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    m15x vs HDX

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by stirfriedsushi, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    so for fun today i went on the HP site and designed what i would buy had i ordered an HDX. I was actually surprised at the price and equipment i got and wanted to see a side by side comparison of my machine and this monster that dares call itself a laptop.

    Use of these powerhouses would be by a college student for gaming, watching movies, interwebs, and school work.

    My baby: m15x
    CPU: T8100 2.1 GHz
    GPU: 8800m GTX (512)
    memory: 2 gigs RAM
    HDD: 120 gig 7200 rpm
    8x dual layer burner, CDRW DVD-RW
    Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card
    AlienFX® Illuminated Keyboard
    OS: XP professional (self installed)
    Screen: 15.4" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p)
    Webcam
    FINAL PRICE: $2158.00

    the challanger: HDX
    CPU: T8300 2.4 GHz
    GPU: 8800M GTS (512)
    memory: 4 gigs RAM
    HDD: 2X 120 gig 5400 rpm
    LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and Bluetooth
    non illuminated keyboard
    OS: XP professional (self installed)
    Screen: 20.1" diagonal WUXGA High-Definition HP Ultra Brightview Widescreen (1920x1200)-"True HD" 1080p res
    HP Imprint Finish (Dragon) + Microphone + Fingerprint Reader + Webcam
    FINAL PRICE: $2148.00

    So which would you choose if you had the opportunity? Personally i don't know if the graphics loss is worth it. RAM is upgradeable, 120 gigs is plenty of space for gaming, and the processor difference isn't as important unless running high processor intensive games.
     
  2. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    What possibly could be the point of this ? You're asking me to choose between an overpriced M16 assault rifle and a value Russian rocket launcher to kill an enemy that is unknown.
    What's the *fun* in choosing between 2 things that are completely in their own leagues ?
     
  3. Nirvana

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    Hdx...............
     
  4. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    how are they in different leagues? only differences are the size. components are customizable on both machines. I just want to see what people think the better value is.
     
  5. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    And that's a humongous difference and the FIRST priority in choosing a notebook, except in certain cases. And value ? :D Well, it's quite obvious....
     
  6. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    Size of notebook isn't the first thing you choose, it is how it will be used. I bought a laptop because it is easier to deal with in college then a desktop. It stays in my room most of the time but i can bring it home if i want and its much better for LANs, so size doesn't mean much to me.

    though bigger looks better.
     
  7. MAG

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    The hard drives in the HDX or any HP notebook are not in RAID configuration.
     
  8. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    the HDX is seriously big. no, really really big. and yet, the GPU is underpowered. so m15x wins hands down.
     
  9. Nirvana

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    get an iMac or dell m2010 if you think bigger looks better.
     
  10. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

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    True, the m15x is also easy to upgrade in the future :D comparing to the HDX
     
  11. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    HP doesn't do raid? thats terrible! why have 2 hard drives then. why not offer 1?
     
  12. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    more storage space? it's not like you need RAID if you have two hard drives...
     
  13. Starborn

    Starborn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm close to a purchase, and I'm leaning hard to the HDX. The alternatives would be the m17x or the Dell XPS m1730, because 15" is too small for me. Going to be used primarily for gaming, but not Crysis.


    Please forgive my ignorance, but is the GTX really that superior to the GTS?
     
  14. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Why not a Sager ?
     
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    Starborn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm just not familiar enough with the brand to have confidence in it.

    I also really like the 20 inches. :)
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I only mentioned it since you mentioned the M17X and XPS M1730. As far as the brand goes, look up XoticPC and PowerNotebooks on www.resellerratings.com . That should bring you the confidence you need. If need be, compare them with the companies that you DO have confidence and trust in, like Dell and Alienware. After seeing for yourself that those companies have a higher rating, I think the confidence should come spontaneously. :)
     
  17. kobe_24

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    The challenger (HDX) can be had with better specifications than that you posted at a cheaper price. And yes, different leagues.

    There’s no need to add an external monitor to the HDX, unless you want a 60” Plasma. No matter how good the display is on the 17”, it will not compare to the 20” HDX. The HDX is an entertainment notebook first, with the ability to game. The m15x is a gaming laptop, period!

    The reason why I chose Sager over the HDX is because I like to disassemble my laptop among other things. And since the Sager is built for that, I chose it. But if I were just someone who wanted a good laptop sitting on my desk, then the $1500 HDX beauty would be a no brainer.

    So indeed, it depends on what you want in a notebook that will determine which is best.
     
  18. Nirvana

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    as i said, dell m2010
     
  19. whizzo

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    well, it is superior, yes, but if you're not looking for crysis-esque levels of power, it should suffice. then again, if you're not looking for crysis-esque levels of power, why are you considering the SLI beasts m17x and m1730? if you want 17" screen but not too much power, i'd advise taking a look at the sager m570ru (i think that's what the update's called)... with the 9800m-gts, you'd probably get a pretty nice price.

    about the HDX: it is seriously big. 20.1" is truly gigantic. totally unusable as a laptop. you'd probably never really be moving it around. which sorta defies the laptop idea. but that's just my two cents worth.
     
  20. Nirvana

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    Clevo M570TU/Sager NP5796
     
  21. kobe_24

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    And why? Post specifications on that laptop, and tell the user why it would even be an option....as you say?
     
  22. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    OP said "bigger looks better" on the first page.
     
  23. kobe_24

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    As OP said, he's looking at buying the HDX. So tell him why he should pick the 2010 over the HDX?
     
  24. kobe_24

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    Lets speed this up, here is the specifications on the 2010:

    • Intel Core 2GHz/667MHz T2500 Duo Processor
    • Windows Media Center Edition 2005
    • Windows Vista Capable (The future of Windows)
    • 256 MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1800 graphics card that offers big power for multimedia and gaming.
    • 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
    • 240GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drives
    • Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (DVD +/-RW)
    • It has a 1.3 mega-pixel video camera and an array microphone than enables the user to enjoy larger-than-life video chat or conferencing.

    You maybe can get that for $2500 if you're lucky.

    Now what do you see there that would persuade him not to get an HDX for $1599 or less?
     
  25. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Which one will fit in my back pack :)
     
  26. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    don't flame on me, i am not the only person suggested something else. and gosh you are sensitive, my comment was just a joke.
     
  27. maceto

    maceto Notebook Evangelist

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    What Nirvana polity has bee trying to tell stirfriedsushi is to get anything but the AW.. anything

    because if the AW go for the 17 then, not as many problems as the m15x, but then again, they seem to be shipped by mules from China to the US.. they take forever to build

    Nirvana- I am assuming here, so not trying to put words in your mouth... :)
     
  28. Harper2.0

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    none of them... unless you have a massive backpack... or the m15x
     
  30. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    so tell him why mystik..... :D

    sorry kobe - just had to :)
     
  31. Phritz

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    Sorry, but you are way behind - Alienware abondoned using Clevo more than a year ago after its reputation suffered because of the poorly cooled 17" P4 Clevo. (note - Alienware could have provided better customer service - but there's nothing they can do with a poorly cooled chassis)

    Even Voodoo has moved on to making it's own proprietary notebooks ;)

    So if someone from Xotic is reading this - I know it helps your sales a lot by saying that you're building the same laptops as Voodoo and Alienware - but it's not true anymore :)
     
  32. Harper2.0

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    I was just trying to get the OP to be a little more open minded, that's all :)
     
  33. exiled

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    in that link, it never said that AW uses Clevo. it just said that AW uses an ODM.
     
  34. Svarto

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    Never actually checked the resellerratings, very impressive for PowerNotebooks! XoticPC hasnt had that many reviews yet which is odd, are they new?

    Actually calmed me down a bit, after reading so much bad about AW on these forums, their resellerratings are no where near DELLs which my parents were advocating! I guess there is still some hope.
     
  35. haquocdung

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    hope you dont get a lemon. :)
    get on sager/clevo forum, there will be more information than you can find on those reseller rating.
    the first time, I get on that forum. I had no ideas what is sager/Clevo but there are a lot of good ppl there that give you good answer more than any forum. read some review about sager model also help. Sager/Clevo they dont spend milltion dollars in advertising that's why they are not famous. but they are the best :).
     
  36. kobe_24

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    ROFLMAO!

    It's cool, I know the feeling.


    I guess I went off a bit, because the M2010 is the notebook to compare the HDX against since both are entertainment (20”) notebooks that were designed for a particular consumer in mind. But due to its price falling way below the $3000 mark (half of that), it’s becoming appealing to users who never thought of owning such a beast. So when you make the comparison HDX vs. Dell 2010, the HDX really shines. In fact, the HDX really shines period seeing it does exactly what it was built to do and more. Throwing it in a backpack carrying it around school all day was not its purpose. Seeing how big 17’ laptops are, neither were they.