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    ffxiv bench mark results whats my bottleneck

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by morgonian, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. morgonian

    morgonian Notebook Guru

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    hey all

    so im testing my system out with the bench mark tool for final fantasy XIV and my score is really low

    my system specs are i7 740qm ati 5850 4 gigs of ram and a 320 gig hard drive.

    any idea whats giving me the low results?

    also how do you get your computer to activate turbo mode? I have it enabled in the bios. but when I run the tool it quotes the non turbo mode speed (1.7)

    thanks!
     
  2. NobodyFresh

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    This bench mark is "iffy" at best. I wouldn't go by what that says. I ran it myself and got bad marks. Just go by the official requirements.
     
  3. The Revelator

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    What were your scores?
     
  4. morgonian

    morgonian Notebook Guru

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    for the 1080p mode it was about 1753

    for the 720p mode it was about 3500ish
     
  5. Maxamilus

    Maxamilus Notebook Consultant

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    Looks just fine to me. From what I've been told, the beta runs better than the benchmark shows. And the game will probably be optimized further before release.
     
  6. morgonian

    morgonian Notebook Guru

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    awesome thanks!

    can anyone explain how turbo mode works?
     
  7. xeroxide

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    in a nutshell, if your only stressing a single core, it will suspend the other cores and turbo the single core. the more cores you stress reduces the amount of tubro however. unless you have an extreme cpu (920xm, 940xm) in which case you can stress out all 4 cores with max turbo.
     
  8. morgonian

    morgonian Notebook Guru

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    so its something that happens automatically then?
     
  9. Killiandros

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    I wasn't able to get this to run on my m17x. It crashed when selecting any combination of settings and starting the benchmark.

    This occurred with stock settings and down the track when I tried again after I'd wiped/reinstalled O/S.

    i7 820QM, 5870x2, 4GB RAM, Intel SSD. Have any other m17x users had this issue?
     
  10. Plisken

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    what the, I got 1016 in 1080p mode and 2104 in 720p.

    Is the 5850 that much better then the GTX 260M? I thought it was around the same, maybe slightly better.
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yea alot better
     
  12. rwchui

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    beta testers have confirmed that the benchmark is pretty useless, and people with 'low' score hardware are still able to play the game fairly flawlessly. My desktop 1090 @ 3.6ghz, 4GB of ram and with a 1GB GTS250 only scored 1999 points. Joker Managed ~ the same with a 940XM and Crossfire 5870's :/ (although I couldn't get crossfire to work with the benchmark and 10.6 drivers, so that's probally why it was so low)

    Remember however, the official system requirements are as follows: (and a 2K score on the bench is @ the minimum requirement for the game :/ )
    http://www.incgamers.com/News/23716/final-fantasy-xiv-system-requirements
    Operating System

    Windows® XP SP3

    Windows® Vista 32-bit / 64-bit SP2

    Windows® 7 32-bit / 64-bit

    CPU

    Intel® Core™2 Duo (2.0GHz)

    AMD Athlon™ X2 (2.0GHz)


    RAM

    Windows® XP: 1.5GB or higher

    Windows® Vista / Windows® 7: 2GB or higher

    HDD/SSD Space

    Installation: 15GB or more

    Download: Space on the hard drive where 'My Documents' is located should be 6GB or more

    Graphics Card

    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600 series or higher

    512MB ATI Radeon™ HD 2900 series or higher


    Sound Card

    DirectSound® compatible sound card (DirectX® 9.0c or higher)

    Internet Connection

    Broadband Internet connection or higher

    Screen Resolution

    1280 x 720 or higher; 32-bit or higher

    DirectX®

    DirectX® 9.0c

    Others

    Mouse, Keyboard, Gamepad
     
  14. morgonian

    morgonian Notebook Guru

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    I mainly went with the 5850 because of the fact that it doesnt have the same bottlenecking issues that the 260m has. maybe someone else on the forum can answer the question about which gpu is better?
     
  15. Lozz

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    they're more or less the same, the 5850 is probably 10-15% ish better in the area's it's optimized for. Directx 11, and a die size reduction would be the reason to pick the 5850 over a 260M.


    I'll say it again, that benchmark is utterly useless. I have a 720Qm and a 5870 and only managed 4 (not 40, or 400, 4) more points that that score. A 75mhz core clock increase should do better than that I would think, I even have 8GB of ram, so I'm running in real Dual channel mode as opposed to a-sync, *and* It was running on a OCZVertex 2 SSD. The benchmark doesn't run in crossfire either.
     
  16. battousai10k

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    It would be outragious if the actual game required the graphics horsepower the benchmark is suggesting.
     
  17. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    I would say it's off, but it's not 'outrageously' off.

    The minimum system requirement GPU is that it has 512mb Frame buffer and 320 stream processors, or 64 unified shaders. A 2K score on high with 800 Processors and twice the Vram doesn't sound completely idiotic. What would be idiotic is if Crossfire support in the M17x was not added before the game releases. *That* would be outrageous.
     
  18. mafiaboy01

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    Even my desktop didn't get a very high rating, just under 2000 on high.

    I wouldn't worry to much.
     
  19. bwazy

    bwazy Notebook Consultant

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    The benchmark IS the bottleneck. :rolleyes:
     
  20. The Revelator

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    Sounds pretty good to me. I got about 2,000 (1080p) and 4,000 (720p) with a 920XM and a 5870m, all at stock settings. But it looked great and was butter smooth during the benchmark run.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Lozz

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    yeah.. that's just not right.. a full time max multiplyer 920XM 3.2ghz 4 core processor scoring 70 points more than a i7 720QM that acutally clock scales? If it uses *just* 2 cores (which I doubt) then it's an 800mhz clock speed difference.
     
  22. hitokiri1

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    Finally after however long ago i posted this original Thread. I am able to run the benchmark. :D. Can't wait to try playing the game itself when it comes out. I'm running it on high right now and with ATI Drivers. 10.7 Scored

    High : 1975
     
  23. claxdog

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    these are what the scores mean, [8000 and over] Extremely High Performance
    Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
    [5500–7999] Very High Performance
    Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.
    [4500-5499] High Performance
    Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.
    [3000-4499] Fairly High Performance
    Capable of running the game on default settings. Consider switching to a higher resolution depending on performance.
    [2500-2999] Standard Performance
    Capable of running the game on default settings.
    [2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance
    Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.
    [1500-1999] Low Performance
    Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.
    [Under 1500] Insufficient Performance
    Does not meet specifications for running the game. right from the download site
     
  24. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Try moving the window slightly to the left. I had slight overhang on the right and it would seriously slow down.

    Got 2242 on high using a T6600-2.2 + GTX470@x1 DIY ViDock here.
     
  25. rjm8282

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    Hi all,

    Just ran the benchmark. I got 1917 on 1080. Not bad for a 720qm with 5850 gddr5.
     
  26. battousai10k

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    I'm considering pre-ordering this game, but it would suck if I can't run it on max settings with my current setup. So I think I'll hold off until it is actually released to see if it will even run well on my M15x.

    EDIT: Seeing as the recommended system requirements are so high, I don't think my system can play this on high at all. A GTX 460 and an i7 @ 2.66Ghz????!! And these are desktop components!

    * OS: Windows 7 32-bit/64-bit*
    * CPU: Intel Core i7 2.66GHz or higher
    * RAM: 4GB or more
    * HDD/SDD: Installation: 15GB of free space; Download: 6GB of free space on the drive containing "My Documents"
    * Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 or better with VRAM 768MB or more
    * Sound Card: DirectSound compatible sound card (DirectX 9.0c or higher)
    * Internet Connection: Broadband or better (always-on)
    * Resolution: 1280x720 (32-bit) or higher
    * DirectX: DirectX 9.0c
    * Others: Mouse, Keyboard, Gamepad
    * (On a 64-bit OS, the software will run via WOW64 - Windows 32-bit On Windows 64-bit )
     
  27. cubankid17

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    anybody try running the benchmark with th i7 840qm 5850 and 6gb ram?
    im curious because this is my setup.
    i would have gone with the extreme but i didnt have the extra 600$
     
  28. Breaking Brian

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    Remember guys the benchmark is very very un realiable. I've done around 6 different tests (on high) and my scores ranged from 3000 to 5000.... Its not recommended to base the game on it. Rather watch the Video. If it runs whithout any lag/stuttering your FINE!
     
  29. The Revelator

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    This will give you an idea -- M15x/820QM/5850/High (1920x1080):

    [​IMG]
     
  30. Lozz

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    yeah, assuming the Multi-gpu support is there in the final game, you're going to need CF 5870s to run the game in high mode, and then you're also going to want at *least* an 820, but preferably a 840 or 920/940. It's definitally steep. A 2.66ghz i7 is a 920 btw, which clock steps up to 2.93ghz, as well as having 8MB of l2 cache( but that really doesn't matter as much) so a 720 is below the reccomended requirements.
     
  31. morgonian

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    what about normal mode? would a 720 work for that?
     
  32. Lozz

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    in all honestly, *if* XIV supports multi-gpu systems (i say that cautiously because XI didnt, however XIV is going PC *first* unlike where XI was a PS2 release and then ported) then high settings on a 720 will be fine. Otherwise yes, turning down it just a tad should produce acceptable frame rates in XIV. I would be nice if we get more control over quality settings beyond what is in the Beta however, as it stands afaik you can adjust DOF and AO, and choose between high textures and normal textures. Ironiclly, all the Dual Core processors in the M17x should have no trouble running it in high mode.
     
  33. morgonian

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    awesome, thats great to hear! :)

    rep given :)
     
  34. Syth

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    Just ran the bench.

    On 720 i got 2699
    On 1080 i got 1540.

    Both tests ran really smooth. I already preordered the CE from bestbuy a month back. My guess is that this will still be playable on on default with no problems as this doesn't seem to be much more intensive that then Cataclysm beta, which runs fine with my config in my sig.
     
  35. Futoi

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    I installed the 10.8 driver and the 10.8a profiles. But crossfire still does not work with the ffxiv benchmark? Crossfire works on other apps though?

    I got a m17x with 2 4870s
     
  36. Lozz

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    crossfire is going to work in the release and open beta. That's all that really matters.
     
  37. mirito

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    sup guys i scored a 1974 with xfire enable vbios+ 8.763 when i disable xfire it went up to like 2026 wierd. Think loz did tell me ffxiv benchmark no xfire there. Also about the i7 720qm the min requirement for ffxiv is a 2ghz cpu link here http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/about/game_info so 8 core 1.6ghz i720 qm will do awesome no?
     
  38. Adderal

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    Hey Mirito, you should be fine. We tried the benchmark on a Aurora ALX (with a 5970) and got a really weak score too. The benchmark is trash.

    I wouldn't worry about your processor. The i7s are better than the core 2 it mentions. Also, you'll probably be sitting higher than 1.6ghz while playing because of turbo boost.