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    Bought 2 new SSD's. Which to use for new Macbook Pro?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by stylinexpat, May 18, 2010.

  1. stylinexpat

    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    I recently bought a new Lenovo X201s and am getting a new Macbook pro 13" this week. I had ordered 2 new SSD's this week. I got a new Intel 160GB G2 SSD and a new Vertex 2 SSD 100GB. Which one would be better to use in in the Macbook Pro and which one would be better to use in the X201s?

    Thoughts and opinions..? :confused:
     
  2. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

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    there is no one answer.

    which computer do you plan on using the most?
    the computer you use the most might be the computer who's space gets used up the fastest. also considering the Intel is a better drive, you'll be able to appreciate it more if it's in the computer you use the most. maybe.

    which computer will house more software?
    that may be your most important factor. If you're running any software suites that are very large in size on one of the OSes but not the other, I'd recommend leaning towards putting the bigger SSD in that computer. if the total amount of software will be relatively equal, then this factor doesn't really matter.

    do you plan on storing a lot of media (music, music) on one computer more than another?

    music and movies are the most space-consuming files you'll ever put on your computer. if you plan on using one computer for this more than another, that computer should get the bigger HDD.

    do you plan on dual-booting on either system?
    if you plan on dual-booting, that may supersede any other factor. you'll want to use the 160GB HDD in which ever computer you plan to dual-boot from, as you'd feel the space pinch much sooner if splitting up a 100GB SSD. Also consider that most SSD's work best when less than 75% filled and you're talking about only 70GB that are really usable before performance loss. that's just not enough space for 2 large OSes and a meaningful amount of software.
     
  3. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    lol you had to ask? it's a mac...

    (ok, I've had my fun)

    I'd put the intel in the computer you will use the most.
     
  4. stylinexpat

    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    As for space wise I won't be putting too much stuff on either one as I use my home desktop computer for that. Mainly concerned with which SSD will work better in which laptop. Was thinking to put the Intel one in the Thinkpad and Vertex 2 one in the Macbook. Thoughts...??

    I suppose though since I will have more music and pictures in the Macbook that it would be better to put the Intel SSD in the Macbook instead of the Thinkpad :confused: Looking for better performance numbers. I had a regular Vertex SSD in my older Macbook Pro and it was great.

    Anyone here install an Intel SSD 160GB G2 in their new Macbook Pro yet?
     
  5. tenderidol

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    I am not sure whether Vertex 2 has "garbage collection" or not. If it does, then put that in the Macbook, because you'll benefit from it. Since the Intel drive doesn't have this function, it will be fine in the Thinkpad under Windows 7 and TRIM. If you put the Intel in the Macbook, try not to fill it up to its ears :)
     
  6. stylinexpat

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    I usually try and keep most of my stuff on an external drive or USB device to keep my laptops running free and clear. The Macbook Pro usually uses the most space due to Photos and Itunes. I doubt I think the most I will use is 80GB on the Macbook and probably 30GB on the Thinkpad.

    I already go my Vertex 2 SSD and should have my Intel SSD within the next few days. Still debating on which one to place in which laptop..
     
  7. Phil

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    It's very unlikely you will notice any performance difference during normal usage.

    However the Vertex 2 writes a lot faster and uses significantly less power.
     
  8. stylinexpat

    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    The Vertex 2 uses siginificantly less power than what..? Older regular Vertex SSD,Intel SSD or the regular 7200 RPM HDD?
     
  9. tenderidol

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    After doing a bit of reading on OCZ forums, it appears that Vertex 2 doesn't have garbage collection. In this case, from the maintenance point of view, putting the Intel drive in MBP makes more sense, because it is bigger and you'll have plenty of space left for it to operate "healthy". Vertex 2 in the Thinkpad should be fine even if you fill most of the 100GB, because you'll benefit from TRIM. However, if you put the Vertex in MBP, you'll have only 20% space and no GC.

    If it were me, I'd put the Intel 160GB in MBP and Vertex 100GB in Thinkpad.
     
  10. Phil

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    My reply was an answer to your start post. The answer is there ;)
     
  11. stylinexpat

    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    I ended up installing the Vertex 2 SSD in my new Macbook Pro 13". I bought a new 13" Macbook Pro with the 2.66 Processor. Here are some test results.
     

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    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    My Macbook Pro takes about 25 seconds to boot from the time I hit the power button till everything boots up. I was actually expecting better times. My Older 15" Macbook Pro with had a 2.53 Intel Processor in it with 6MB Cache and used the older Vertex 120GB SSD booted up in the same time so there does not seem to be any performance gains from boot times so far even though the read and write times of this new Vertex 2 SSD are supposed to be much higher and while the new Mac OS Leopard is supposed to boot faster than the older OS :confused:
     
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    i would have put the intel one in the mac if i were in your place. The mac has a more powerful gpu and if you want some casual gaming, then more hd space would be required for bootcamping.
     
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    I am now thinking about getting another Vertex 2 SSD and run raid. I don't use the DVD these days.
     
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    i dont know if the mac can run in raid 1, but you can remove your dvd drive and put the second one there and use it as a second drive(raid 0).
     
  17. stylinexpat

    stylinexpat Notebook Evangelist

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    Out of the blue now it is really freakin quick. Shutdown is now about 1-2 seconds and full boot is in 15 seconds.

    YouTube - MVI_2501.AVI
     
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    that's crazy!!!very nice!!I will certainly buy one when i have enough cash..
     
  19. tenderidol

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    That looks just like what I get with the 160GB X25G2 ;)
     
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    Nice.. I hope that 160 GB Intel SSD will get me the same boot times in my X201s :confused:
     
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    Am planning on getting a second Vertex 2 SSD installed instead of the DVD Rom player that comes with e Macbook Pro and running raid. Any thoughts? Anyone here running raid on their Macbook Pro? If so, did battery usage consumption change much?
     
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    Just got my second Vertex 2 SSD installed in my Macbook Pro. The numbers are pretty damn nice :D
    You can see the numbers running with just 1 Vertex 2 SSD and with raid :D
     

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    ha. yea, that's how my Intel 160 boots. nuts.

    Windows also boots lightning quick.
     
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    Now that I am running raid the 16 second boot times are no longer the same :( It now takes about 22-23 seconds to boot running raid. Seems faster once booted but boot up times are slower than they were when I wasn't running raid.

    Am now wondering how much less battery life I will get running raid with these 2 Vertex 2 SSD's.. :confused:
     
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    The boot times are due to loading up the extra RAID drivers. Battery life depends on how much power your system is drawing, for example, my system on idle and basic usage is around 14-16W. The SSD would be <1W, so the battery life might drop by like ~6%. If your system drew 20W on idle or 10W, the values would obviously be different by ~4% and ~9% respectively.
     
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    I am not sure yet but I think my battery life time is down by about 10% :confused: I'm wondering if it would have been better to set up the DVD slot with a SSD as a secondary HDD/SSD instead of running raid :confused: