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    m15x user review by shima

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by shima, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    UPDATE 03/26/2008: 2 month long-term impressions
    UPDATE 03/07/2008: Penryn installed! Updated 3DM06 score.

    What was supposed to have been just a picture thread has turned into a full-blown review.

    1. Overview and Introduction:

    I already have 2 laptops, the Dell E1505 and E1705. Why do I need another? Well, the E1505 was a good travelling laptop, but I really couldn’t game on the 128mb Mobility Radeon. The E1705 with 7950GTX upgrade was a decent gamer, but it was starting to show its age. Plus, the weight of the laptop + 130w power brick was starting to “weigh” on me. I hated having to tow a huge backpack with the 17” laptop whenever I went on international business trips, and the fact that I couldn’t use it on planes because the battery lasted, oh about an hour and a half, not to mention it was too huge for Economy Plus on United. Enter the Alienware Area-51 m15x and m17x. I followed their progress from its introduction in November to the m15x release in late January. I planned my purchase thoroughly, having come across a fellow in my industry that was selling a $3200 AW gift card, which I bought at a discount. I was originally planning on waiting for the m17x to come out as well as the black case versions (I loved the black design)….alas, patience is never one of my virtues, so I splurged on the m15x.

    Area-51® m15x

    Display: 15.4" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p) with Clearview Technology
    System Lighting: Alienware® AlienFX® System Lighting - White
    Video/Graphics Card: 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800M GTX
    Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz (4MB Cache 800MHz FSB)
    Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz – 2 x 1024MB
    Turbo Cache Memory: Intel® Turbo Memory (1GB) – Accelerate Data Transfer Speed
    Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium
    System Drive: 200GB 7200RPM (16MB Cache)
    Optical Drives : 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
    Wireless: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card
    Sound Card : Internal High-Definition Audio with surround sound
    Keyboard Options: AlienFX® Illuminated Keyboard
    Warranty: 2-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
    Power: Additional Battery – 6-cell Smart Bay Battery
    Power: Additional AC Adapter – 120 Watt Auto-switch AC Adapter

    The m15x is a 15.4” gaming laptop, much hyped as the first 15.4” with the Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU and Nvidia 8800M GTX. The former wasn’t really sensible to me as far as cost vs performance, but the latter was, as I game on occasion.


    2. Reasons for Buying:

    8800M GTX in a 15.4" form factor. I was looking at a variety of laptops, ranging from the Sager 17” models with the GTX, the Dell M1730 with the eventual GTX, among others. However, the size of the m15x coupled with the Smartbay swappable interface was what really made me zero in on the new Alienware. Getting another 17” felt kind of redundant, and I needed something smaller and lighter than my E1705. Plus, I loved the sleek Ripley design. I didn’t care much for the bling factor as I did for the potential versatility.


    3. Where and How Purchased:

    www.alienware.com the only authorized place you can buy this. I placed the order on January 28th and started the Phase Game™. To my amazement, the laptop shipped on February 2nd, a whopping 4 days after ordering! And this was after 2 days of billing issues due to my use of a gift card authorized for someone else! While I was happy, I was a bit concerned that the Alienware 200-point inspection was trimmed to 2-points. My concerns were unwarranted.


    4. Build & Design:

    Build quality seems excellent, the body of the laptop has a glossy silver paint finish all around, the hinge is sturdy albeit slightly wobbly when opened.

    Build Quality UPDATE 03/07: Overall it's above average, but there are some squeaky/creaking areas around the LCD, especially when you open/close the lid - you'll hear it. It doesn't bother me too much. Screen wobble hasn't bothered me or gotten worse since a month ago, either. I feel things could be tighter all around, but it's not a cause of concern for me.

    Some pictures of the giddy unboxing:
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    Black colored protective sleeve (flash made it look gray):
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    Strange overlay that outlines all the ports and such:
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    AC Adapter size compared to a standard tissue box & Dell 130w AC adapter:
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    Size comparison vs E1705 17.1" laptop (slightly smaller than the 17", slightly thinner):
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    Size comparison vs E1505 15.4" laptop (slightly bigger, slightly thicker):
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    Size comparison vs 16.9oz bottle of water:
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    m15x on Zalman NC-1000 cooler:
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    Smartbay battery on left, optical drive on right:
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    5. Screen:

    My m15x was shipped with the 15.4” 1440 x 900 LG LPLDF00. This panel was one of the most highly sought after by XPS M1530 owners/buyers (for 1440 x 900 resolutions), as this was considered the best out of the 2 or 3 LCD manufs being used. It is very bright and its colors vibrant. Very slight light leakage at the very bottom of the screen, but it won’t bother anyone. My Dell E1705 has the LG screen as well, and that was considered the best out of the 1920 x 1200 LCD options at the time. There were no dead pixels when I ran the test. It has a glossy “Clearview” screen.
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    6. Speakers:

    This seems to be a point of contention. Some are satisfied, others aren’t. I think the speakers are more than adequate, and sound better than the speakers w/"subwoofer" on my E1705. Great clarity, volume level may be low according to other users, but it's fine for me.


    7. Processor and Performance:

    Out of all the choices (only 3 available at the time I purchased), I went for the lowest priced Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4ghz, 4mb cache. I couldn’t justify spending another $250 on the 2.6ghz T7800, and I really couldn’t justify spending another $650 for the Extreme CPU for my needs. I consider myself a casual gamer, and don’t use 3D rendering software or anything hardcore like that. Had I the choice, I think I would have gone for the 2.2ghz T7500 CPU. Sorry, I don’t have any CPU benchmarking software, but I’m sure there’s plenty of benchmarks on the web for this particular CPU.
    For my use, the overall performance of the m15x is great. My E1705 was fast running WinXP with an older T2500 2.0 Core Duo, 2GB of 667mhz memory, 160GB 7200rpm hard drive and the 7950 Go GTX. The m15x feels faster, even loading Vista with only 2GB of memory (will upgrade to 3GB when it arrives). Gaming performance is incredible, getting framerates my E1705 couldn’t touch (especially in Neverwinter Nights 2).

    UPDATE: About a week or two after purchasing this m15x, the Penryn line of CPUs were added to the lineup. I emailed Alienware Tech Support about a CPU upgrade, and had them send the CPU to me as well as a technician to install it. Overall the process was easier than I expected. In fact I didn't expect that this upgrade was even possible yet.
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    8. Benchmarks:

    Normally the first thing I do upon receiving a new computer is to reinstall the OS (see Dell). However, as the m15x didn’t come with much bloatware, I decided to leave the OS as-is.
    I haven't installed many games or benchmarking programs on it yet, but here's the benchmark info straight from AW on this computer:

    Burn-In/Benchmarks

    Doom 3
    Doom 3: 135.8 fps
    3DMark 2006
    Customer Information:
    3DMark Score: 9,835.00 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score: 4,607.00
    HDR/SM3.0 Score: 4,664.00
    CPU Score: 2,118.00
    Game Score: 0.00 Points
    SM2.0 Graphics Tests
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon: 37.91 FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest: 38.87 FPS
    CPU Tests
    CPU1 - Red Valley: 0.67 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley: 1.08 FPS
    HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight: 44.66 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze: 48.61 FPS

    *According to AW, they run these burn-in tests at native resolution. In my case, 1440 x 900. My own 3dMark06 score made me doubt the validity of the “native resolution” bit.

    My own 3DMark06 at 1280 x 720 (default, free version): 9701
    Not too shabby, I’ll run this again after my 2GB stick comes in and I do some more optimizations (such as disabling Aero) and defrag. By comparison, my 7950Go GTX’d Dell scored 5100-ish 3dMark06.

    UPDATE: 3DMark06 at 1280 x 720 with Penryn: 10056
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    In-game benchmarks using Fraps:

    World of Warcraft, well this isn't much of a benchmark because just about any computer can run this game.
    Avg: 54.539 - Min: 40 - Max: 61

    Neverwinter Nights 2, all settings maxed / Bloom on / no AA / 1440 x 900 resolution
    In a heavy area with alot of action, where my E1705 w/7950 Go GTX would drop framerates severely:
    Avg: 60.738 - Min: 22 - Max: 84

    UPDATE 02/18: Crysis, with latest patch in DX10 mode

    Crysis, 1440 x 900, settings all on High / no AA
    Frames: 1862 - Time: 101052ms - Avg: 18.426 - Min: 10 - Max: 32
    This game also made my GPU run hot, reached up to 85 deg C.

    Crysis, 1024 x 760, settings all on High / no AA
    Frames: 1969 - Time: 69636ms - Avg: 28.276 - Min: 19 - Max: 50


    9. Heat and Noise:

    Under load (gaming), the right side of the keyboard gets a little warm as the graphics card is located just under that. The bottom of the laptop gets slightly warm, but not scorching hot like my Dell. As all other laptops, when the fans kick in full blast, they are audible. Not nearly as loud as my E1705 gets, however. When idle, the system is very quiet.
    Under a 3 hour gaming session with NWN2, Everest showed GPU temps reaching upwards of 86 deg C in a large outdoor area with a lot of buildings, scripts and moving people. This was alarming, but the bottom of the laptop never got close to scorching hot. Keep in mind NWN2 for some reason makes GPUs run really hot. Same was the case in this game for my E1705, where temps reached 90+ C. When playing WoW, GPU temps were stable in the mid 60’s.

    Heat & Noise UPDATE 03/07: In a month's use, I haven't seen GPU temps exceed the 86 deg C I saw initially, which is encouraging.


    10. Keyboard and Touchpad:

    The keyboard looks great, especially while lit, with no keyboard flex to note of.
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    However, I have a minor gripe with this keyboard, though it may rectify itself as I “break it in”. Keyboard response feels a bit sluggish, probably due to the keyboard being pretty stiff. I’m used to light touch keyboards, where soft inputs will produce letters. You kind of need to press a little more firmly to type properly. I had difficulty inputting the same letter twice in a row. The Backspace response feels sluggish to me as well, as pressing and holding to rapidly delete has a slightly longer delay than I’m used to. It may very well be that I’m just not used to this keyboard yet, as I mainly use a G15 Logitech connected to the m15x.
    The touchpad was frustrating. As the touchpad area is of the same finish as the rest of the laptop (glossy), touchpad input was weird. I felt like I was pulling my skin trying to drag the touchpad around with my finger. I opted to stick the AW-provided touchpad overlay sticker on it, and the results were much better. Felt like a normal laptop touchpad again. The touchpad clicker was another frustrating juggernaut. One long button, with two inputs on the left and right sides, positioned what felt like a see-saw. It took a little more effort to click than I was used to. Again, this is probably all a matter of getting used to it. I use external mice exclusively anyhow, so this wasn’t such a big deal to me.
    The power button, volume control UP/DOWN, and 4 touch shortcut controls are seamlessly a part of the case, and are all touch-sensitive. There are no buttons to “press” (even the power button). I found the touch sensitive controls to be very convenient, as they control the Bluetooth ON/OFF, WiFi ON/OFF, Command Center, and Stealth Mode ON/OFF. Just place your finger on their respective logos and hold it there for a little less than a second. The volume dial is a little frustrating, because the volume UP/DOWN seems a bit quirky. You drag your finger towards the + sign, but volume ends up going down instead? I end up using the volume control on the OS instead. Overall, I like this feature, and Alienware did a good job of integrating the most common items you’d turn ON/OFF. They just need to work on the volume control.
    The touch controls seem to be inoperable after the system goes into and comes out of Sleep mode. However, the controls work after Hibernate. Appropriately, I’ve set all my Power Options to go into Hibernate instead of Sleep.


    11. Input and Output Ports:

    The m15x kind of reminds me of a Macbook, in that there are no ports in the back of the laptop. The left side of the laptop has the Smartbay optical drive (with no manual eject button, Fn + F8 for that), headphone and mic inputs, 2 USB ports, a gigabit Ethernet port, and the AC plug. The right side houses the Express Card slot, flash card reader, HDMI out, USB port, and Firewire port.
    I kind of wish there was one more USB port, but that’s just because I’m a USB junkie (and my E1705 had a whopping 6 USB ports)


    12. Wireless:

    My m15x had the Intel 4965 Wireless B/G/Draft-N card. My Dell had the 3965 version (up to G only). The 3965 had pretty horrible range, whereas the 4965 has excellent range, even in G. I can acquire signals 200-250 feet away through 3 or 4 walls. This is probably due to the extra antenna (3) vs the Dell’s 2.


    13. Battery:

    This is where the m15x really shines. The m15x has a myriad of battery life increasing features: Smartbay extra battery, Stealth Mode and BinaryGFX mode.

    CORRECTED 8800M GTX Normal vs Stealth Mode (Notice the clock speed difference)
    *Everest version 4.20.1299 beta will show correct clock speeds. Previous versions were showing incorrect (higher) speeds.

    Normal:
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    In Stealth Mode:
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    In short, Stealth Mode underclocks the GPU Core & Shader clocks to boost battery life. Battery life test results under Stealth Mode with dual batteries (incl Smartbay): 4 hours, give or take 5 mins. Activating BinaryGFX mode gives you more battery life, but Stealth Mode does not require a reboot, whereas BinaryGFX does.

    BinaryGFX:

    Enabled by hitting FN + F7 (U/D GFX), the system will prompt a reboot.
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    Battery life: I didn't have time to do an actual test, but here's an estimate with dual batteries (Smartbay):

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    5 hours!


    14. Operating System and Software:

    Vista. Meh.
    The m15x came installed with minimal software/bloatware. It came installed with the Alienware Command Center, which controls AlienFX (for lights) and AlienFusion (power settings). The Command Center runs in the OS background, taking up 3 processes. The only other programs that Alienware pre-installed were Nero 7 Essentials and Cyberlink’s PowerDVD and YouCam (for the integrated webcam). That seems to be it. No AOL, no McAfee, no Norton, etc.


    15. Customer Support:

    I found customer support to be pretty helpful, they even called me to inform me that my Smartbay battery was backordered, and told me when my system would ship, which actually happened the way the representative said. Only issue was that I was missing an extra AC Adapter and Hat, but that was backordered and should ship “soon”. Overall, no problems.

    Customer Support UPDATE 03/07: I have dealt with AW's Roswell Tech Support division, and they authorized my CPU upgrade. The young lady that helped me out was very friendly and a pleasure to deal with; but the important thing was she got the result I was looking for. So a rare +1 for AW support.


    Conclusion:

    Hands down the best laptop I have ever owned. And it’s not about the flashy lights and Alienware logo. It's the sheer flexibility of this machine. Not only is it blazing fast, but it has the option of holding its own battery-wise against the 14" and below ultraportables with the Smartbay battery option. I do alot of business travelling, with long 10 hour flights. I can now burn 5 hours of the boring flights on my computer.
    When you can combine awesome 8800M GTX graphics performance with great battery life, you have a winner on your hands. All the light fluff is just icing on the cake to me.

    Pros (in order):
    1a) Power. This thing is a monster in terms of graphics. It really does seem to perform on par with a desktop 8800GTS (pre-G92). Completely blew away my 7950 Go GTX'd Dell, which is now relegated to closet duty.
    1b) Battery life: with Smartbay battery installed, I was able to get approx. 4 hours of battery life before the 10% warning came on. Enable BinaryGFX for an additional hour or so!
    2) LCD. I <3 LG.
    3) Design – borderline professional-looking (if you shut down AlienFX).
    4) Heat (or lack thereof): only gets warm, not hot.
    5) AlienFX controls are a blast to play with. Like its been said, you can spend an hour or more playing around with this interface.
    6) Convenient touch controls (Bluetooth, WiFi, Command Center, Stealth Mode) - well thought out, as I'd use 3 out of the 4 quite often.

    On the downside (in order):
    1) Keyboard input can take some getting used to.
    2) Touch-sensitive controls (including the touchpad) can be flaky.
    3) Slightly larger than standard 15.4" laptops, but thankfully not much thicker.
    4) Vista.
    5) Fingerprints could be an issue - prepare to wipe this thing down alot.

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    2-Months into owning an m15x:

    Well, I'm gonna try to give as honest a "review" as I can regarding the m15x. It's been nearly two months, and I've somewhat gotten past my initial "WOW" stage and can give a better impression. I'm gonna exclude all AW support related stuff other than standard driver support from this...these are my scores for the laptop itself.

    Case Design: 9/10 - Subjective, but I love the look of it, though I'd prefer the black. If it was black, 10/10. The chassis lights mean little to me, so I didn't take them into consideration here.

    Case Size/Weight/Portability: 8/10 - smaller & lighter than most if not all 17" laptops, but larger and heavier than some 15.4" laptops. A fair compromise if you ask me for all that you get. You can't expect to get a GTX in a M1530-sized laptop anytime soon. This is portable enough for most people. If it's not, get the aforementioned M1530. People's expectations vs realistic feasibility vs performance, you've got to make a compromise somewhere.

    Case Durability: 4-5/10 - At best a 5. This thing doesn't feel nearly as durable as my E1705 or 1505. Case creaks when you hold it, and what I feel may be an impending crack on the top left corner (where others have been experiencing the cracks). LCD bezel wobbles, and you can twist it (scary). My E1705 with a bigger screen feels MUCH sturdier and rigid. If you're taking this around, get a sleeve and case/backpack. I currently use the AW-provided sleeve, but I'm looking to get a proper sleeve soon.

    Performance: 9/10 - T9300 & 8800M GTX, nuff said. 10,056 3DM06 is quite powerful. If it had the X9000 and better graphics drivers, it'd probably be 10/10 but that's neither here or now.

    Driver Support: 7/10 - Can't really fault Alienware for Nvidia's driver issues with the 8800M GTX. Clevos are also having the downclock issues related to drivers; the only GTX that isn't having this issue I think is the M1730. I can confirm 167.59 from LTV2G runs the GPU at the default clock speeds. Other than that, the rest of the drivers are easy to get to, and seem to be updated. Knowledge base provides clear driver install order directions as well.

    Heat: 5/10 - Even with the BIOS, the GTX still gets pretty hot (mid-80's before the fans bring it down to high 70's, but it will immediately go back up to the mid-80's while gaming). Still could use a better heatsink design, or allow software fan control to better regulate this - I'd like to have the fans run on high at around 82 C instead of 86 or 87.

    LCD: 10/10 - I still love the LG 1440x900 screen. Bright colors, sharp picture. 1440 resolution is just right for my uses.

    Battery Life: 10/10 - 5+ hours with dual batteries and BinaryGFX enabled. This should be the secondary selling point of the m15x IMO to its GPU/CPU.

    Keyboard: 8/10 - I've gotten used to the keys now, and it's a pleasure to type on. The AlienFX-lit keyboard is a joy, and the keys resist finger oil glossiness that plagued my Dells. If it didn't have the bottom right hand flex, 10/10.

    Alienware "Gimmicks": 7/10 - this includes the touch controls, Command Center (with lights) and other software. Aside from the volume control, no real issue with the other touch controls. Only problem is, the volume control is pretty damn huge. No problem bloatware pre-installed is a plus.

    Am I happy with this laptop? Yeah, still am.

    Could it have been SO much better? Yeah, a bit frustrating as it could have been PERFECT with better case & LCD bezel rigidity, more responsive touch controls, and a better cooling solution for the GPU.
     
  2. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    Nice Pics. It would be interesting to see, wheather the smart-bay battery discharges before the main battery during usage off the plug.
    Have fun with your new toy ;)

    Paendrag

    Edit: On one of the pics you have a zalman device under the m15x. Is that a NB-Cooler? does it work with the m15x? It seems to be too small....
     
  3. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, that's the Zalman NC1000. Its a little small, but it "fits" - the rubber feet of the m15x aren't sticking out of the Zalman. In hindsight, I maybe should have got the NC2000.
     
  4. Bo@LynboTech

    Bo@LynboTech Company Representative

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    thanks for the comparison pictures
    so its going to be very slightly bigger than my acer 5672 by the looks of things
    perfect as it has to sit on my cooler and fit in my 15.4" carry bag......just eh? :)
     
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    bmwrob Notebook Virtuoso

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    shima, I know virtually nothing about AW machines other than what I've read online, but that sure is a good-looking beast! Congrats to you.
     
  6. WLF46WLF

    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    what res do you play 3dmark06 at?

    nice pics, thank you!

    what do you think about the size? it seems larger than your 15" inspiron! is that so big?? what do you think if compared to other thin and light 15"?
     
  7. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    I know it offtopic, but can you reccomend a nb-cooler? And Zalman is a reknown company for sure, but is this cooling device good? Did you have already a chance to test a NB-cooler? I live on a small tropical island and it can get quite hot at times and humid as well. I am thinking about getting a cooler for my m15x as well...
    Thanks for the help...
    Paendrag

    P.S> I know its much to be asked, but could you make a screenshot of the powerbricks data-sticker? I`need to check, wheather both 230/110 volts are supported. I know it should be no problem like with desktop powerunits (which have a switch for both voltages), but like to be sure. Alternatively you could just tell me what i stated on the sticker.. :) Thanks again!
     
  8. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    It's not the standard 3DMark 06 rezolution (which is 1280*1024), and therefore the score is higher than many Sager results.
     
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    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    yes, I'd like to know the standard res score
     
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    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    I bet it was 1280*800.
     
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    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    wait a minute! maybe the res 1440x900 can't play 3dmark @ 1280x 1024??

    maybe only 1650x1050 or 1920x1200 can.

    am I wrong, or we can't compare this score to standard score until one get the 1920 LCD?
     
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    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Don't be so dramatic. It's not a big problem, as the same thing happens to many laptops these days. Not even the MacBooks run 3DMark at the standard resolution, but no one seems to care about that.
    WXGA+ can't handle a resolution of 1280*1024, so 3DMark runs at 1280*800.
     
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    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not dramatic, but I've just found that for example you can't compare scores of a 8600GT ddr2 on a 1680x1050 with an 8600GT ddr3 on a 1440x900! :)

    the difference I found was high! now I understand why :)
     
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    what is important for benchmarking scores, is to benchmark the machine at its native resolution, that way the pixels fit and look best

    one of the main reasons for going for the lower resolution
    personally I would have been happy with a 1280x800 screen like my current one
    plenty of real estate for what I do and games dont have to run at such a high res

    from the other reviews I dont think we need worry about the performance.

    crysis results would be nice as well as bioshock

    Futuremark are said to be starting up a game studio to do proper games, using their engines, those will be the ones to get the benchmarks from :)
     
  15. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    AC Adapter/Power Brick specs:

    Manuf: LI SHIN International Enterprise Corp
    Model: 0302A19120
    Input: 100-240V, 5--60Hz, 2.0A
    Output: 19V 6.3A
     
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    Thanks for the pics shima.
     
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    shima Notebook Consultant

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    Battery life w/Smartbay test

    Conditions:
    - Default battery and Smartbay battery both fully charged when I unplugged it
    - Stealth mode active
    - LCD dimmed to 2nd lowest brightness setting
    - Bluetooth off
    - WiFi off
    - AlienFX on
    - Light use - I was doing some word processing and msconfig/regedit Vista optimizations (don't have much time at work here to surf or do much else, sorry) until the battery life 10% warning popped up.

    Result: 4 hours give or take 5 mins. Not bad at all. I'd imagine you lucky UK owners with the 9-cell battery can get 5 hours!

    One issue: The battery life meter on the bottom of the battery wasn't lighting up, so I wasn't sure which battery was discharging first. I may try another test later to find out, and also see how much battery life decreases with WiFi on w/internet usage, and also with AlienFX off.

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    Regarding the 3dmark06 score, I have no idea what resolution it was run on, since this score was logged as part of the AW burn-in phase before shipping out my laptop. I'll have to try my own 3dmark06 once I install it...I'll test it at native resolution this time.

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    On notebook coolers: Popular opinion has the Zalman NC series being the best, and I tend to agree. The NC1000 is a little small like I mentioned; if you're really anal about it, you might want to get the NC2000 model for 17"ers. At work I use the small Pacific Breeze cooler which also fans cool air underneath the laptop, while lifting the back end up higher. They work about the same, but the Zalman can be used on your lap, the Pacific Breeze cannot.
     
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    alien fx on means that you had all buttons, touchpad and keypad light on?

    to see what battery discharge first you can use everest or RMclock. very useful programs ;) but I think it will be the smart bay one! it would be more clever :)

    I think 4 hrs is not bad! maybe with alien fx off you can get better! hemlok said he reached 2:50 with one 6cells battery!
     
  19. shima

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    WLF46WLF: yes, that's correct. All light effects were on. Oh, and I had no peripherals connected to the laptop at the time of the test. Thanks for the tips on those 2 proggies, I'll check em out.

    A question for those that have the laptop w/Smartbay extra hard drive:

    Can you look inside for the connectors where the Smartbay drive/battery/optical drive connects to the motherboard, and tell me how many separate connectors you see? I see 2 in mine, one for the battery and one for the optical drive. I'm curious if getting a Smartbay hard drive means they add another separate SATA connector there. If this is the case, that kinda sucks for those that didn't buy the SB HD at the time of purchase as you wouldn't be able to add one in the future. I'm hoping that the SB HD and the optical drive uses the same connector.
     
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    strange! I think hdd & optical drive will use the same connector ;)

    it would be damage for AW itself if it is not so. someone can choose to buy a smart bay battery or hdd after few time
     
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    How many recovery cds did u get with it ??? i got 3 but there was a place for a fourth .. is that normal or have they "forgotten" to add it???

    thx ....

    oh and also how can i order a smartbay battery? , and will i have to take my dvd drive out to use it ???

    thxxx..
     
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    Thank you very much for the information Shima, you are a great help. I am traveling alot and need to change power Adapters in Europe/US/Japan regualry. So I only have to use the respective plug and don`t need to get seperate powerbricks...

    Furthermore I think I`ll get one of those Zalman coolers too. It should prolong the life of the NB....

    So long,
    Paendrag
     
  23. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Great information, I really like the size comparison photos. The Dell laptops you compared the m15x with are very common and therefore make a great point of reference.

    It's good to see that the power adapter is reasonably-sized, a lot of the gaming notebooks on the market have very large power adapters.

    And the keyboard lights are too awesome. The font Alienware is using/created is very appealing.

    Thanks for spending the time to do this!
     
  24. shima

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    manu4, I also got 3 CD's with it. One recovery, one support, and one Nero software CD.

    As for ordering the Smartbay stuff, I think you'd have to call if it isn't on their Gear shop yet. I hope they don't spike up the prices on them like Dell does on extra batteries and AC adapters.
     
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    the power brick is not too big, but it is bigger than thin&light notebook's power brick. I have mine (19V 4,74A) and the one for the docking station (19V 6,3A) that must be the same as in the m15x, so I will compare the weight ;)
     
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    Does anyone know if the height and width listed on the website are accurate?

    Alienware Site Specs (m15x):
    Width: 14.55”
    Depth: 10.73”

    I bought a bag for a M1530 (Returned to Dell) and I wanted to make sure that the m15x will fit as well.
     
  27. shima

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    Update: According to AW, they run the 3dmark06 burn-in test at native resolution, so mine would be 9835 at 1440 x 900. I haven't had a chance to do my own test yet, but I will this weekend.
     
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    Width and depth are accurate. Height is completey inaccurate :(
     
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    Thank you for the reply. :)

    I don't think I am too worried about the height. The rest of the dimensions sound like they will work though.
     
  30. shima

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    First post updated with default 3DMark06 score and Stealth Mode info via Everest.
     
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    it seems like in stealth mode it goes to standard 2d clocks for the 8800M GTX.

    what about the integrated GPU?? I think it would have a less discharge rate than that! maybe for this reason hemlock reach 2:50hrs with one battery!
     
  32. dawnkeeper

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    Btw, thanks for posting these images and impressions. I also have a E1505 and E1705.

    I originally purchased an m1530 XPS and was very dissapointed, it seemed so flimsy compared to the Inspirons, and the graphics were worse!! Plus of course the screen was hell. I returned that thing almost the same day as I recieved it.

    Anyways, this thread helped me to make the decision to purchase an Alienware m15x.
     
  33. shima

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    Dawnkeeper, good to hear :) I'm sure you won't regret getting it if the size doesn't bother you.


    Well, now that I got Everest to check GPU temps, I did a 3 hour GPU temp and heat test under load while gaming.

    GPU temps reached upwards of 86 deg C which was kind of alarming considering the laptop was placed on the Zalman cooler the whole time. The good news is, the bottom of the laptop was only warm, not scorching hot like my E1705 gets.

    Now that I know how to go into Binary GFX mode (Fn + F7), I'll do some more battery tests later.
     
  34. shima

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    First post updated with BinaryGFX info, and an estimated battery life of 5 hours using dual batteries.
     
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    WOW! I told you! 5hrs it's great!!

    and you were on high performance!! just turn on power saver next time! I think you can get even more than 5hrs :)

    only a question: to pass to the integrater gfx you have to reboot?
     
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    Dam nice man ....4 hours is way enough ...

    Shima... heard that we can't lower the brightness? not sure from which post ..did u try it ?
     
  37. shima

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    Yeah, this is great. We're talking serious ultraportable battery life here.

    Go go into BinaryGFX, you will have to reboot. BIOS will detect the Intel GFX instead of the GTX. So to update your integrated gfx driver, you will of course have to go into BinaryGFX mode and update drivers that way.

    Toprpm, you can turn the LCD brightness down using Fn + F4 and F5
     
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    it depends on what you do! to me up to 5hrs is perfect!
     
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    This is a load of battery time indeed! can't wait to get mine. I can finally bring an Alienware to class. :)
     
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    my thoughts exactly, dhoang417!
     
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    shima - if you're up to it, could you post some size comparisons with more common items? Maybe a soda/pop can, coins, etc?
     
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    Wow, that screen is really glossy! Nice pictures!
     
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    thanks for the pictures... you are making it harder and harder for me to resist this laptop...

    @toprpm
    nice to see another one piece fan here.
     
  44. shima

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    Okay, updated as a full review now...with bottle of water size comparison.
     
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    Nice update shima. also pictures, thanks to you i learned how to switch to built in VGA.

    mrxniick.

    One piece for ever, i was watching it since episode 45 and up to now. also was the timer of old fan subs called GERUSAMA.
     
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    i have a question. do they give you the smart bay? can i just drop in any laptop ata drive?
     
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    You have to buy the Smartbay device, whether it be battery or hard drive. I don't have a Smartbay hard drive, so I'm not sure how easy it is to remove the Smartbay bracket. If someone with a SB HD can chime in, and give us this info, it'd be great. Is it PATA or SATA?
     
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    I don't know if it is sata or ata, but for sure, you can connect/disconnect it as an external usb hard drive ;)
     
  49. shima

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    Added Crysis:

    All settings High, native rez:
    Frames: 1862 - Time: 101052ms - Avg: 18.426 - Min: 10 - Max: 32
     
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    THe crysis benches are really disappointing. I have a m15x in production and I thought we were supposed to expect around 25-30 FPS??? 18 is unplayable at high
     
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