performance difference between q9000 and qx9300

The q9000 is +300 and the qx9300 is +1000. both 4 cores q9000 is 2.0ghz and qx9300 is 2.53ghz. How much faster is the qx9300 vs the q9000 in booting vista 64 ultimate? Also when encoding a 720p x264 video file how much faster will the qx9300 be? Basically I want to figure out if in general the extra 700 dollars is worth it or not.

 

qx9300 is only $400 on ebay.

 

yea for those chinese engineering samples. No thanks I want an official chip with official warranties and support.

 

Divide 2.0 by 2.53, then decide how much +6MB of L2 cache really matters.

 

Does anyone have some actual numbers in minutes and seconds a 2 hour 720p x264 video takes to encode with each processor?

 

i can't do that but i have benchmarks about it in the toshiba offical thread.

 

Never really thought of this, btu yeah I do believe that is a huge price range. I just went with the extreme bc its OC abilities

 

Hi guys,

I dont want to hijack the thread but I was on E-bay yesterday and noticed how much cheaper those Chinese type sample processors are compared to the official ones....are they any worse performance wise and would I really lose out that much chosing this cheaper option?

 

The ES processors are as reliable as the retail chips, as long as you get a QS.

 

whats a QS Kevin??

 

QS is Qualification Sample , basically the last step before becoming the final chip OEM or Retail.

 

is it easy to upgrade the cpu in a m17?

 

if you installed a desktop before then you can do this laptop.

 

So the original question never really got answered. How great is the performance increase between these 2 processors?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=306522&page=111

1103 and on

 

so a 1970 point increase 2.0ghz to 2.53 ghz. +1000 dollars for that much increase seems not worth it. I think im leaning towards an extreme 2 core processor that i can slightly overclock to around 3.5ghz

 

actually. i can't use 2.0ghz on my system. it was more on the slow side compared to 2.53ghz. and i never had my os install for more then 2 weeks for testing purposes so i don't know about the long term.

what exactly are you looking for in a laptop. 3.5ghz for me is far away becuase of voltages. i haven't stopped but i haven't continued either. i'm shaky at 3.33ghz. i know i can break it but i have been busy.

plus that's just 3dmark. what will you be doing on your laptop.

 

I'll be doing a bunch of different stuff, Editing audio files such as making beats, Downloading 1080p video and playing it on my TV via HDMI output, a lot of raring and unraring of various large files, Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 when they are released, A lot of dvd burning as I sell locally movies for 3 bucks each. I play a few MMO games, Creation of some PDF files, html editors, some very basic photoshop image editing, a lot of older games from the mid 90's to early 2000's, Playing Flac audio files, Use of virtual drives to mount various iso's, Will also be ripping audio cd's to FLAC lossless format with .cue file. Ripping dvd's to the hard drive and editing them with dvd shrink so the iso will fit on single layer and sometimes dual layer depending on movie. Ripping Blu Ray discs in full 1080p format with x264 codec in .mkv container.

I think the x9100 overclocked will be my best bet. Even if it's not overclocked I dont trust the stuttering issue many people have with the qx9300 and i dont want to open my laptop and start moddingall this copper crap.

 

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then do what you think is best. i would go with the qx9300 and copper mod it. only 3 people has done it and it has work wonders. so i don't know why your saying it's crap. plus if you don't want to do it then get a w90 and put a qx9300. then use setfsb and software overclock then. and flash your vbios to install new drivers. or be stuck at 8.12

 

i mean its crap as far as having to do all this hardware modification to the notebook. It should be done properly from the facotry. If the new allpowerful has a qx9300 that runs properly i may get it then.

 

DING DING DING DING...We have a winner!

My point exactly

 

Ok, then spend 2X the money, and hope that you go through 2 in a year to make up for it.

For someone who seems to profit from a lot of illegal activity, I find it odd that you're worried about official warranties.

 

just buy 2 chips from them and you will still be saving money from AW overpriced crap. and if you search carefully you will see that it's more secure to buy from china. AW doesn't test CPU's under heavy load in orthos for 48hours before they sell. It's much more likely to get a faulty chip from AW then from trusty china vendors.
Also if you are so worried about 2years warranty on the chip you can still buy a OEM one elsewhere for a lot less cheaper then AW price.
And of course if you buy it from AW you will get shuttering issues if you don't mod it.

 

+$1200, for a notebook CPU. Just let that sink in for a while.

 

i have an es running at 3.2 stable.

 

Got a QS running 24hours per day 3ghz oced no stuttering overheating or anything. No copper mod either.
Got it for 300€ directly from Taiwan (ebay purchase).
So for under half a price id say its worth it even if it somehow did burn out in a year or so. Im getting a QS qx9500 when it comes out anyway and ill probably still pay less for both than if id buy an oem qx9300. Think it over.

 

That is going to take up a lot of space you don't want that if you plan to game on your machine as well. External Esata drive would do it. Don't mix it with the rest of your files.

 

will that new chip fit in the M17?

 

Protip: There is no QX9500.

 

Hi Kevin,

he did say "when it comes out" could it be on the horizon perhaps??

 

I don't remember the numbers, but there is supposed to be another Q coming out, as well as a model identical to the X9100 but with lower power consumption.

 

Q9100 and T9900

 

There are Q9200 (2.4Ghz) engineering samples on eBay, but there's no guarantee it'll see a retail announcement.

 

To answer you about the qx9500 and q9200:

These are out already: Q9000 (6mb L2, 2ghz, locked multi), Q9100 (12mb L2, 2,2ghz, locked multi), Q9200 (12mb L2, 2,4ghz, unlocked multi - killer notebook sells them if youre saying they dont exist (look in nagamaki configuration page) - safe oc to 2,93ghz) and QX9300 (12mb L2, 2,53ghz, unlocked multi - safe oc to 3.06ghz).
Quad to come in the future: QX9500 (12mb L2, 2,93ghz, unlocked multi) Look HERE for upcoming cpus (includes dual and quad for desktops and notebooks).

 

Thanks for all that info Hellcry!! what about further compatibility with the M17? will all these CPUs be compatible with the M17?

Thanks pal.

 

QX9500, X9300, X9500, none of these exist.

 

i heard tell that the qx9900 is going to have a 3.75 ghz clock, 24mb l2 cache, 22nm die shrink, and will solve world hunger.

 

^^^ Don't forget bring world peace too.

 

Nice to see we can always count on __-_-_-__ to bring a bunch of Alienware negativity to the threads.

 

well in alienware's defense....

the $4100 i spent on a gaming rig back in 02 was about $850 solely for the 22" CRT.

the market for gaming pc's has changed; and there's a lot more options out there than there used to be. when it came time to get a new laptop, 4 months of research proved to me that gateway was no longer the astronomically good deal it used to be; that 1920x1200 screens were hard to come by PERIOD...let alone in a 15.4" factor; and that alienware's features for the buck was low compared to most of rest of the market.

yes, my first choice would have been an alienware. new rig in my sig.

 

The "China" CPU's are fine. I haven't heard anyone here with an ES QX9300 complain that it broke, and from my personal experience it's been a very solid processor and completely worth the money. It has great performance, but I would never pay double to triple as much for the same thing. Once you put in it in, you forget it's OEM, or ES, or whatever. If it works, it works, and the less $$ you spend the smarter you are.

It's not just AW that charges out the *** for CPU upgrades, Sager and any other retailer is just as guilty...

 

My QX9300 is an ES, and so was my previous X9100. You pay a fraction of the price, because it's technically not the final product. I run my QX9300 at 3.06Ghz every day with no issues. Intel isn't going to release an inferior product, regardless of weather it's in it's testing stages or not.

 

Beleave me TurbodTalon there been a few Intel chips or motherboard that where faulty. Alot of times they try to Scale down the cpu untel they can run stable like they take a 3ghz cpu and drop it down to 2.6ghz.

If you look at Intel corp you will find a few Faults with some cpu and motherboard. I beleave a Pentium III at 1.133 GHz had some issues when it was frist made.

But Intel been pritty good 98% of the time.

 

I agree. They have their faults. All I can relay is personal information.

 

Eh, I haven't seen one post one NBR where a CPU went bad, and I'm talking ES, OEM, or Retail. They're the most reliable part of the notebook, and an ES is just as solid.

 

Just a note, Intel doesn't "release" these, and all ES processors that are bought are technically still property of Intel, as they're considered stolen property.

 

lol very true

 

When Intel stops overcharging us for CPUs, we'll stop buying ES processors. A processor like the T9900 should cost no more than $200, like the 3.16Ghz E8500, which is just $189.99.

 

Just like mobile GPU's shouldn't cost 3x as much as their desktop counterparts

Most parts designed for laptops carry a hefty premium....

 

I refused to buy a retail qx9300 I brought an es sample and love it to bits in the uk the quad from aw costs 950 British pounds I brought my es for 243 now that is a saving and as u can see from my sig I have no problems with it