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    questionnaire about gaming netbook on alienware.com

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Axman, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Axman

    Axman Notebook Evangelist

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    I went there earlier and they have a questionnaire about what you would want from a gaming netbook/ sub 12" notebook. I found it quite interesting, something small and powerful in the future from dell/alienware perhaps?
     
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    humm dell could try to make somethign with their name
     
  3. Axman

    Axman Notebook Evangelist

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    If it had some good specs, i would buy one. For school of course. LOL
     
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    IMO its just nto worth it

    If you could put a 40nm GTS 260 in their though .....
     
  5. Axman

    Axman Notebook Evangelist

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    thats what i put for adition info. One of the new AMD processors that are 32nm with large L2 cache, and a 40nm ati or NVIDIA card. i bet it could be done, but would be expensive. it would have to be all new tech in it as well.
     
  6. Phinagle

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    Got a link cause I'd like to tell 'em my ideas? ;)

    Ion with a CULV or Neo with M780G in a 10.1 or 11.1" chassis.

    For gaming purposes it'll have an 8-way directional pad on to the left of the trackpad and 6 programmable buttons on the right...turning the palm rest into your basic game controller.
     
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    you always were crazy Phin
     
  8. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    To be honest all a small gamers notebook would require would be a midrange, low powered CPU over an atom which is a little too weak, and a slightly more powerful GPU, just a midrange part. Yeah it wouldn't get the same battery life; but if they equipped it well enough with a decent battery, Im sure it's quite possible for it to last 3 hours.
     
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    yea the M17x last 3 hours so its kinda like Why ?
     
  10. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    I'd imagine they're prefer not to have to put a 12 cell battery in the netbook though :D

    But yeah, should definately be doable, as long as attention to detail and power consumption was paid.
    I'd imagine a power efficient, non-atom, dual core, 2GB, 160GB HDD, GPU toting netbook would be quite popular if it wasnt dead on it's feet when it comes to battery life; or amazingly expensive.
     
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    Something like the 9400M of the ION or the HD3200 in the M780G chipset are in my opinion the best graphics options for netbooks. Nvidia iGT209 IGP would also likely be a good choice.

    Anything dedicated and your going to get extra power consumption, extra heat, and extra bulk for performance that's going to get bottlenecked by the CPU anyway.
     
  13. Serephucus

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    I'd love a 12-cell in the M17x. Hopefully they'll make one at some point.
     
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    my 9400m ran RE 5 @ 7 FPS @ 1900res :eek:
     
  15. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Wow...that'd be fun to play :eek:
     
  16. Phinagle

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    Yeah but 1900x1200 resolution on a sub-12" screen... :nah:

    9400M at 1366x768 and med-low settings should produce playable settings for a lot of games.


    Anyway submitted my responses so if they come out with a netbook that's got a console controller built into the palmrest you know who's idea that was.
     
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    hey phin ill run it @ 1280 for you
     
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    1280x720 RE 5 no AA motion Blur on was 14 FPS average

    DX9 and DX10 were the same
     
  19. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Hahah I was kidding :)
    To be honest I think 1280x800 would be a reasonable compromise; slightly lower power use as well in theory :)

    If they can get a more powerful GPU than the 9300M, Im pretty sure some gamers would welcome it anyway, it depends on what parts they're able to order and integrate with the aid of the manufacturers I guess.

    And thanks to you now I've got an image of an N64/SNES controller with an MSI wind bolted to the back stuck in my head.
     
  20. Axman

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    RGBLED screen as well with touch capability (now im dreaming). SSD, 4 GB ram in a single stick, new 32nm processor, and an integrated gpu that has dedicated memory @ least 2gb worth DDR5
     
  21. Koshinn

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    One of the questions asks how well you expect Crysis to run on a netbook.

    Seriously?
     
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    ROFL... that made my night, gnight everybody.
     
  23. Phinagle

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    Asus N10 netbook running Crysis Warhead

    <object width='425' height='344'><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GqzhtI_xhPY&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GqzhtI_xhPY&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='425' height='344'></embed></object>

    Asus N10 netbook running Call of Duty 4

    <object width='425' height='344'><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WoF2ppr4IEA&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WoF2ppr4IEA&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='425' height='344'></embed></object>
     
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  24. Axman

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    thats pretty cool. You can pack more into a 12" lappy too. so i bet it would be faster and have much better specs.
     
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    TBH a netbook which can run CSS and I'm happy :D .

    BTW a netbook with ION and with the alien LID... I would buy :D
     
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    Those could be totally faked with ease.

    As someone who owns a netbook of basically the same specs as the Asus N10... I really want to call BS on those.

    Oh nevermind, forgot the N10 has a 9300.
     
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    If they go to 12" they fail. 11 .1" or under or else build a full spec notebook.

    For what Alienware would charge for a 12" netbook/umpc with an Alienhead and lights you could buy a full spec 13" notebook.
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

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    Frankly it isn't worth the trouble given the power you get in the m15x right now and the fact that a new ones is supposed to be around the corner.

    At least that is my opinion, I don't need/want a computer I can put in my cargo pocket.
     
  29. EviLCorsaiR

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    I would like to see from them a 13" lappy with a high end 40nm card, and maybe even an extreme processor. I can imagine it now, the M13x with QX9300 and ATi Radeon Mobility 4860. That would rock.

    Or maybe they could make the first ever 10" or 11" 'netbook' with a non-Atom processor and a 9400M. That would be pretty nice, but obviously they couldn't price it too heavily.
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    And THAT notebook WOULD be able to cook your breakfast.....haha cooling nightmare?
     
  31. EviLCorsaiR

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    Not necessarily. A fan for the CPU and one for the GPU with large heatsinks and problem solved. You wouldn't even need a GPU heatsink like in the M15x, because the 40nm chip will run cooler.
     
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    When the are not as wide, they also make them not as thick, and that is what hurts the heatsink options.

    Although I would love to see some advancements here, don't get me wrong.

    And notice that even though the tech keeps getting smaller for transistors, they always seem to make the chips still run hotter and hotter? They will just cram more onto the die completely negating the effect as far as heat output is concerned.