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    2.2ghz Macbook pro + upgrades or 2.4ghz

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by wave, Jul 1, 2007.

  1. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    I will get a Macbook pro sometime next week. I am not a heavy gamer but I do enjoy a game now and then. I dont mind lower settings because I play games for the fun and not for the graphics so much.

    I have pick between the:
    2.2ghz Macbook pro with the 128MB 8600M GT upgraded to 3GB DDR2 and a 250GB 5400rpm WD hard disk (or 200gb 7200rpm disk). for about 1750€

    Or

    2.4ghz Macbook pro with the 256MB 8600M GT with 2gb ram and the standard 160GB hard disk. for about 1850€

    I dont think the CPU speed will make much differance in anything I run. There have been reports that 3GB RAM helps the 8600M GS/GT in the Asus laptops alot. Shouldnt this apply even more to a card limited to 128MB ram? I really would like to get the bigger disk because I could really use the space and I read that it performce pretty well.

    Which laptop would you get?
     
  2. Budding

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    I believe that the extra RAM helps Asus laptops because their graphics card shares RAM with the system, so an increase in RAM would mean a higher possible increase in graphics memory.
    However, OS X does not have turbocache, so unless you Boot Camp, an increase in RAM would not necessarily mean a significant increase in 3D gaming (although it would increase Parallels performance by quite a lot).

    Seeing as you do game, I would recommend the 256MB version of the graphics card, as RAM is dirt cheap nowadays, and you can just get an external HD to satisfy your storage needs (like I have done).

    Do note that the 3GB RAM version means 2 different sticks. I think if you want more RAM, purchasing 2x2GB would be a better option.
     
  3. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    I will be gameing mostly with bootcamp and WinXP yes. There turbocache is supported no?

    Ram might be cheap but a 2gb stick still costs me 75-85€ and if I get the 2.4ghz macbook pro it is already at my max max limit so I wont be getting any more ram or disk space. Atleast not this year. 1GB + 2GB should be fine. Atleast it is for all windows laptops it makes no differance dont think the macbook is different. I know I will be getting the 32bit version of XP for sure so atleast there 3gb is max anyway.
     
  4. ATP

    ATP Notebook Consultant

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    I'd go with the 2.4 ghz version for the reason that ram is upgradable, while video cards and processors are not easily upgradable. If you decide 'man, I really need that extra gig of ram and a 7200 rpm harddrive,' you can always go out and buy them and put them in without a problem. But if, two years down the road, you need a 2.4 ghz processor and more video memory, you're out of luck.
     
  5. thegsrguy

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    I just got the 2.2 yesterday. Frankly, for $500, I don't think an extra 40GB of drive space and a marginally better video card are worth it. I'm not a super-intense gamer; if I was, I'd have a dedicated gaming desktop. I already have a huge 320GB external FireWire drive for backups and other crap too.

    This thing is so fast in Vista and OS X that I don't even see a need for the 2.4GHz. Hell, I'd have taken a 2.0 C2D.

    Take the $500 and get Apple Care, a Mighty Mouse, and a spare battery.
     
  6. Chris27

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    can someone confirm this?
     
  7. Budding

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    Turbocache is supported if you boot camp Windows. It is not supported natively in OS X.
     
  8. ourfinal

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    It's supported in Vista, not XP.
     
  9. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wasnt talking about the Intel Turbo Memory... I was talking about the Nvidia Turbocache where the GPU uses part of the RAM for video ram. This works for both XP and Vista.
     
  10. dark5

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    I'm using XP with my 2.2Ghz MBP and it reports 512MB of dedicated VRAM so I'm going to assume turbocaching works in XP.
     
  11. joshuaLX

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    Isn't Bootcamp the only dual boot program that supports 3D acceleration in XP/Vista? I could be wrong.
     
  12. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    Every dual system has full 3D support. Dual booting a Mac with XP and Vista gives you full directx9/10 support. It is no different from running Windows on a Pc.

    What you are talking about is the lack of DirectX support in Virtual Machines such as VMware and Parallels. This runs Windows inside a window of OSX. Parallels supports directx8 but not fully.
     
  13. joshuaLX

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    I was thinking about Parallels but I couldn't remember the name of it for the life of me.