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    bios x36 temp reading fix

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by mixen, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. mixen

    mixen Notebook Guru

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    Hello, i don't know if this have already been posted so i'm sorry if it is the case.

    Just paid a visit in AW Technical Support Forums and it looks like a new version of ThermoFan have been released (OSD utility). After installing the update, it indeed fixes the 80 degrees bug and its now reporting correctly the CPU temperature :D . I'm on XP, therefore i can't provide any feedback for Vista users.

    The updated file should be in the MyHive as stated by an AW representative, but i could not find it in mine.
    So here is the link for those who did not find it too:

    linky for update



    UPDATE : I tested it a bit and looks like the temp are only reporting correctly in ThermoFan; SpeedFan still showing 80C.
     
  2. Method

    Method Notebook Geek

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    The important point is, does this have any affect on the fans? I can't see how, but Alienware seemed to think it would.
     
  3. mixen

    mixen Notebook Guru

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    Hmm... hard to tell. At the moment, my CPU Fan is quiet and it went full blast once for around a few seconds and then stopped.
     
  4. t2ppp124

    t2ppp124 Notebook Consultant

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    Ah! good find, it would appear that it is indeed version 1.0.0.5....

    Nice to know that my extreme CPU is runnnign at a sensible 52' idle ad with the 8800gtx at 44 and 37 (which sounds way too low) mindyou im not complaining if its right ;)
     
  5. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just ran the OSD update, and CPU temp on idle is 48C and GPU at 51C(skin) and 45C(internal) which is where it should be. :)

    However, HW Monitor still says 80C for ACPI temps.
     
  6. zengshengliu

    zengshengliu Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think what this update does is to take out the display of ACPI temps
    there were use to be 4 temperatures displayed
    CPU, ACPI, GPU skin and GPU internal
    but now only 3
    CPU, GPU skin and internal
     
  7. Method

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    So is this supposed to be the long awaited "stop the noisey fans" fix or just an update to the app?
     
  8. mixen

    mixen Notebook Guru

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    I doubt it *really* fixes the fan problem. My CPU idle was at 45C and the fan was still at high blast (~5000 r/min). But it will eventually stops, after a few minutes...
     
  9. Method

    Method Notebook Geek

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    ahh ok, thanks for that. I'm still on X34 and was waiting of this to be sorted before I changed. My fan doesn't come on until about 50ish and then cuts out again fairly quickly.
     
  10. shadedurza

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    links to this file for my mini hive?(see sig) all forms of vista needed.
     
  11. t2ppp124

    t2ppp124 Notebook Consultant

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    Grr they fix one thing then leave something else to irritate us.
    On this particular Thermofan, the issue is that the fan for the CPU does'nt do a single thing until gets to 55' then revs upto a nice (annoyingly loud) 5100rpm
    id feel happier if it ran just a little bit to reassure me (and keep a nice high 40's temperature.)
    Tom
     
  12. crystak

    crystak Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm, well I don't think this changed anything. If you open the Log File you will still see the 80C temperature being logged. It's just not displayed in the main Thermo Fan window.

    Code:
      Time                 CPU_temp  CPU_DTS_temp  VGASkin_temp  VGAInternal_temp  Fan_speed  Fan2_speed   
    =======================================================================================================
     2008-11-22 19:20:36     55'C       80'C       66'C               66'C        5093 RPM    2580 RPM
     2008-11-22 19:20:38     56'C       80'C       66'C               66'C        5120 RPM    2553 RPM
     2008-11-22 19:20:40     54'C       80'C       66'C               66'C        5067 RPM    2586 RPM
     2008-11-22 19:20:42     52'C       80'C       66'C               66'C        5067 RPM    2580 RPM
     
  13. zengshengliu

    zengshengliu Notebook Enthusiast

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    exactly
    there were use to be 4 temperatures displayed
    now only 3 are show
    thats mean they just hide one of them...
     
  14. Method

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    Thats what mine has always done.
     
  15. Oceanus

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    I was kind of skeptical about this but ah well, at least there is some way to gauge what the CPU temperature really is. In any case, I've already sent the findings back to Roswell and have requested them to fix the X36 BIOS instead (I really wish they could have worked on that in the first place).

    It seems like this new Thermo Fan Utility has only masked the issue. I can only wonder if it's showing the right CPU temp. I'm not too sure if I can think of any other program that can gauge the accuracy of the one Thermo Fan is reporting.

    Anywho, here are some of the pictures I've sent to them. As you can see, SpeedFan and HWMonitor are still showing 80C, and as crystik had pointed out, even the Thermo Fan logs show it.

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  16. whizzo

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    so how does Thermofan determine which value to show?
     
  17. Oceanus

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    According to the Thermo Fan log (the last picture), the CPU Temp reported in the log is shown as the CPU DTS Temp in the utility.
     
  18. findvikas

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    As I said on another thread they fixed something which wasn't broken :D
    I wish they worked on this 'logically'... no wonder if they say that other programs are not reading it correctly :p

    Ok... now let them fix the bios!
     
  19. Oceanus

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    Haha, yeah. I had the same feeling, but yes, you were right.
     
  20. Oceanus

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    I received an email this morning. This was in regards to findvikas' question (the one seen below) but it also has some relevance to all of you as well.

     
  21. findvikas

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    Glad we have Rebeca with us, thanks Oceanus
     
  22. Oceanus

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    No problem! Glad I could help by being the message carrier!
     
  23. Method

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    Have you heard anything back from AW yet?
     
  24. Oceanus

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    Not yet, I'll go ahead and throw them an email regarding the matter.
     
  25. rouGHman4

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    Have you heard anything back from AW yet?