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    thermal paste enough to solve x9000 overheating in m15x?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by JonnJon, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. JonnJon

    JonnJon Notebook Geek

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    will thermal paste be enough to solve the overheating then downclocking problem, or will i be needing an extra cooler to do the job?
     
    JonnJon, Jul 25, 2008
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    Svarto Notebook Consultant

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    It has worked for 2 users so far, according to them the "trick" is to use as little as possible. It voids your warranty though if i am not wrong.

    On the other hand other users have also reported it not working, and i think there are more saying it doesnt work than working.
     
    Svarto, Jul 25, 2008
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  3. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Your cpu will not suffer from over-heating unless it is fully-loaded for a while -- because TDP comes more into play when the CPU is under full-load..!!
    Applying AS-5 properly, and connecting a notebook cooler when doing cpu-intensive tasks is what I did when I had installed the X9000 in my Dell D630..!!
     
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  4. JonnJon

    JonnJon Notebook Geek

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    so would getting an m15x with the x9000 be a bad idea?
     
    JonnJon, Jul 25, 2008
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    Unless you are into OCing and stuff, go for a T9300 instead of the X9000....
     
    Andy, Jul 25, 2008
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    JonnJon, Yes getting the m15x with the x9000 would be a bad idea because the thermal environment cant handle it. That has been reported by several users here on NBR that it overheats and downclocks. And using thermal paste is not really a solution as it voids the warranty.

    And due to the overheating/downclocking issues one cant OC the x9000 anyway so one of the points of getting it is lost.
     
    Svarto, Jul 25, 2008
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  7. Qualao

    Qualao Notebook Consultant

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    Do the bios's for the m15 and 17 x support overclocking? Not being able to change the multiplier in the bios would kind of defeat the point of getting an extreme processor.
     
    Qualao, Jul 25, 2008
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    Mystik Notebook Deity

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    no, they do not. you get a 300mhz boost from the CPU and that's all (from the T9300 to the x9000)

    IMO, not worth it.

    There have been VERY FEW that have the T9300 that report similar down clocking issues to those experienced by many x9000 users. the T9300 is the recommendation from many forum users.
     
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    If you undervolt the CPU, it will not downlock. I was having rediculous downclocking problems while playing WoW and I finally decided to undervolt (as Taco had pointed it out that it worked) and indeed it did help. Same performance, ~5-6 degrees cooler.
     
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  10. Mystik

    Mystik Notebook Deity

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    seems kind of asinine to me to have to undervolt your CPU to get what you should expect from it by default. I never really understood the whole OCing and Extreme processors anyways, pay ~$500 more for a few hundred megahertz, so that you can push it even farther, and maybe even fry it. makes no sense to me.... but hey, who am I to judge.

    To each their own. especially with something as personal as your own Laptop.
     
    Mystik, Jul 25, 2008
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    AS5 (Arctic Silver 5) is my preffered non electrically conductive thermal paste.
    But now I have far better results with "Laboratory Liquid PRO". It consists of 100% liquid metal (electrically conductive).
    So this thermal paste may be enough to solve x9000 overheating.

    Multiple test results can be found in the internet.
    http://www.tweakers4u.de/p4cms/media/t4u/image_artikel/05/170/leitwerte.gif
    http://www.in4.pl/recenzje/335/3500 IDLE.JPG
    http://www.dirkvader.de/page/Coollaboratory/temps.gif
    http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/svcompucycle/liqprotemp.gif
    http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/03/19/43802.gif
    http://www.mod-planet.com/modules/subjects/pages/pasty/pasty_stress.jpg
    http://www.modlabs.net/pics/tcompounds/diagall.gif

    My personal experiences validate a leap in cooling performance compared with other thermal pastes.

    Quote:
    "Cool Laboratory Liquid PRO consists of 100% liquid metal - the metal remains liquid at ambient temperature. The Liquid PRO paste has a heat transfer rate over nine times that of conventional thermal compounds!

    Liquid PRO does not contain any non-metallic additives such as silicone. Due to this composition it out performs the best thermal compounds on the market by a factor 9.

    The liquid metal behaves similar to mercury. Application of the thermal compound should be done with a small, lint-free brush to distribute the compound evenly across processor or heat sink. After installation the Liquid PRO will mature in 48 hours. It solidifies at that time and achieves its optimal cooling performance.

    When applying Liquid Metal, a little more care is necessary compared to the application of conventional pastes. If you are inexperienced in dealing with computer hardware you may wish to pick another paste that has less performance and less potential risks.
    Reasons: Liquid PRO is electrically conductive. And it only can be used with copper heatsinks (Do not use it with Aluminium as there will be a chemical reaction).
     
    heinz2005, Aug 16, 2008
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    Just to put things right, the downclocking is solved with the new BIOS. But previous bios' weren't faulty, the cooling system was/is... They lowered the vCore and increased fan speeds with the new bios to make the CPU run cooler!
     
    crizzler, Aug 16, 2008
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