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    "9 out of 10 dollars spent on computers costing $1,000 and up went to Apple "

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Phil, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Odds are, HP is the top dog. They have a far deeper foothold in the retail sector than Dell. Plus they are the top dog in laptop shipments in general.

    Only a retail shopper would drop 2 grand on a laptop with a one year warranty. I don't get it.
     
  2. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    Macbooks are so expensive, stilysh, powerful, comfortable that dont have right click and not even left click on newer models I had one and THAT was a PAIN. But I LOVED the battery life and display (beautiful quality and sharp colors) of the macbook VERY impresive. :D


    More on topic, in my personal point of view I think that HP is stronger thant apple and DELL, look HP is everywere, it has many lines, cheap but GOOD(compaq), mainstream, ultraportables, gaming, everyday, multimedia, workstations.
     
  3. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    The highest end laptops from the major vendors (HP, Dell and Lenovo) are all business grade laptops, which are not included in any of these sales figures as they only consider consumer laptops, in which none of the big vendors have a premium line comparable to Apple's Macbook Pro. Dell's Alienware is still too niche (17" behemoths) and the XPS doesn't command a premium as high as the MBPs. HP's HDX suffers the same fate as well and they have no boutique appeal, even less so now that they have committed Voodoo suicide.
     
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    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    HP has a pretty strong and diversified line up, but they severely lack a premium range with boutique appeal. The HDX doesn't count as it has lacklustre specifications and a depressed price. HP has a huge volume due to the lower end models it sells, but they aren't making good margins on those. They do make it up by pushing a lot more while Dell was distracted by its restructuring. HP has no high end consumer gaming products in its line up currently, after having killed Voodoo.

    However, if we turn to the enterprise space, suddenly, we'll see HP and Dell shifting in far greater quantities than Apple and these aren't just regular cheap units. These include high end workstations and they definitely sell more than Apple's MBPs. The problem, again, is that, these are often sold at significant discounts as part of their corporate contracts.

    Consumers are also pretty uneducated in PCs in general. Carry a $3000 HP workstation into a lecture hall and still it will be regarded as another cheap HP you can buy at BB (which is not true because you can't buy the best HP laptops from retail), while using an actually "cheap" by comparison $1500 Macbook Pro and you will get all the attention because it is not an HP. The PC companies are so entrenched in their practices of separating their business and consumer lines so distinctly that it is actually hurting their brands. HP is supposed to make Compaq cheap, but in the process, have made themselves cheap as well.
     
  5. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    they have left and right click on all macs... I think you meant actual buttons? I think the left and right click on the trackpads on Macbooks are awesome and so much better than having physical buttons... but you can always plug in a mouse and use 20 buttons if you want.
     
  6. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Agreed. I couldn't use any notebook without an external keyboard and mouse. Besides, don't you hold control + click to get the right click? I don't remember (since I never use it :p).
     
  7. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    you CAN use Ctrl click for right click... but thats really an old way of doing it. For years Macs have had a built in ability to right click. On a trackpad you can just use 2 finger tap, or two fingers touching and click the button, and it does a right click. On desktops they went over to the Mighty Mouse that you can click the left side for a left click.
     
  8. Jervis961

    Jervis961 Hall monitor

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    I had to use a Toshiba notebook at work today and it drove me nuts. They didn't have a mouse hooked up so I had to use the tiny (really it was miniscule) touchpad. I kept trying to use multi-touch for the first hour until I got reacquainted. Mac has the best touch pad.

    As to the topic, HP is most likely the king of under $1000 retail.
     
  9. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, the plus side about all this is that the Apple company is going to be around to support its customers for a while. Imagine if it crashed and burned. Millions of customers would be left in the dark and would have to wait on the open source version of OSX to be released to feel whole again.
     
  10. Xhibit

    Xhibit Notebook Evangelist

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    Kind of pointless because higher end laptops from HP/Dell/Lenovo are all considered as business computers and not consumer models. Elitebooks/Precisions and probably even half of dells bought by consumers like Latitudes and vostros probably weren't included. A more accurate estimate would be 50%, excluding online and custom built pcs, I think I read an figure like that somewhere. However I would expect to be high obviously because there is no mac under $1000.
     
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    I don't think the issue is with Apple going away anytime soon.

    I think the issue is with the one year warranties for a $2K laptop.
     
  12. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    this news is about as true as denial of some celeb plastic boob jobs

    whichever the research company it was need to fire the analyst and revise the criteria of measurement.
     
  13. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    The bigger issue is really needing even that year's warranty.

    The next sentence is n't-mangle-worthy...

    ...but I don't have a single Mac, which didn't already arrive with a minor issue which I didn't bother to get looked at, which hasn't developed a fault sometime within the year.

    If I coddled them a little more and forgave them their instability of operation outside the 12-22C range as many Apple owners clearly do, perhaps it wouldn't be as big an issue... but certainly of the 'Pro' models, I reasonably expect them to 'just work' without treating them like the Crown Jewels.
     
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