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    Benchmarks, bootcamp vs. parallels & fusion?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by talin, May 23, 2008.

  1. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Hello,
    I'm seriously interested in getting a mac, I've been searching here and google about windows games benchmarks and can't really find anything.
    Can someone please either run some benchmarks and post the results, or point me to a site that has them? The most I've been able to find is 3dmark scores, but I'd like to see more. :)
    Thanks for any help you can offer. :)
     
  2. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    bootcamp offers the best GPU performance. parallel is more than 50% slower
     
  3. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    That's fine, I'd still like to see some solid numbers if possible. :)
     
  4. cathy

    cathy Notebook Evangelist

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    Boot camp runs Windows as well as any other PC. I get 5302 in 3DMark06 at 1280x1024, with my GPU overclocked to 600/900 in Windows XP.
     
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  6. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Thanks, but those are all benchmarks in bootcamp. I only wanted to compare bootcamp to parallels or fusion performance...
     
  7. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Well, I know you might want to see some 'hard numbers', but consider this:

    Bootcamp is the only way to run Windows natively on a Mac.
    Parallels and fusion are emulators.
     
  8. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Why? It's going to be slower. Much, much slower in fact.

    In Boot Camp with Windows XP, I can play Half-Life 2 at my MBP's native resolution (1440x900) with max graphic settings in DirectX 9 mode with anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. Performance is good. Not great, but exactly what you might expect from any Windows-based notebook with similar specifications.

    Using Crossover (which uses emulation just like Parallels or Fusion), HL2 has several graphical glitches and is barely playable at 1024x768, no AA or AF, with most graphic options turned down or off.
     
  9. HLdan

    HLdan Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's not "much much" slower. Come on, Parallels and VMWare are only about a 5% drop in speed however they are not good at all for playing those 3D games which is what Bootcamp is for but don't exaggerate the situation. :p
     
  10. Nirvana

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    @hldan, i think it's more than 5% compare compare to bootcamp. single system vs. dual systems at a time?
     
  11. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Maybe slower, but great for older games, which is perfect for me. That's why I'd like to see...
     
  12. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    I should have been more clear. My biggest concern is compatibility. I have only old games, my newest being Battlefield 2, and I know that one plays in vista with modern hardware just fine. That's the newest game I have, and I have no plans to buy any more in the near or even late future.
    I have one game in particular, Klingon Academy, from 2000, that is very picky about new hardware/OS's, so if I were to switch to a mac, compatibility is important to me.
    I don't game so much any more, but I'd still like to be able to play now and then. :)
    As far as I can see, parallels for example, emulates an older video card, which would be great for KA. It's not a demanding game at all (to today's standards), and I would feel much more comfortable getting a mac a little later (when montevina + geforce 9 series is released), than having to buy a mac right now (which isn't possible right now :() and hope that the game will be compatible with a geforce 8 in bootcamp + windows.
    I don't need a screaming 200 fps in my games, so if there's some slow down (which certainly there is with virtualization), than I'm happy to us a VM instead. :) (Again, for compatibility reasons).
    :)
     
  13. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just doing a bit of research on KA, from what I've been reading, its issues are related more to the operating system it tries to run on versus the hardware running said OS. Even if you used Windows XP through a VM on OS X, you are still very likely to experience problems.

    However, it appears as if KA will work with Wine, which as you're probably aware, is the DirectX emulator for Linux. Crossover Mac and Crossover Games by the same developer, use a version of Wine that works on OS X. KA might very well work in that environment, though there's no guarantee.

    To be honest, your best bet might be to purchase a Windows laptop and dual boot with Linux. Here is a link to the Wine AppDB with a bit more information about running KA on Linux. Looks like versions of Ubuntu have run it with at least a little bit of success.
     
  14. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Well, I really want to switch to mac, but be able to play some windows games now and then. :)
    From experimenting, I've found that the problems with KA are drivers.
    The game only plays in XP with the 80x series nvidia drivers, any higher and compatibility problems arise. :(
    Secondly, 80 series for the 7900GS are not available in Vista, and I've tried different sets and it doesn't work. :(
    But I'm definitely switching to mac, just hope I can get the game to run.

    But I'm still interested in finding benchmarks.... :( :rolleyes: