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    do you think a single 4870/gddr5 will outperform 3870 CF?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by rickscafe, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. rickscafe

    rickscafe Notebook Geek

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    hmmmmmmm???
     
  2. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    No.

    why are you looking at this it's white so it's hard to see
     
  3. CooLMinE

    CooLMinE Notebook Deity

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    To be honest it shouldnt be that big difference.

    A single card gets around 8-9k in 3dmark so we can assume that the 4870 will get around 10-11k.

    Depending in the cpu usually the 3870's in crossfire get around 11-13k (not counting quads). So they seem to be pretty close.
     
  4. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    little off topic but i was using matts custom black theme for NBR and i could not figure out what you ment because it showed up the same color....so i switched to opera :D man i felt stupid
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    The Crossfire will win the pointless 3Dmark battle, the 4870 will compete very well in the real benchmarks.
     
  6. rickscafe

    rickscafe Notebook Geek

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    same cpu and same everything else, do you guys think 4870 with t9400 will get 11k 06 3dmark? cuz 3870cf can get that score
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    3dmark 06 is a snythetic bench mark and in terms of real gaming it doesn't matter tweak it for the game not 3dmark06. When they come out i will be able to tell you eaxctly how good they are please be pateint and just know the 4870's will be better ?!?!?!?!


    obviously if a card with a slower clock speed and memory can score that then why in the world would a faster one score lower?

    EDIT thats what i ment to put :D
     
  8. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Come on Mr. Moo. Settle down.

    4870s have already been extensively benchmarked using the W90vp-X1, and has shown some great overclocking ability. It has broken 20K (albeit with a massive CPU OC), 17K and 14K stock with a T9400, with CF 4870s.

    How do you know that it won't get 11K? A 9800M GTX coupled with a C2D can easily reach that with a slight OC, and the 4870s are supposedly better.

    And what do you mean by "3DMark06 is a benchmark"? Were you trying to be smart? Did you mean "3DMark06 is a synthetic benchmark that should not be used as a full guide on a GPU's performance"?
     
  9. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yes sorry plasma i got mad and wasn't thinking... its a synthetic bench mark to test the *saposed capabilitys of a card in gaming"





    lol unno what i ment. the 4870 will obviously get higher then the single 3870 and also maybe the xfire 3870 sinces they are easy to OC(hypothetically here) and over all a much better card

    plasma ur right i was so mad at the time i just put every thing backwards lol
     
  10. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    ^^^^

    My 4870 desktop outperforms or is at a dead heat with 9800M GTX's in SLI. A mobility 4870 with GDDR5 will likely be very, very close to Crossfire 3870's.
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    its also a 1gb version of the 4870 and and there mobile 9800m gtx...the 4870m will be underclocked as well, i am not sure but i think it will be like 80% of the desktop card. dont hold me to it because i cannot remeber where i read it ...

    but the 4870's will be a step up thats what im trying to say... i just want true bech marks against other mobile cards.(not the ddr3 versions)
     
  12. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Hey Jl, have you tried testing your 4870 clocked down to 680mhz core and 700mhz memory? Those are the specs of the Mobility gddr5 reference model from AMD/ATi
     
  13. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    SO basicaly the ATI Mobility HD4870 will be about equivallent to a desktop HD4850 then ?? If so not bad :) God Bless :)
     
  14. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    doubtful, but not impossible.
     
  15. v_c

    v_c Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the mobility 4870 will bench a little lower (in 3DMark06) than 3870CF...but I think gaming performance will be pretty close. And personally I always prefer a single-card solution if possible.
     
  16. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    would you not also need to take into consideration shader models, stream proc units, and other differences?
    i mean to be fair, just to downclock does not constitute an exact match.
     
  17. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    actually, if you compare the specs of the two cards, they are exactly the same except for the clock speeds.
     
  18. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i tried, and kept getting net errors....so i thought i would post anyway.... :D