here we go again... m15x vs m9750

The M9750 doesn't let out that much heat and is actually pretty small for its' specs and size. The M9750 is a great computer, seriously, why are you returning yours, Travis? BTW, the 7950M GTX will be noticeably faster than the 8600M GT and the 8700M GT. If you've got a bad M9750, you could just exchange it, I'm almost sure you're going to return a ThinkPad...

 

How strange. I have 2 Hard Drives. 2 Video Cards and the Laptop doesn't break 10 lbs. The finish is starting to come off at the rear of the laptop, but I use it daily, and this is caused by constantly removing it, and replacing it in the Laptop over a years time frame. The Fans are not constantly on high, unless I'm playing a rather involved graphical game. The case is solid, and durable, having taken some light to moderate abuse.

I have no regrets. At all. The 9750 is a solid, fantastic laptop. I heartily recommend it.

 

actually, I'd place it in the car. I arrive in school an hour earlier, so I can use that extra time to play or watch with the machine on the room table, or in the car.

it's not like I'll be walking with it. =)

 

I have heard of very very few people that had problems with the 9750. Its really a solid machine. I've had no issues. Well, none thus far.

 

it seems Stone also hates AW, though having 2 AWs himself. =)


makes me wanna read all of Stone's posts...

*actually, too much raw power is unnecessary for me. 8600M GT will do. Think of me with a budget of $1,000, and an extra $600 for Alienware design alone. so I actually saved $600 for AW, the rest is for the parts (which can get me a decent 8600M GT). <-- that's because I do not intend to play all the latest games on my laptop, just some to kill time.

 

If it matters, the screen on the m15x will look a lot better than the one on the M9750. Go for the m15x, and if the m15x with an 8600M GT can't keep up with your gaming hobby you can upgrade to an 8800M GTX or maybe even a 9800M GTX later on. Do you need portability? Where will you use your notebook and how much battery life will you need? I think it'll come down to that. Alienware isn't the only brand that makes notebooks, you know, so maybe their notebooks might not be best for you.

 

maybe yo guys are sleeping already... it's 1 in the afternoo here lol


let's put it this way:

I actually want a decent and capable laptop. at least with a good processor, decent GPU, like the 8600M GT, 2GB RAM and some good stuff to make it run some games and play some movies. I have a budget of $1,000.

with $1,000: I can probably get a not too powerful laptop, but sufficient for what I need and what I can pay for.

-1.6GHz - 1.8GHz Intel C2D processsor
-8600M GT 256MB GDDR3
-1GB - 2GB of RAM (can upgrade to 4 through a third-party retailer)
-80GB or more HDD space at 5400RPM
-a DVD player and rewriter
-Windows Vista Home Basic
-at least 1 year warranty
-and some other stuff to full the $1,000 brim

that's it! I can live with that.


and I guess I'll just get a laptop with that specs...



...oh but wait! I still have $600 more! I'll use it to get an Alienware. and I am more than happy to spend $600 for taxes/shipping + a good and eye-catching AW design!



I hope you get my point. packing too much power is not necessary. I'm trying to balance both perfromance and looks.




BTW, did I mention that people here look at Dell laptops as cheapo laptops? even the XPS line are looked down as some trying-hard gaming notebook. lol

and what they want is the Imprint Finish on every HP notebook. that's what you'll see on every Starbucks coffee shop hre in Philippines.



=)

 

it'll be plugged 80% of the time to an outlet. so battery wouldn't be much of a problem. the laptop will also sit 70% of the time to a flat surface, such as the desks in our classroom, dining table, on my bed, and probably on the car seat. the only time I'd be carrying it around will be when I trandfer the machine from my house to the car, from the car to the classroom, or from the car to the malls. =) it wouldn't be moved so much, so being heavy by a little pounds won't hurt.

 

The $75 upgrade to the 2.4GHz Penryn is way worth it, it'll bottleneck the 8600M GT, which means it'll hold back the notebook's full gaming potential.

Yeah, but you should get the 17" M9750 as a desktop replacement or the 15" m15x as a portable notebook. What are you looking for, a full desktop replacement or a portable notebook (both are portable, but you get my point)?

 

actually, I don't care about size... as long as it's portable (I mean with batteries and no wires). even if it's a 20" notebook... all I want is that I can take it anywhere I go. the weight/size does not really matter. =)

 

Just go for whichever you think looks better then. Based on your needs, we can't really decide which one you'll like better since you'll be more than fine with either one. You couldn't go wrong. The M9750 isn't going to be out for too much longer, so try to decide as soon as you can. For all we know, it could be gone this week.

 

I just want you guys to know that I am not dreaming of 8800GTX and some Extreme mobile Core 2 Duos. I am happy with even 8600M GT, and since I have the extra money, I would go for style than go for more performance.


it's really incredible how I can get m9750 with dual 7950GTXs for less than $1,600 before taxes and shipping fees. now that's a great deal and a good combination of beauty and brains, class and muscle!

 

thanks for that mate... like I said, I can get either m15x or m9750 as both will be sufficient for my needs. =)

 

Travis, since you are switching to Lenovo/IBM, i would like to recommend you the computer IBM BlueGene/L system, it will certainly satisfy your needs for a very reasonable price

 

sure you are not gonna consider the clevo m860tu?

 

they don't have a website right? I may look at it, but 80% sure bout AW.

 

wnet to Clevo website, but there is no m860tu...

 

Well..Travis. The thing is you got a bad computer to start with, so I understand your frustration and trying to stop him from getting the m9750. But, there are tons of owners out there who absolutely love their m9750 right now.

 

maybe it was bad luck... how come you never returned it and got a replacement? it seems to me that you really liked AW, so why dump it?

if I get the same problem, i might as well get a replacement of the same model. =)



yeah, we're both after average performance and style.

 

I've seen it too... people in this thread are all positive about AW m9750. don't know why they were not in your's a couple of months ago.


makes me wonder. maybe because of global warming?

 

Travis never even gave Alienware a chance to try to fix his m9750. Even AW-Steve posted in this forum, wanting to give him a hand.

 

I am wondering too...

do you think the moderators are editing their posts and turning them upside down? lol




but nevertheless, I'd still get any from Alienware. I asked you guys just to have some ideas and which to choose.

*but really, is it just me or is global warming starting to affect us in a large scale?

 

haha, now you see...

When are you coming here? Hopefully it's still for sale.

 

well, I really had $600 to spend on the looks, and that's fine by me. a lot has been saying that the Gateway FX lappies with 8800M GTS will be a better buy, but that's for those who want to squeeze every performance gain possible into a $1,600 budget limit. for me, I've saved the $600 for the looks ALONE. I am actually getting a $1,000-worth-of-performance laptop, and I am happy. I really just want an AW.


@dhoang417

we are leaving 3 weeks from now, April 22nd. probably be there at April 23 or 24. by that time, I'd borrow my auntie's lappy so I can order and visit the threads here.

 

@Travis

maybe you were just so frustrated, after praising AW and then having the machine end up broken (or disfunctional, whatever). but I know what I'm getting (sort of), and even if I am not satisfied, I know that's what i wanted. I am not expecting much from it knowing that the extra $$$ I spent on was put to design and not in the performance department.


I hope AW wins your trust back again, sooner or later. =)

 

I'm glad that you decided to stick with the m9750. Hope you enjoy your stay here in America. Well, take care, I gonna go do some reading homework. see ya later man.

 

I purchased two M9750's from AW and have had them both for about 30 days now. I ordered one for myself with SLI 7950 gtx and one with SLI 8700m for my wife. Both laptops have excellent fit and finish. They are both cool and quiet during normal use and are only slightly louder when the fans kick in during gaming. With the exception of some driver issues which were easily resolved they have both been trouble free. I would heartily recommend the M9750 for your needs.

That being said, I would take what Travis says with a grain of salt.

 

I know there are a lot of better choices... the guys here gave me a list of alternatives.


come on, the marketing manager of Alienware is not that stupid and dumb to put their product $1,000 more expensive than what it should be. everyone says that AW is for those losers who want style before performance, and I am one of them. I only have $1,000 for a laptop, and I am pretty sure that for that price, you'd be able to give me specs similar to m9750 or the m15x. and guess what, I have the extra $600 (because I am a loser lol) to spend for the alien head, and I am not bothered. in fact, I am happy to spend $600 on taxes and the badge "Alienware" lol.

and I can tell dad that we actually paid extra $600 on nothing except for the logo and some labels that read "AW" and he'll understand as long as it meets my demands.


at $1,000, I am solved and happy. but thinking of spending the extra $$$ I have, I have no intentions of getting better components but to just grab an Alienware.

 

@dhoang417

make sure you do your homework =)


@frag

the least I wanna do is make Travis the enemy of every AW owner. I mean he's nice, and just concerned (and speaking from experience). maybe he was just so disappointed and/or frustrated, and we should all understand. (basically, that might be his horror story. =) I can't go into details as I have no idea regarding that matter.


cheers

 

Point taken.

 

thanks

I guess time for me to sleep.



reading the threads here became my homework.
see yah tomorrow.

 

I'm not quite sure why Travis says some of the things he does.

The m9750 weighs less than 10lbs, by itself. Mine, with SLI, and dual Hard Drives is 9lbs, 4oz. The Power Brick, which is Big! (Most powerhouse laptops have massive bricks) is 1lb, 11oz.

It seems that he was having some driver issues, freaked out, and sent it back without letting Alienware fix it. Again, I've had NO issues with my 9750, and I've had it for almost a year! I bought it when it first came out. The only issues I have are, yes, driver related, and Vista Related. I've only had one game constantly crash on me, but thats the game. Not the machine.

In fact, Travis is one of the very very few people who hates it. The chassis is a very solid and slim design. One of the lightest, and smallest 17" powerhouses on the market!

Does it lack battery life? Sure. About an hour. I use it at outlets most of the time, But I'm happy knowing that it will work without one. Are the newer laptops better? Of course! Computer technology changes practically on a monthly basis!

Do I expect my laptop to break down? Heck yeah! Its a powerful machine. I have the three year warranty, and I fully expect Alienware to fix it when it breaks.

Are there other laptops and machines? Sure. But I chose this one for the combination of size, power and weight. It also had a proven track record with the 9700.

The 9750 is a winning laptop.

 

@Travis

I doubt you have even returned it yet but if you say so. Somehow I think mommy and daddy aren't going to be to happy with the 15% restocking fee.
You calling someone else a fanboy is the pot calling the kettle black. You have nothing left to contribute here so why not just go troll the lenovo forum and be done with it.

 

Then you should have ASKED. 17" Laptops are BIG. My first one, (A Clevo) weighed over 12lbs! That Alienware managed to locate a Chassis as slim, and low weight as it is is impressive.

It seems like you have a 15" Laptop to make it more portable, and accessible. But even then, don't place it on your lap. Most laptops these days have intake or exhaust fans on the bottom. Laptop does not mean 'Place on your lap'. Its more alone the lines of 'notebook' computer. Its just a type of Chassis that is used. Smaller, and more portable than a desktop.

 

@Travis - I own the M9750. In my opinion it is a portable laptop in many ways. Sure it is big, but I am able to take it to school a lot even though it can be sort of a nuisance. In fact, when I was in UT I played Prey on 1920x1200 with all the settings maxed out and it ran flawless which I was very happy about.

I beleive I tried to talk you out of the M9750 on many occasions, stating that you should have gotten a Dell M1530 or other laptops of that caliber but you just shut me out. I'm not going to get into a large argument, as this is the only post I am going to post. All I am trying to say is that a lot of people here tried to talk you out of your purchase, including me. I am not going to put you down or anything, I am just merely stating that I tried to talk you out of it, but your constant love for AW made you completely ignore my comments.

In terms of size, I believe if you were not 13 years old it wouldn't have been as much as a problem. I am about 17 and I'm pretty big in terms of height and I have no problem lugging it around with me. Perhaps since your are 13 you are probably still under 5 ft which means that it could have been a little big.

 

Actually I own two M9750's. You obviously don't read everything in the thread or in other threads.

 

Technically, the m15x is also called a notebook and it's meant to be placed on a flat surface or a desk. My m5550 too. But, every now and then I would use it on my lap, and try not to cover up the fan. I can see from the last picture above that the reviewer didn't cover up the fan vent with his legs.

 

Yeah... this is "notebook" reviews Not laptop reviews!

 

@Travis - Those last 2 notebooks are a Dell M1730 + a 20" notebook. Both of those notebooks are much less portable than the M9750. You can use the M9750 on your lap, I do from time to time. Let me tell you those 2 notebooks pictured are much less portable.

 

Well I was in the middle of reporting this but I guess Chaz got another message ahead of me. Just for the record, I do not know why some of my posts were deleted, I made SURE that every post I posted has a clear, concise argument and did not have a negative attitude to it at all. Every post I made here wasn't immature at all, but it is up to the mod to decide.

@OP - I would go for the M15x. You get a faster notebook in a smaller package, enough said. The M9750 is great but mine is actually getting loose on the bottom, I'll take a video later.

 

My m9750 was loose on the bottom when I got it. I would also agree with stone on his choice of getting the Alienware Area-51 M9750. It provides a mix of speed, battery life, and longevity in a small and efficient price.

 

Nope it is an older desktop. If you look at the end you will see the word "credited". My desktops warranty was running out and I wanted to get some minor things repaired so I brought it into bestbuy to have it fixed under their warranty (haha yea...). They ended up dropping the computer and had it for the whole entire summer and more (around 8 months). They ended up giving me the HP that you see in my sig to replace it.

 

I had to do a large clean-up in this thread because of some not-so-nice or irrelevant posts. Please keep it clean and on-topic from this point forward, thanks.

Also, please use the "edit" button instead of making multiple posts.

 

Chaz I deleted all of my posts to make it easier for you

 

Yes I did see that, thank you for lending a hand.

 

Hey Chaz, do you have any opinions regarding the m9750?

 

Yes, in the review I wrote:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3840
Definitely a great machine.

It's growing a little long in the tooth considering it is using an outdated platform and will soon be several generations behind though . . .

 

That is a great review. Every single thing about it is on there.

 

Nice review...It's the sad truth about laptops though. Once you buy it, it will be what you will be keeping for a while. And you can't upgrade it like a desktop.

 

there's been a lot happening here while I was asleep. lol


I just read Chaz's review weeks before, and then I read them again now. =) I really hope it still is available by then.

well anyway, back to regular programming

edit: I just browsed some retailers here, and Team Elite Notebook Memory is just approximately $50 with tax, and thats the 2GB DDR2-667. really cheap here. I wonder why.

Btw, the 1GB DDR2-667 is priced at Php980, or $30 with tax.