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    3DMark 06. New notebook line-up (new buyers please submit)

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by cdnalsi, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Hey all!

    Well, now since even the Air got an nVidia chipset, how about we round up some of the 3dMark 06 scores these notebooks get.

    So please, if you've just bought a new Macbook Pro, Macbook, or Air and have installed either XP or Vista, please submit your 3dMark 06 scores:

    - Model
    - CPU
    - RAM
    - nVidia 9400 / 9600
    - Resolution
    - XP / Vista
    - 3dMark 06 score

    Would love it if we'd have everything sum up in this thread.

    Cheers! :D
     
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    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    Scores looks good, so it makes sense for the MBP to have a chip (9600m GT) at a bit over twice the speed of the lower one (9400m GT).

    It will be interesting to see the battery life of using the two chips.

    I will only get the MBP if it gets a higher res screen.
     
  4. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    i have the 9600 GT card and the cpu is 2.53 i could submit one if you like ;)

    Let me install 3dmark program i think i have the vantage one ;)

    Would u mind a vantage score? i dont have that old 2006 version.
     
  5. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    you bought one?
     
  6. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    ok i had no luck with vantage it said my computer does not meet the minimum resolution requirement :(

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    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    [​IMG]

    That is the max resolution i could get for Vista :(

    1280x720p

    that video card is not that good then :(
     
  10. Phil

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    1280*720 is a good resolution for 3d Mark Vantage.
     
  11. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    3d vantage refuses to RUN because it says i dont meet the minimum resolution requirement ??

    Weird i have never seen that before.
     
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    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    I cant wait to see someone else's result :(

    Not really happy with mine but i guess it's a note book so it's ok :(
     
  14. YasirJ

    YasirJ Notebook Consultant

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    aren't you supposed to get near 6k in 3dmark06 with the new MBP? :S
     
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    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks bro i been searching for freaking drivers from nvidia and i couldnt find it. Let me try laptopvideo2go.com but will that void my warranty?
     
  17. Phil

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    No.

    (10 char)
     
  18. tyronne

    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks mate i just updated the new drivers and restarted my laptop.

    the score has gone up to 4484

    Still not that good :( i don't know how others are getting over 6000 with stock standard stuff.
     
  19. YasirJ

    YasirJ Notebook Consultant

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    I'm really disappointed with the 9600gt performance, I don't get why Apple didn't choose the 9650gt which uses the same tdp but is 55nm and scores about 1000 more in 3dmark06, but maybe nvidia didn't have enough availability of that chip, don't know really, still a idiotic move if you ask me.

    I'm pretty certain that early next year somewhere in the first months the MBP will be updated with the 9650gt and a higher res screen.
     
  20. YasirJ

    YasirJ Notebook Consultant

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    Tyrrone test a higer resolution if possible, for example 1280x1024, you shouldn't be getting that low scores, hmm are the others using vista as well?
     
  21. George Benson

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    HI nice score?

    Is that a good score or bad score for next generation 15" ?

    I don't think it is a good score at all.

    By the looks of his desktop icons that's definately Vista. with everything turned off.

    I think he said that is the maximum resolution he could get.
     
  22. Redline

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    4500 in 3DMark06 at 1280x800 res is really quite low for the 9600M GT. Most of the others are closer to 5k at 1280x1024...Looks like Apple has downclocked the 9600M in the new MBP like they did the X1600 in the original MBP two years ago.
     
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    What does this mean by the term "DOWN CLOCKING" ??? is this good or bad news?

    Maybe he could get better score using Interlace instead of Progressive scan.
     
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    It may have to do with the type of RAM the 9600GT in MBP is using.

    I think GPU-Z can tell you whether it's DDR2 or DDR3 on the GPU.

    GPU-z can be downloaded here: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
     
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    chituan Notebook Guru

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    You can have a look at WilliamG's review for reference. He said he got 5800 3dmark 06 on 1280x800 with his 2.53ghz MBP. 4k5 is weirdly low if it is a 9600M GT DDR3.
     
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    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    So then 6000 is a good score?
     
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    Definetely. If the settings are default and resolution is default (1280*800 I believe).

    Did you get 6000?

    could you post a screenshot of GPU-Z?
     
  29. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    I haven't bought mine yet :D
    I still have to sell my old Santa Rosa MBP.

    If I buy the $2,499 Macbook Pro I want it to last me until I can play Diablo III on it, and Starcraft II...

    That's why I'm asking if 6,000 points is a good score...
     
  30. Charivari

    Charivari Notebook Evangelist

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    You have nothing to worry about. I get 4500 3d 06 on my Feb 08 model MBP with the 8600gt 512 and I expect it to play Diablo 3 really well. the 9600gt will be even faster than that (maybe as much as 1/4-1/3 faster) so I woudnt worry about it you will be fine.
     
  31. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Well, then it must be something I'm doing, or the drivers I use, because with mine 8600m GT 256mb DDR3 I always score like 3000-3500 in 3dMark 06, vista, default resolution....
     
  32. Charivari

    Charivari Notebook Evangelist

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    That is a bit strange. Maybe be sure you are running in high performance mode and get the latest drivers (im sure you know this already).

    Even so, dont think you cant run the latest games acceptably even with a 3500 3d mark. I can run crysis on medium with 25fps and that game is a performance hog.
     
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    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Yeah, it's high performance mode, and out of all the laptopvideo2go.com drivers, I've only tried a couple of them, with the same results...

    Yeah, I can play the games I play today just fine, I'm just thinking ahead a bit.

    Say GTA IV, Dead Space, Mirror's Edge.

    I'm not looking at 1920x1200 with 4xAA, not even 1440x900 native res, but still something playable..
     
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    tyronne Notebook Evangelist

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    i dont know how peopple get such high scores when ever i compared anything of mine i alway score pretty low.
     
  35. ltcommander_data

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    You need to make sure you are using the same resolutions. 3DMark06 standard is 1280x1024 which the MBP doesn't support. Instead, 3DMark06 defaults to some lower resolution, probably 1280x800.

    To have comparable results behind need to make sure they aren't in some power save mode, they are using the latest drivers, aren't running unnecessary background apps, and are using a standard resolution. I would recommend 1440x900 since it offers 1.30 million pixels which is comparable to the standard 1280x1024 which has 1.31 million pixels.

    And Apple has always used GDDR3 with their GPUs. Even the low-end HD2400XT in the entry iMac uses GDDR3. They probably get a good price for GDDR3 from Samsung seeing the large amount of flash memory they buy from them, which is why they use it everywhere.
     
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    4500 does seem pretty low. My guess would be it is downclocked - I get over 4100 at 1280x800 (same resolution) with my 8600 GT and DDR2 and most of the difference is in the CPU score (with GPU overclocking and 178 series drivers). You can check the clocks in GPU-z.

    I'm really interested in the 9400M scores, though. The PC Magazine link of 2054 at 1280x800 is interesting - about 25% better than a Radeon HD 3200, so it looks like if the power draws are similar Apple definitely made a good choice going nVIDIA. Notebookcheck has similar scores of a shade over 2000, though it doesn't specify resolution. Would definitely be interested in new MacBook owners posting their scores here.
     
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    Please post a GPU-Z screenshot.

    I thought 1280*800 is the default resolution. Running it in 1440*900 will give a lower score.
     
  38. Xirurg

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    Guys,please,post more results,cos 4500 is too low for it
     
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    I believe 1280x800 is the default resolution for NBR in-house reviews. The 3DMark06 standard/default resolution is suppose to be 1280x1024.
     
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    Any proof to the downclocking? Quite interesting choice if Apple decided to do that, maybe for heating purposes? A GPU-Z comparison with a PC 9600M GT would confirm though.

    Is everyone with the new MBP getting around 4500? Or is it just a select few?
     
  41. Xirurg

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    check out W.G review-couple of our members are reporting ~6k
     
  42. Phil

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    Are you sure about that? I always thought it was 1280*800.

    1280*1024 seems unlikely to me bc many laptops don't even support it.
     
  43. David

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    I believe so... or so I've read
    Check the paragraph beneath the 3dmark06 screen shot
    http://techgage.com/article/in-depth_look_futuremark_3d_mark_06/

    Many others in different forums also seem to agree with the 1280x1024 default resolution, so I was always under the assumption it's the standard. :eek:
    http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=33&threadid=2115246&enterthread=y
    http://www.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73588
    http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=208324
     
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    Ok then I'm probably wrong, I'm kind of new to the gaming world.
     
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    Geez i hate it when people ask for a 1280*1024 3dmark06 bench when the new pro doesnt have enough pixels for that. Unless 100 pixels are going to pop up on the side .....

    I really believe Apple downclocked the GPU to fit it in a 0.93in thick chassis. When we you learn Apple that Performance>Aesthetics??
     
  46. Xirurg

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    ^Proof or that didn't happen :p
     
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    http://www.futuremark.com/companyin...dfs/Reviewers_Guide_For_3DMark06_v1_0.pdf?m=v

    Futuremark's official Reviewer's Guide for 3DMark06 states a 1280x1024 resolution under default settings and those are what should be used for submission to ORB. If 1280x1024 isn't supported on the notebook, it'll drop down to some lower resolution which isn't always consistent. The closest a MBP can get to 1280x1024 (1.31 million pixels) is 1440x900 (1.30 million). And I do believe NBR reviews also use 1280x800 since that's the resolution that most laptops commonly use, despite people complaining about MBP's 1440x900 resolution being low, there are quite a few 15" notebooks using 1280x800.
     
  48. mikespit1

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    I was one of the users that poasted a 5850 3DMark score at 1280 x 800. I was using XP SP3 though. Is it possible that Vista is causing the low scores? Are you sure you have SP1 and all updates? Maybe update DX10?

    PS installing Crysis right now to give it a whirl.
     
  49. Xirurg

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    ya-ya,give us some Crysis results :)
     
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    From experience, 3Dmark06 will score higher on XP than on Vista.
     
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