how much faster is say a sli 260 against 1 280 ???

how much faster is say a sli 260 against 1 280 ???

about 10 to 20 percent ???

more ???

less ???

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html

 

around 10-15% apparently. So overall not worth it as you can overclock the 260 to the 280 stock. Though uf you overclock a 280 it might make ot more worth while. Dont know for sure as i dont have a m17x...yet

 

sli 260 vs a single 280. it will crush it. sli/crossfire is faster then any single card.

 

Where are the resources to back this because it is not necessarily true.

From the overclocking view, a nicely overclocked 280m will be equal to stock 260m's in sli. Plus the 280m has 128 unified shaders as the 260m has around 112.

From a non overclocking perspective, SLI is not faster than ANY single card. I'll even use the first notebook sli gpus as an example. 2 go7900gs cards are the same performance as a single go7950gtx card. Another example is 2 8700m gt cards in sli coming up less performance wise than a single 8800m gtx.

Sli only gives you about a 25%-40% performance boost and that is if the game fully utilizes sli.

I can't even get into details with the crossfire setups as they are worse than sli.

 

You are far better off game wise with dual 260M's than a single 280M as the performance increase is very significant, and to the poster above me NO, a single "nicely OC'ed" 280M will not be even close to dual stock 260M's in SLI, there is, and I stress this, "maybe" a 10-15% performance increase AT BEST from a single 280M over a single 260M, and you could overclock a single 260M to perform on par with a stock 280M.

But for games hands down dual stock 260M's will vastly out perform a single 280M especially at higher resolutions OC'ed or not. Also important to know is that with a lot of older games and the few newer games that DO NOT support SLI you CAN create a custom SLI profile for them in the NV control panel in less than a minute to make a non SLI game use SLI. Although even with SLI enabled there are "a few" games that wont see much benefit out of it because a single card can run those games efficiently, in which case you could then use the second card for SLI AA using the second card solely for anti aliasing purposes.

Either way, the benefits of SLI make it a worth while solution for anyone that puts gaming as a top priority.

 

wait... what.....
ok let me say it in in more detail then....
when i say sli/crossfire is better then any single gpu setup meaning that they are in the same class. meaning that they have a

a 3870 crossfired STOCKED will smoke a 9800m gtx stocked, and will eat a 280m stocked. also super overclocked it will only be 10 percent lower then a 3870 crossfire.
(this test was done by me and anothergeek with his sager and 280m(i forgot the rest of his setup) and my ocz whitebook with a [email protected], 3870 crossfired, 4gb of ram @1333fsb, etc... i have links for this...... )


also a of course a 8700m gt sli will lose to a 8800m gtx. becuase of the 256 bit bus(8800m gtx) vs the 128 bit bus(8700m gt). at higher resolutions,(mainly over 1440*900) you will see a big dip in performance. so to compare those cards isn't a great comparsion.(i don't have links for this but since you know about gpu's then you should already know this.)



the 9800m gts sli will also beat a 9800m gtx. (this test was done in the toshiba qosmio onwers lounge as there setups where the 9800m gts sli vs the 9800m gtx single in comparsion. i also have a clevo with a 9800m gtx so i can talk about this card...... clocked at the same speed,(i didn't do this) it would have the same exact results as the 260m)

a 260m single card godly overclocked got 6200 in vantage and the 280m single got 6400 in vantage(gpu scores of course).....also sli 260 stocked gets low to mid 9000 in gpu score. (this test was done by the moo and mandrake, where the moo has a m17x and a single 260m in his notebook and the mandrake has a 280m sli but ran it with sli disabled... i don't remember the forum member that had the 260m sli setup but you can look in the m17x benchmark thread if you would like to find out)


a 9800m gtx single will get 4400 in vantage stocked(gpu score) the highest is 5800 overclocked and that was done by johnksss. he also had 9800m gtx in sli with a record of 11,3?? in vantage with is simlar to the 260m sli.(note the 260m sli will get a higher overclock because it uses better memory and will break 1000 where as the 9800m gtx limits is 970. (comfirmed by johnksss and comfirmed by me)) the stock results of the 9800m gtx is 8500 in vantage and the was done by angel voices....

now if the record for a single 280m is 6400 and the a stocked 9800m gtx sli is 8500......(need i have to say more... and this is not including the low clocks of the 9800m gtx (500/1250/800 compared to the 260m))

also in what way can you compare a 280m overclocked to a 260m sli when the only difference in the shaders, unless the game doesn't use sli at all. THERE IS NO WAY THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

crossfire setups are better then sli. i have had only 2-3 games that didn't use sli in my whitebook. for my sager i didn't install my second card so i can't talk about sli to much. crossfire almost double in most of my runs that i did with it. if you want links i can gladly show you this as well.

i would also like to see where you got your resources as well?

 

The reason for this was that a single 8700M GT used a measly 128bit memory bus with only 32 stream processors, pretty weak, a single 8800M GTX had a 256bit memory bus with 96 stream processors, so of course it was going to out perform dual 8700M GT's in SLI.

SLI with identical or close to identical cards will yield a very significant performance increase, and in the case of the 260M and 280M they both use a 256bit memory bus and have 112 and 128 stream processors respectively with a minor difference in clock speed.

The comparison is a whole different animal from the dual 8700M GT's vs single 8800M GTX comparison, as we are comparing 2 cards that are very closely related, like same memory bus, and in fact they are the same chip, the 260M's just have 16 sp's laser cut and run at slightly slower clock speeds.

 

Lol. i just said that. but it wasn't soooo nice worded as yours.

 

rotfl @ this thread

why do people think the 260's suck ?

when they are the exact same card as the 280's

expect huge boost

 

i never said that they sucked.

 

I think he was referring to Munchkin-Man's lack of GPU/SLI education lol

 

i never said you did .... i wasrefering to the guy that thinks the 280

which record in VANTAGE by mandrake is 6400 (x9100 @ 3.4 the she bang)

and the 260 in VANTAGE by me is 6300.....(p8600 @ only 3.2)

i only spent 10 runs doing so (because i am not a true bencher)....... all i did was overclock my cards as far as they would go. I even went way out the ratio....

So tell me how much do you think 2x 260's in SLI will far against a single 280m GTX

 

I never said that you said he said about what munchkin-man said about what they said... yeah, that's what she said.

 

As said above SLI 260Ms will destroy a single 280M...provided the game being played supports SLI.

One 280M is only 10%-15% faster than one 260M. Putting two cards in SLI will up the performance by up to 90% depending on game compatibility, although I don't actually know of any game that will up it that much. Usually it's closer to 30%-50%.

In older games that don't support SLI there is little if any bonus from it meaning the 280M WOULD be faster, but older games would be eaten up whole by a single 260M anyway.

 

Lol. i wonder if i can take a class in it

oh sorry. i would edit my post but you it's in the same thread..... i thought you got 6100 on vantage gpu score. my bad forgeting.

i won't next time

 

I cant figure out where people are getting this info that a Single 280 is even remotely close to SLI 260s ? do they just make this stuff up for arguments sake ?.

 

i don't even know why it's even brought up? they only sell them in sli anyway.

are you going to buy a 280m sli and then sell one card because it's "slower then a 260m sli"??? how would that work?

edit: i just completely confused myself. lol.

 

no Don i got my cpu up a little n pushed my clocks and put a fan right UNDER it

 

I can tell you all right now, twin GTX 260M's will outrun my GTX 280M.

 

Are you sure Soviet ??? According to a couple people in this thread they would like to have a word with you and your machine .

 

Is it me or does it say sli/crossfire is faster than ANY single card.....
I simply corrected this statement, I obviously know the architectural differences of each card.

O yea soviet, what laptop do you OWN again?

 

did you read the post i said after?

 

no he is right 2> 1 ( i only compare the same cards because that makes sense)

 

Of course but that was after so all the assault coming onto me is worthless because I addressed a false quote from you that's all.

 

They are comparing 2 260m gpus to one 280m. Not exactly the same card. And he did say ANY. He did not say an sli setup is greater than using one of the same cards....

 

wrong plus wrong doesn't equal right

you were wrong simple as that

just because he had a error in posting doesn't mean he meant it .....


Don would probably smoke u in a GPU quiz a thon

 

gez

the 260 is the same physical PCB as the 280 hell i flashed my 260 to a 280 vbios

all it has is 12 less SP....

98% the exact same is good enough for me


and as far as his wording .... well he still smokes you

we all know SLI on a laptop will still fail to a single desktop card whoohooo for you knowing that

 

Soviet has a Sager/Clevo 5797 .

 

"wrong plus wrong doesn't equal right

you were wrong simple as that

just because he had a error in posting doesn't mean he meant it .....


Don would probably smoke u in a GPU quiz a thon"

Don't know who Don is and you know what he would rofl because I don't spend my nights reading up on gpus. I know enough lmao. You sound like an immature highschool guido " YO BRO IMA GET MY BOYS AND THEY GONNA F YOU UP BRO" lmfao

And my response to him was just a neutral response, you all took it the wrong way, not my fault.

 

sorry for the triple post

but my Xfire rendered batter then SLI

 

you didn't only say that otherwise it would of been squashed already. and that's is why i said let me explain alittle more

you also said that sli doesn't scale well, crossfire is worse, and an overclocked 280m is the same as the 260m sli stocked. you also asked for proof for what i said, so i also provided you with info for everything thing else i posted.

 

ROTFLMAO SOOOO hard



yea because im whipping out my e -peen here boy

btw there is a qoute button

 

munchkin-man. I'm a munchkin and you're making me feel really tall by trying to defend yourself in this thread.

 

Ok now you're just being a poor sport, you were wrong, lesson learned, don't get immature, just get over it.. I'm sure this isn't the first time you've been wrong about something and I know it wont be the last.

 

My machine doesn't speak Alien.

I own the M17x.

Indeed.

 

well i'm don. and i do read up on gpu's, cpu's, etc because it's fun and many people like myself and moo enjoy it. we like seeing whats it's capable of and what you can do with it.

it doesn't seem you know enough. if you did then you would know how sli/crossfire scales.

about the high school comment, that's not funny. it's not needed also. were do you see me post anything like that anyways???

 

you really sound like the guy on the colber report

 

he was referring to me saying you would smoke him a in a GPU quiz

i guess thats nerd for beat up

 

Lol. i'm using my Palm Pre like a brass knuckle....

 

Ah, another noob put in his place. Nothing is better than witnessing someone else get told. Now lets get back on topic where we left off on post #4.

 

That's what I compared to a high school BRO and it is funny since I was in high school 2 years ago.

I read up on cpus, gpus, hdds, etc myself also, just not to an extent. I read up on what I need to know for my own sake, not on parts that I won't be using.

Don you made a fault and corrected, I didn't say anything against it rofl it's the rest of the immature type happy dudes that attacked for no reason.

Remember it is a forum so yea you think I don't know anything but in real life who are you really? I've redone 2 wrx's and completely erased and mapped the ecus myself. I've had my share of desktops that I built and pleeeenty of laptops so say whatever but chances are most of you are equal to my knowledge of comp tech.

 

we didn't got that off topic

 

So carry on lol watch everyone is going to have to put a word in now.

 

WORD

 

Word. 10char

 

Point made.

 

im not wearing underwear

 

TBH

i work @ subway trying to keep money coming in while i live with my grandparents

i also am attending college with 15 hours a week ( ICT major)

while fitting in my nightly reading of CPU digest and GPU's Anonymous

 

msparrow, are you on aim and nbr and mad a mistake on what your talking about?