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    comparison temps

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Friar_Tuck, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. Friar_Tuck

    Friar_Tuck Notebook Evangelist

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    As most of you know, a while back I decided to cancel my m15x order in favor of buying a Clevo m57RU (Sager 5793). I got it last week, and have been using it without any problems. I wanted to post a quick screen-cap of my temps after 2hrs. of Crysis on high, @ 1920x1200. This is just for comparison sake, but it shows what temp the 8800 is capable of running at with a robust cooling system.

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    EDIT: New temps without AC or a cooler are posted further down in the thread...
     

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  2. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx for the info Friar. Could you run a quick ATITool test with the fans set to auto and see how high you could get your gpu temp? I'd be very curious...
     
  3. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    Oh men... that's an iglo compared to the M15x. Obviously it's an 17''... but it does run cool. Congrats on your laptop's coice.
     
  4. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Max temps are at 71C after playing Crysis for 2 hours. That's pretty neato.
     
  5. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, I've never seen temps that low on any laptop, lol. Hell, my old Dell 9300 with 6800m reached well into the 90s on full load. I remember how we all used to ***** on the NBF forums about how that type of heat was alarming, this is unacceptable, ad nauseum... It's given me a rather strong feeling of deja vu on this forum lately with the m15x witch hunts. :p

    Oh, and the same laptop with the exact same gpu is still trucking after 2.5 years at my buddies house who plays WoW on it almost daily.
     
  6. Friar_Tuck

    Friar_Tuck Notebook Evangelist

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    hmmm... having trouble w/ATITool, because I'm running x64 Vista. It requires a digitally signed 64bit driver to run. Any tips? Sorry... I'm unfamiliar with this tool.
     
  7. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    No problem, thanks for trying. It probably doesn't run under 64 bit. Anyway, very impressive temps. Almost unbelievable to be perfectly honest but I'm assuming the program is correctly interpreting the temperatures. Enjoying the laptop so far? Any complaints or regrets?
     
  8. Friar_Tuck

    Friar_Tuck Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, I was frankly surprised myself. I expected mid 80s C. I am running it in an air-conditioned room, and it is sitting on a Zalman cooler. Maybe later today I'll turn the cooler off and retest. Yeah, I'll do that and post the results on this thread.

    I love the computer so far. The only downsides to the awesome power and cooling are the battery-life and the noisy fans. I never game on battery, but even doing low-grade stuff like Word and internet/email, I can only milk 2-2.5 hrs out of it! lol... Also, when it's doing more graphically intensive tasks like games or video-editing, the fans kick up to max and are pretty loud. No matter, to me it's a small price to pay.
     
  9. Loggie

    Loggie Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you sure those temperatures are accurate? Most of the people on this forum use RivaTuner or nVidia Monitor to check their temps.
     
  10. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    Good deal, glad to hear your enjoying it. Yea, that would be great if you could test it off the cooler and with fans set to auto and do some more crysis gaming on it. Would be a great comparison. Also let us know what temp your room is at as you're testing since that seems to be making a difference with some of us. Thanks!
     
  11. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    HWmonitor is exactly accurate (it gives you the exact same readings as RivaTuner). It is very useful as it also allows you to monitor other components' temperatures.

    It's nothing surprising really. Those are the temperatures that most of the Sager owners have reported in their 17'' laptops with the 8800GTX.
    M15x owners can be proud of one thing... we have the 8800GTX that runs at higher temperatures! :D
     
  12. maximus_N_

    maximus_N_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Whow, was it a known problem? I've had mine for nearly 3 years now and I never even hit 70°. And yes I have the 6800m. Maybe this was on some models only?

    Ontopic: 17" is hard to compare to a 15", but nevertheless good to hear not everybody's 8800m is going nuclear.
     
  13. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    Maybe Nvidia just gave defective GPUs to Alienware. :p
     
  14. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    Couldn't tell you, but we hit it. In our defense, most of us had low to moderate overclocks on the card which was one of the most overclockable mobile cards that Nvidia ever released. If you aren't oc'ing, you would be able to get a big boost in performance in your card by doing so. Anyway, that's odd that you can't break 70C. Most stock 6800m's can fairly easily reach 80C or low 80's from what I remember. Anway, the gpu itself was only rated for ~100C from what I remember and it's still oc'd in my friends computer so my point is... that these sorts of temps don't necessarily mean an imminent hardware failure because his gpu is still running fine and yes his gaming temps are in the mid to upper 80s while playing WoW.
     
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    Friar_Tuck Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok, here's an update. I moved from the air-conditioned room (which was at 75 farenheit), to a room upstairs where the temp was 85 farenheit. I left the Zalman downstairs, and set my Clevo straight on the desk.

    I ran Crysis for about 2 more hours on high, and left HWMonitor running in the background. Results are below. Bottom line: In the AC (75F), and with the Zalman cooler, max GPU was 71C. Without AC (85F) or the Zalman, max GPU was 78C.

    Fans were set to Auto on both scenarios, BTW.

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    Set it to high and you will get temps in the high 60s low 70s. Also for ati tool, you can still run scan for artifacts even though it asks you for digitally signed kernal driver or something. So try that and see how high your temps go. that stresses out your GPU TO THE MAX
     
  17. Friar_Tuck

    Friar_Tuck Notebook Evangelist

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    How long would be a good test, scanning for artifacts in ATITool?

    EDIT: Ok, I ran the ATITool artifact scanning for 30 minutes. Again, I'm unfamiliar with this tool, so I don't know if that was a sufficient test or not. I'm taking minkang's word for it that this test "stresses out your GPU TO THE MAX" :)

    I stopped it after 30 minutes because at the 15 minute mark, the GPU hit 77C, and began to vascillate between 77C and 76C. It did that until the 30 minute mark, as the picture shows, and so I figured it had reached the max temp that it was going to with the ATITool artifact scan.

    This test was done in a room that was about 78 degrees Farenheit, without a cooler under the laptop (I set it directly on a desk).

    Here's the result:

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    Yep thats good enough temps. Groove's card with ati tool hit 104 degrees.
     
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    Tuck, thanks for all the testing. Amazing results and excellent cooling on that machine of yours. My gpu idle is at 75C right now... close to your max. :) Anyway, good temps.
     
  20. Friar_Tuck

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    Thanks, groove. I'm happy with it. Idle temps are in the mid 40s(C).
     
  21. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    the M57RU heat sink fan on the GPU is larger than some desktop 8800 GT/GTS coolers and louder with the desktop gpus mentioned being the closest thing thermal to the 8800m GTX.. it should be no shock really.

    With low temps like that you should def overclock the beast quite abit. My question is what ALienware is going to do in the future... Clevo is not going to have to modify its cooling in that laptop once it has motevina and Quad/9800m GTX or a ATI 3870 (mabye even 3870x2).... alienwares only upgrade for the m15x may be a cooler 3870 mobile or some thing... and with nvidias latest confession of issues.. along with havoc and diablo3/Blizzard next gen mmo being ATI tuned thats fine with me :) .. be really interesting what ALienware do with the m15x over its life as far as upgrades.. it seems like its at its limit but it surly cant last like this for long.
     
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    Heath... I am really appreciating the change on the "tendency" of your posts. Have you been abducted and replaced by someone else? :)
     
  23. kobe

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    The Sager has a really effective cooling system. The m15x should do better in cooling.