m17x running perfect on 2.93 ghz not on 3.06 ghz

well I try to pass 3.00 ghz raising my fsb. to 1285 leaving memory and multiplier stock and my laptop runs good for about 10 min. and crashes with a blue screen recovery. now when I raise fsb. to 1222 I get 2.93 ghz stable play gta-4 for couple hours with no problem at all my question is somebody can tell me how to get 3.00 or 3.02 ghz raising fsb. only what number I use I don't want to raise the multiplier to overclock the cpu only

 

First off, an overclock is never guaranteed, different chips will yield you different results. You may not be able to go further.

 

you want to use the multiplier why ?

also did you update your BIOS like i said ? since it helps quads overclock .... it was on the front page and i even put "better stability for overclocking "

 

if I use the multiplier only is overclock the cpu only maybe if I found a good combination raising mult. and fsb. little bit to get to 3.02 I did uprade to new bios A01

 

NM, I changed my mind.

 

thank's Ovrclck350 that really helps this forum is made for that for people who don't know nothing I may keep searching for answers

 

These CPU's can handle a high FSB just fine, I had a weak one and it took 310 FSB (1240 for you M17x ppl) just fine. Messing with multi never seems to work well for me.

 

1240 thank's rebooting now

 

well that was just my processor and in a different notebook all together, but hope it works for you haha

 

Try overclocking by multiplier first; the reason for this is that it only overclocks your CPU; its an internal multiplier; and thus if you fail stability checks, you know its the CPU/temps/volts getting in the way. You may not be able to push it up much because you have to remember that each extra 1x multiplier is adding and extra 266Mhz directly onto the core clocks, once you've found a stable multi clock, use setfsb to tweak the final clock, as you may be able to push a little further...where its 50Mhz-200Mhz.
FSB clocking is much more likely to give you confusing fails; as you're reliant on the board, RAM and northboard just as much as the CPU; whereas if you can do 95% of the work with the multi, it'll making tweaking that last little bit of stable performance that little bit easier.

Most chips, desktop or laptop, don't have unlocked multipliers; they can only be set lower; not higher, and this is why most clocking posts talk about FSB above all else.
The fact you know your system is good to about 1200FSB will be useful as you can work around that figure, and know your system's limits. Be aware you've overclocked the RAM and mobo about 15% which tends to be the maximum expected region anyway (most boards can support a leeway of about 10%, good overclocking boards become known as such because they're capable of pushing much more).

 

what I do is I find the max multiplier that is stable (at stock fsb), and then raise fsb little at a time until unstable (well I really overshoot, and drop it until stable, same result)

For me the multiplier part went pretty quick, 10.5 was it on my system (THAT IS UNIQUE TO ME - others got 12x with no problems) and from 10.5 I started at 300 fsb and bumped down 1 at a time. My final OC was 10.5x and 287 FSB on my whitebook and that was 24/7 stable - not a weak stable like some ppl do

 

You shouldn't be overclocking if you don't know anything about it. That's the point.

 

thank's before I try with the multiplier only and get 3.06 stable but when I run 3dmark06 I get more marks with fsb. only that's why I try to set fsb. to the max limits

 

the point is we don't born knowing everything and we learning step by step if you don't want to share with the people that's the real point

 

Well using fsb over multi will raise score because it boosts system memory as well as cpu. But will typically make you unstable sooner. At the end of the day though, CPU score is much more important than slight memory improvement

Go with whichever gives you higher CPU clock speed

 

so you think if I stay with 11.5 multiplier an leaving memory and fsb. stock It would run more stable

 

use occt to test for stability

 

sorry but what's occt please

 

The way to learn is to read up about it first, then jump into it.

You do realize that there's a reason the components are rated to run at the speeds they're rated at? You also realize that for most applications the performance gain you get by overclocking from 2.93 to 3.06 is negligible/non-existent, right? So why would you stress pushing your system past what you've already proven to yourself to be stable?

Jumping from 2.53-2.93 is 400mhz. Jumping from 2.93 to 3.06 is 130 mhz. Is the extra 130mhz really going to make a difference to you for your uses?

The only thing that really gets me about people who don't know what they're doing who are overclocking is that these are the people who are going to fry something and then wanna cry about it or try to warranty it out.

 

It's a tool that you can use to stress test the cpu or gpu to make sure that your overclocks are stable. It will also show you what the max temps you will ever see are.

It is pretty much the definitive test for stability.

So use whichever method works better for you (goal being maximum CPU clock) and test for stability each try with OCCT.

 

Can't fry anything here hehe, no voltages can be changed out of spec. It is a cart blanche for over clocking

 

well that's a good point 130mhz is not a big difference that's true but answer this: why all the people tryng to get pass 3.00 ghz on their qx9300?

 

because it makes their e-peen grow duh.....lol

 

thank's I will try that

 

why the angry face in sig? lol

 

uups sorry

 

it is ok haha, I was just curious

 

Actually, I'd say use IntelBurnTest 2.3 over OCCT. OCCT *since last last major revision* and IBT both use Linpack stress testing. Under 64bit, this gets...hot. I'd recommend IBT as its, smaller, and lighter for the same thing, not to mention when you chose maximum stress, it really will be, OCCT tends to default to trying 90% stress instead.
Both good programmes though, I use them both for differnt things

But yeah, multiclock your processor first, find out where thats completely stable to, then try pushing for that little extra with setFSB, as that way you're pushing the RAM/Mobo/Northbridge less for virtually the same speed, and also means you know you're within 250Mhz of your top score generally due to the multiclocking

To use IBT successfully, basically load it, open up something to keep a good eye your temps, set it to do 5/10 runs on maximum stress. Watch your temps, you don't really want them going over 100 degrees and lower is better, but dont be worried if they get high, as in 80s etc, as IBT will, simply put, make your chip hotter than anything else going.

If you pass all 10 runs and it reports success, then congrats you're pretty much stable. If you fail, blue-screen or lock up, then you need to restart and pull your overclock back a little, do that until you've found your top point while watching temps, then back it off slightly to give you a little extra leeway. (Ie if your maximum stable clock was 3700Mhz, I'd probably recommend docking at say 3650.) You don't need to do this, but it'll keep temps down a little further and help maintain stability, and peace of mind is hella important!

 

Every single processor is unique. My Q9000 will overclock higher than other's Q9000s, and there are Q9000s out there that will go higher than mine (probably). It's the same with every chip out there.

If you've reached your max FSB overclock, try raising the multiplier a bit too. Overclocking the FSB might be causing instability from any component on the bus meaning you might be able to push your CPU higher. And overclocking other components on the bus really makes very little difference.

2.93GHz however is plenty for pretty much EVERYTHING out there. Every single game should run without a problem on that sort of clock. Only reasons I can think of to go higher is either for faster media conversion or something, or to emulate console games (seeming as they really, really like more GHz).

 

FACEPALM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

Are you on your period?

1. Why are you being a about this? People go to this forum for help... You set a really bad example for this community with comments like this.
2. As said by scook9, you can't fry anything with the locked voltages, why tell him to learn more when you obviously haven't captured the full concept with this notebook...

exactly... the higher the clocks the better... would you rather have 2.93ghz or 3.06ghz if there were no extra cost?

 

thank's to all for your help I am done with this the max I can get stable is 2.99ghz is showing on cpuz 2993 mhz stable on 3dmark 06 I get 15,530 points. windows is showing 2.8 ghz my settings are multiplier= 10.5 memory=1066 stock fsb.=1140 I hope those settings help someone like me, I don't know to much about this but with nice people like to many on this forum I am learnig alot

 

glad we could help!

 

For a quad that's still great performance, don't sweat it. That chip at 3Ghz will outperform 95% of desktop chips; the QX9300 is actually based, IIRC, upon the revised C2Q cores so your chip is actually a little more efficient, clock per clock, than the likes of the popular Q6600 desktop chip. The mobile chips tend to be some of the cream of the crop though, designed to perform at reasonable clocks; with lower power requirements (and heat output) than a desktop part, the QX especially being the extreme premium parts.

Only desktop parts that will beat your CPU will be heavily overclocked desktop chips and some of the I7 series (or overclocked I7s, the I7 is on average about 10-15% more efficient than the later C2 designs, so the I7 920 will be about on par), so feel happy knowing you've got that sort of raw beasty performance in a laptop, make sure you're max stress linpack stable, keep an eye on temps til you're sure you're not getting silly hot...and enjoy