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    nVidia G-Sync from Alienware Laptops with nVidia cards.

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by woodzstack, Nov 25, 2014.

  1. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Do the mobile nVidia cards support G-Sync ?

    Is G-Sync something only monitor dependant (aside from needing nVidia gpu), or is it also dependant on which card we are using.

    Will it work on an old 580m or 680m gtx?

    Will it work on 780M/880M or maybe the 980M's

    Some people say it works , but on nvidia websites it only shows the desktop cards as having any support for it. this annoys he hell out of me to no end.

    There are thousands of threads of people asking about this, but seems very few mobile users are willing to just buy a g-Sync monitor and try it, or the ones who know or can prove the awnser have yet to make it public and credible enough that the concern is taken care of.

    I would like to know if I can use my 780m's or 880m with the display ports on a m18x-r2 for a g-sync monitor setup.
     
  2. jsizzie_2004

    jsizzie_2004 Notebook Guru

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    It maybe available as a driver support upgrade for current GTX 9XX GPUs in the future, who knows...
     
  3. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    They don't support mobile GPU's, yet. I imagine next year they will.
     
  4. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I think Meaker said G-Sync works fine with external displays. I'm assuming he was referring to his Kepler 780m's.
     
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    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Man I want me one of those ROG PG278Q's. 980m's come first though :)
     
  7. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    It is a very nice monitor. The absolute best monitor for gaming I have ever used. I just obtained a laptop with dual 980m's and will test the monitor with it in the next day or two. I am also in the debate to just upgrade my current desktop to 3-way 980's and adding two more swift monitors. I really like my kingpins cards though so I am more on the side of keep my desktop the way it is for now since I just finished building it anyway and just build another crazy desktop next year once the x99 stuff settles down, dd4 ram settles down and the waterblocks for the 980 classifieds are out etc.
     
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    That's good to hear. It's on my radar for sure. You'll get 3 maybe?! Clearly I'm in the wrong profession!!!! :eek: I'd stick with your 780 KingPins and wait for some 8gb 9xx's to come out. I agree on the DDR4 Ram too. Those prices...nasty.
     
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    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    One is nice, three would be nicer. :) Nice surround gsync at 144hz.. YUM
     
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  10. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Isn't it funny how folks predicted the demise of desktop enthusiast machines and gamers dedicated to desktops would be displaced by amazingly powerful laptops? Now it seems like the Intel and its OEM prostitutes are going out of their way to solidify the desktop as the enthusiasts platform of choice by making all of the options available in laptops too pathetic for any enthusiast to take seriously.
     
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    Yep.. I didn't see this coming 2 years ago. Who would have thought we'd be dealing with CPU's less powerful and more comprised as we move "forward (and downwards into the toilet)". We should be getting mobile Hex cores by now. That's what's bugging me massively. It's not like it can't be easily achieved technically, thermally or for whatever other reason.
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Well, I'm sure they have figured out that giving us something amazing today makes their job tomorrow that much harder. Instead of pressing onward and upward, I think they are "pacing" or "throttling" their approach so that the path from today to tomorrow can be a leisurely walk in the park that rakes in big bucks. If they have to beat what they did today, they cannot get rich resting on their laurels. With AMD basically asleep at the wheel and out of the picture in CPU world, what we have to put up with is almost predictable. The nice thing is, enthusiasts that had the intelligence to buy unlocked Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge and Haswell-E X, K and XM processors can have bragging rights that last 4 to 6 years, while saving money in the long run compared to the cheapskates that need to spend money on a CPU upgrade every year or two in order to keep up, LOL.
     
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  13. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Well, i don;t know about HEX cores on a laptop - cause sitting that much transistors next to eachother just gets exponentially hot, and space is always a concern thus heating efficiency - however, lets agree, they seem to be widtholding some of the opions from laptops users, like the G-Sync. Anyways, I have faith Alienware is up to soemthing, like maybe having the graphics adapter on the 17 and 18 as well as higher resolution screens and then supporting DDRL4 around the corner.

    So, multiple people confirm using 780M GT with G-Sync and its working fine. The support list USED to included 880M GTX but now the page has been revised and does not show ANY mobile cards on it. I am thinking it probably works too, and that being said, probably the 980M gtx as well, maybe all the 9 Series, who knows.

    We are missing a G-Sync monitor that is 4K and is ABOVE 30'' coming out with a 28'' one is friggin stupid, it causes alot of eye strain and clutters the desk. Im using a 30"" HP LP3065 that i paid 1500$ for 7 years ago, it does 2560x1600 @60Hz., and Im using my miniDP to connect to it via an adapter. Works great. I would NOT downgrade to a smaller screen, nor would I want to move the screen closer. If only people would understand this - but we do NEED G-Sync, and 4K and larger THEN 30".

    as for laptops- FIRST ONE WITH A GRAPHICS ADAPTER WITHOUT ULV CPU gets my money too. Hopefully still portable. Then we would be set.

    Bets of all worlds. Its would become THE SETUP and standard.

    If only people from these companies would listen to the gamers, like myself, who are part of larger communities, we know what we want, we wanted it years ago, and would save and pay top dollar for it.
    We want more then one company to have it, to be competitive, so we can say we have it from the best one, to say we didn't skimp on quality, to be even more proud. Brandname does mean something to us.
     
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    The 980M supports G-SYNC. Nice! :D
     
  16. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yup.. I've got about 10 hours of bf4 in today with my 980m sli laptop on my Asus rog monitor. Gsync and 144hz is simply breath taking.
     
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    Yes it is a very tasty combination :) CPU power really helps when going above 60hz.
     
  18. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    wow. Nice. yeah the 880M has no option for enabling G-Sync. But there were people who had the opion before on 780M and 880M and showed it, but latest drivers do not have it. This is fustrating, I think this is exactly what Fax meant by

    When most hardware stands still performance wise for 3-4 years or more, mobility is going to catch up in terms of performance, its whats always in demand at least, and makes sense. And to be honest , think of DDR3 RAM, where we had 2133Mhz 7 years ago. yet, standard is still only 1600Mhz pretty much everywhere. No improved bus, they created the architect in a way that it became static and would not have any performance gains, going faster. You can effectively just mention DDR3 and not specify what speed you run at, so long as your at a suspected JEDEC standard timing, you going to have the same throughput in real world application, at every speed.
    Now go back to DDR2. 400Mhz vs 800Mhz or 1066Mhz, or 1200Mhz. There was performance gained at every step. Though laptops only ran at 533 afaik until replaced by DDR3 at 1333Mhz..

    is stagnant. If Alienware/Dell truely creates new versions with the capability of using those graphics adapters but doesn't soldered on any CPU's, they are going to get alot of market share back, cause pretty much everyone else is going to leap to desktops for 1-2 years just to get some performance gain as its now slowed down on laptops again.

    Actually, if DELL/AW allows only soldered on CPU's then theres just going to be a more talented, higher tier enthusiasts market, and some money to be made for us who can reball/reflow easily. The only issue will again be finding aftermarket cpu upgrades. If they stop releasing higher end cpu's altogether, then people simply won't buy them unless they are dork sand know much less about computers in general.
     
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    The power vs performace cost of faster DDR3 is questionable. Make sure you are in non optimus mode to use G-sync.
     
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    I Have 980m SLI but there is no "Setup G-Sync" option in my Nvidia Control Panel. Does the option become available once you hook up a G-Sync compatible monitor through display port? My laptop is an MSI GT80 Titan
     
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    Yes, you need to use a gysnc monitor through the DP to see it as an option.
     
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    Cool thanks man. Since your using essentially very similiar hardware as me. My laptop has 2x mDP 1.2 and 1x HDMI 1.4a. I wanted to hook up 3 monitor surround however I know I have port limitations (HDMI being 60hz and no g-sync). Could I setup like a 4k monitor with G-Sync in the center and then just run 2 1440p monitors on the side without? That way if I want 4k with G-Sync run the 1 otherwise drop res down to 1440p and run surround with G-Sync on the center monitor but not on the 2 sides @ 60hz.


    So if possible would you opt for 4k center with 2 sides or just go 3 ROG Swift and use 2 with-gsync 1 without @60hz
     
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    You can't game with them as a single display but yes you can run like that for desktop work.

    You could have a ROG for high performance gaming, the 4k g-sync for slower titles and then a standard monitor on the HDMI for some extra space.
     
  24. woodzstack

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    wait wait.. theres a 4k monitor with G-Sync ?
     
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