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    t7700/7800 in m9750?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by dozzen, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. dozzen

    dozzen Notebook Guru

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    I recently stumbled on a great offer for a new t7700. This made me wonder if it could actually be compatible with the m9750?

    Now, i know most of you would say the t7600 is the most powerful processor available for that platform, but has anyone actually tried to put a 77/78 in there?

    They're both Merom family 65nm both run on 1.3v, and basically the only difference is the 77/78's have an 800fsb. So what would happen if you were to put such a processor in there?

    I guess there are a couple of options: 1. The chip doesnt fit 2. The chip fits but the laptop doesnt start 3. The chip fits and fries some other hardware lol and 4. It runs with a downclocked fsb.

    So i am just curious can anyone more experienced shed some light on this?

    Cheers.
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    I am afraid this is a no go. You're stuck with the old Napa processors. The Santa Rosa chipset also uses a different socket, besides higher FSB.
     
  3. MiniKissKool

    MiniKissKool Notebook Consultant

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    Fade TB is right : Napa (T7200, T7400, T7600) is socket M, Santa rosa (T7500, T7700, penryn CPU T8xxx & T9xxx) is socket P...
     
  4. GaMeRxD

    GaMeRxD Notebook Evangelist

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    i think this is why alienware m9750 is getting obsolete now =(......the highest upgrade is a T7600, which can't even beat T7500 on the santa rosa platform
     
  5. Sir Travis D

    Sir Travis D Notebook Deity

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    The alienware is not obsolete LIAR
    it will be obsolete in 4 years
     
  6. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    It depends on what you are using it for. For gaming it shouldn't be obsolete since it does have very good GPU's. For photoshop users the 2.0Ghz is a tad obsolete but it is still a great laptop.
     
  7. Sir Travis D

    Sir Travis D Notebook Deity

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    I've used photoshop on a 1.5ghz single core at 5000x6000 pictures and it worked OK, not great but it worked
     
  8. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yea I'm using the 2.0Ghz C2D on 19,000x9,000 resolution pictures and I'll say that it takes forever to get some things done. On a lower resolution it is fine though.
     
  9. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    in terms of what's available now. it's a tad behind.

    I mean it's behind more than 2 gen in terms of processors. and 1 gen in terms of GPU's.

    It can hold it's own.

    My xps m1710 I got 2 years ago. is a tad better in terms of performance than what you just got. I sold it and got a Clevo.

    It had a 7900gtx oc'd to 650/800, and a 7600g processor overclocked.

    It was dated in terms of what's available now. --and I'm not even talking bleeding edge either.

    you came late to the game. you still have a nice notebook though.
     
  10. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    It was behind when it was released and it's definitely behind and slower than what you get now.
     
  11. Levenly

    Levenly Grappling Deity

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    fade to black, it seems that you just hate this notebook. all i ever see you do is badmouth it. it's a laptop man.
     
  12. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    No, I don't hate it. I like the design, but it's an old notebook. Not worth buying I might add (unless you buy it just to look at it).
     
  13. Levenly

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    value is determined by the person looking at it. i bought it last year before they announced their new line of notebooks. it was an sli notebook with good dx9 cards. nothing optimizes dx10 to where i would burn extra money on dx10 cards, though, it was just the 8700m cards at the time so there weren't many options. i don't do too much hard processing (a bit of programming for my CpE degree, and the occasional photoshop / illustrator project). modern gaming is more gpu intensive, so i wanted something to play the games that i play on a good level, and it performs great. your average gamer / computer user isn't going to upgrade their computer every 1-2 years. i was coming from a desktop with an athlon 64 3500+, so a t7200 is much better than what i had. also going from the geforce fx 5700LE card to sli 7950gtx cards, there was gigantic improvements.

    for me, the notebook was a very good investment (as i purposely took out a loan so i could build up some credit, so i get a double bonus).

    what i'm saying is the notebook performs very well, and it will for a while. sure in 3 years you won't play all the new games on max, but neither would sli 8800's combined with the new platform. granted it isn't the FASTEST thing out there, but it's still very fast. in 2 more months, intel might release a new chip that isn't compatible with todays notebooks, making them no longer cutting edge. if you're looking for a good 17 inch sli notebook for under 2 grand, the m9750 is still a good investment.
     
  14. Slideworks

    Slideworks Notebook Enthusiast

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    Amen to that one Levenly. The m9750 is a Great performer and a very respectable platform still. It may not be the latest and greatest but it is very stable and rock solid. It may not be the most advanced thing out there, but really, name any computer that is cutting edge even 3 months past its inital release date. The whole nature of computers is that every 3-4 months, some better and faster comes along. This whole culture of "is my stuff the fastest out there" is analogous to someone trading in their car every year because the next years model has 2-3 more hp and bigger cup holders.

    just my 2 cents.....flame away.
     
  15. Sir Travis D

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    Nobody buys it to (edit: not) look at it? This laptop is the cheapest laptop I could get with a 512mb graphics card and a dual core processor. For $1700, I got the ability to have two hard drives, sli, and looks.
     
  16. GaMeRxD

    GaMeRxD Notebook Evangelist

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    However,
    the processor can only reach a max of T7600 2.33GHZ....and the bus speed...did u check it out? its like 667mhz...compared to the ones today...it IS obsolete
     
  17. Levenly

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    yeah but you won't even realize the difference in speed unless you're doing hard processing. if you're crunching gigantic numbers, or building your own OS, or doing intensive photo and video manipulation (and i mean on a more high quality scale, not adding filters and whatnot to pictures and movies) then you will notice the change. if you're gaming, you're most likely not going to notice the difference.
     
  18. GaMeRxD

    GaMeRxD Notebook Evangelist

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    i would get the alienware m9750, if they lower the processor price and other upgrades....its 1300$ to start..but when you upgrade it the price is pretty ridiculous..
     
  19. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    yes. it's a dead end in terms of upgradeability.

    they are just milking it for all it's worth. as fade said it was released late.

    after m1710, and is dated now. it's fine for performance. but it's end of life.
     
  20. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree that it is at the end of its SALE life. However its USEFULL life is still top notch. Its FPS in current games are really good (equal to one 8800m), its build quality is superb (unlike many other laptops I find, new and old), and its value is good given its current price. Yes the upgrade prices are over the top. But we are educated people here and know how to replace RAM.

    And I'm sorry if this is starting to sound like a flame, as I really respect everyone’s opinion. I just feel that some of the reasons given as to why this laptop is not worth anyone’s time is simply untrue. e.g. - All current mobile platforms run RAM at 677mhz, despite some chip abilities to run at 800mhz.

    Now I agree the Napa 2.3ghz processor is outdated given the prices of santa rosa processors, and this I feel is a real weakness for this laptop, but this does not mean the Napa processors in general are poor performers. Still, this coupled with the lack of 4GB ram support, and no foreseeable upgrade path for the graphics processors and yes you have a laptop that is aging fast. Still, that doesn’t mean that the unique combination of features, power, and price for some configurations of this laptop are to be ignored as having real value.
     
  21. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    at its peak when SLI is working it's best it's equal to one 8800mstock.

    but 18800m works all the time at it's best.

    some games only support single 7950
     
  22. ioaniro

    ioaniro Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey this is not entirely true, you could restate... 1x 8800 works all the time at it's best... on a 17" clevo. On a 15" AW we're still arguing about it :D.
     
  23. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    heh, sorry, ya your right.