

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    Who the hell rounds up?
     
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    who the heck rounds incorrectly ?
     
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    WOW... look at that agro.... I know it's 2.53 but i just rounded up to next highest number, common we are talking 70 MHz here... really???

    If you guys wanna be like that how about 2504.9 Mhz? I'll take CPUz screen shot and post it once I get it to be more precise maybe?
     
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    Google is your friend for the meaning of hivemind, this thread has turned pretty hilarious in a bad way.
     
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  34. Soviet Sunrise

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    This guy's trying to save his own hide now.

    It doesn't really matter now. The fact that the Q9200's are so close to the Q9300, but are going for a really good price, is a godsend for those who were trying to pick up the Q9300 after all the babyboomer M17x users snatched them all.
     
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  35. Soviet Sunrise

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    And 2.5Ghz is only 30MHz away.
     
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    Then you would be rounding to 2.5 not 2.6.

    Also I'll be willing to try a Q9200 in my M17x as soon as I come up with the funds for it, which could be a few months after I get the M17x as I will be short on cash.

    The Q9200 is the upgrade chip I planned on replacing my P8600 with anyway, so I'll try it out, and if it works great, if not I'll sell it and buy a QX9300.
     
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  37. EviLCorsaiR

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    There are plenty of cases where they've done it before. I mean look at the (I think it's the) P8600 and P8700 or something like that...C2Ds clocked at 2.26GHz and 2.4GHz. As far as I'm aware they still sell them, don't they? And then there was the P-whatever that was 2.53GHz (I know it's now replaced with a 2.66GHz...before anyone starts on that)

    It's technically not an extreme. It's a Q9200, not a QX9200. Had it been released it likely would not have had unlocked multipliers.

    Erm...2.53 rounds down to 2.5...

    He does, apparently. :p And I would if it was 2.55GHz-2.99999...GHz, as it would make sense.
     
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    The fact still stands that the Q9200 does have unlocked multipliers, thus it can be considered an Extreme CPU. In an alternate universe where Intel does release it as a production CPU and it didn't have unlocked multipliers would it be a different story. The same goes with the QX9300. All systems read it as the Q9300, but we just give it the X because it has unlocked multipliers.

    Jesus, Crylo. You always show up out of nowhere, haha.
     
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    You guys taking it to the next level, we need more decimals for this precise conversation IMHO :D

    But yeah qx9200 looks like a very attractive deal, hope it OCes as good as qx9300 ES
     
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  40. zfactor

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    there is no such thing as a qx9200... ^^^^ and ill have a few q9200's to test soon
     
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    Ah but you see you asked what the point would be of releasing two extreme processors. As I said they *wouldn't* have released two extremes, whether or not the Q9200 was released, as it would have had locked multipliers. ;)

    Although I suppose that you're right that it can be considered as a QX9200.
     
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    Cool story, bro.
     
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    Are you calling me a liar? :eek:
     
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    Can someone show him "the" dictionary please?
     
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    If you call something a story, it can easily imply that it is a lie.
     
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    That's not what I meant; it's an expression.
     
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    There is no q9200 in production either

    That's what I base my naming schme on, thus Qx9200...
     
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    Okay, fair enough.
     
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    You have hurt my brain with this discussion.
     
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    I will let everyone know how it gos , i ordered one this morning a QAVS .

    Hopefully everything works as planned but of course ill keep everyone updated once everything arrives.
     
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