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    Do you think the new MacBook Pro is Overpriced?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by xAMDvsIntelx, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. Central

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    If only Apple had made it 10-15mm thicker and dropped the price £800 or so...
     
  2. Oscarine

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    Its not a terrible price all things considered especially when comparing it to other premium brands like Lenovo, Sony etc, comparing a Mac to an Acer or Dell just isn't fair.. However a friend of mine a graphics arts guy here at Rutgers bought a Dell after using Mac's for 8 years because of price premiums /shrug
     
  3. otaku

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    I don't care to pay such a premium for a white case with an apple on it (even if it is nice looking) I mean I could save 1,000 getting an MSI with the same graphics card, camera, processor, ram etc. Sony is a ripoff as well. Lenovo I can sort of see spending the money as the build quality and service is excellent but they to are still technically expensive and overpriced.
     
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    For £1429 they are charging in the uk....... I would pay that but they should increase the spec to 100gb hard drive and 1gb ram.

    So IMO it is overpriced.
     
  5. RadcomTxx

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    the 2.0ghz model has the 100gig drive and 1 gig ram
     
  6. darrensen

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    For the 2gb model the price jumps to a massive £1779. I could get an Asus W3J for £1200
     
  7. dragonesse

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    I think the educational prices are in the ballpark of being reasonable, but the regular retail prices are ridiculous.
     
  8. matt_h1

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    Its 3400 AUD here which is ridiculous for a fire hazzard.
     
  9. RadcomTxx

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    who says it is a fire hazard?
     
  10. darrensen

    darrensen Notebook Consultant

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    LOL Mac fanboys always get touchy when you take a dig at their kit.

    There's been a couple of issues with the Magsafe thats all.
     
  11. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I find it a tad overpriced, but realistically speaking, its worth every penny.
     
  12. TheUndertow

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    Personally - I find it to be overpriced - approx. $2k for a 1.83 duo core, 128MB gfx card and 512MB RAM - please. I don't necessarily think it's conspicuously priced, but I do think it's overpriced verses even the best competition.

    It's kind of like an iPOD in that sense.
     
  13. matt_h1

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    speakers to, a guys speaker caught on fire and the magsafe thing to.
     
  14. TheUndertow

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    ^ Can you even imagine having to worry about that with your family in the house?

    I don't think it's a widespread issue, but it doesn't have to be...it creates f.u.d. (fear, uncertainty, doubt) and probably has swayed a number of people from either purchasing one or delaying their decision.
     
  15. cy007

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    With the educational discount, it isn't overpriced. I can get a Macbook Pro for $2299 w/ 3 year warranty. Considering its high quality parts and metallic finish that gives it a class of its own, let's face it. You really can't expect to pay less. I mean, just look at the competition. Sony, Toshiba, and HP used to be great manufacturers which were reputable for their solid build and design, but now, apart from business machines, all are built as flimsy as ever to accomodate a higher profit. Besides, their similarly speced machines (if there were any) would be more expensive than the Macbook Pro anyway.
    The Macbook Pro's well worth the price if you ask me... that is, if you don't have to rely on Windows. :p
     
  16. TheUndertow

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    ^ I agree w/ most of that - Sony and Toshiba are both up there price wise as well (and arguably of "lesser" quality).
     
  17. RadcomTxx

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    If people let two bad machines out of how many thousands already built cause them to not buy a great machine, its there loss. If they are that easily swayed, then they shouldn't buy things.
     
  18. matt_h1

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    The magsafe thing has happened to a few people.
     
  19. TheUndertow

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    I think it's more the magnitude of the problem (or the perceived magnitude) that is most damaging...I mean - neither fire has caused damage outside of the unit (as far as I know), but it is ever did, that would be catastrophic.

    In a sense it's like playing Russian roulette - the chances are slim but the stakes are high.

    With all that said, who knows what is causing the issue...if it's "real" (ie - not being staged)...etc...etc.

    I don't disagree that it's a very appealing unit (I've never been an Apple guy but I've given serious thought to the MBPs) but there are other very appealing options as well (Asus to name one), that don't pose a potential fire hazard.
     
  20. xAMDvsIntelx

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    I wouldn't say ALL MBPs are a fire-hazard - maybe just the models that weren't revised for heat issues are. I personally think these machines run hot though - hopefully Apple can work the heat issue because I'm seriously thinking about getting an Apple as my next notebook.
     
  21. matt_h1

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    At my local apple shop the MBP is $4000 so yeah a tad overpriced.
     
  22. firestarter

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    The Dual-Boot feature is a definite icing on the Apple cake which is why my next notebook is going to be Apple. Great construction and best of both software worlds!
     
  23. TheRealist

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    For us who use the Win-version of notebooks this new apple notebook is not at all overpriced it is more or less , lets say ... OUTRAGOUSLY OVERPRICED , however to be fair to the appletts (people who are addicted to apple pc's)
    this 17" notebook's price is close to the 15" notebook price , therfore it is underpriced and from that it should be raised at least several hundred more dollars (USA $), just to put it all in real world perspective , or whatever the appletts addiction will allow him or her to pay.One more thing Steve Jobs whats up with this X1600 in this notebook how about a real video card like the X1800 ???


    Bill G.:centrino:
     
  24. Hoony

    Hoony Notebook Enthusiast

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    even if it is overpriced u gotta say when u take it all in its worth
    BTW how do you qualify for the education discount??
    is it available only in U.S coz im very far from there
    I live in Male', Republic of Maldives
    If anyone doesnt know where it is look on the world map
    it is a country under India, to the left of Sri Lanka, marked as few dots on the map
    dots are how big this small country is yuk yuk
     
  25. yassarian

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    lol I'm also somewhat baffled at the inclusion of the x1600. Not so much that they should put in a more powerful card, but why would you put in a card and underclock it (both core and memory), by a whooping 35%??!! It's pretty obvious that the only reason that card is in it is for the bragging rights -- "we have the x1600!" The x1600 is a great laptop card offering decent performance, but what Apple failed to disclose is it's 35% slower than the ATI manufacturer's spec. Seems kinda shady to me, then again, shady marketing has always been a trademark of Mr. Job's reality-distortion field. :p

    If would be nice to have a good explination on that -- heat problem? Battery problem? What's the reason for the *severe* underclock? Maybe that is one of the reasons Apple is so reluctant to offer XP support for the Macs -- notice that not long after Bootcamp was offered, this was discoverered in the XP environment, probably to Apple's chargrin.

    As to is the MBP overpriced -- of course it is, it's an APPLE. :D What's interesting is that if a company like Dell were to underclock the gpu in their laptop by 35% without making an announcement, the bashing that follows would have been pretty heavy. With Apple -- most loyal fans probably aren't even aware of it -- as there probably isn't a very easy way to figure those stuff out from OSX...

    cheers,

    yass
     
  26. Hoony

    Hoony Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone got any news on the student discount for non-us peope
    also do u know any websites which ship to Republic of Maldives
    wud apreciate help
     
  27. Beidomon

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    Not sure if you can get the discount, did you try going to the apple website and seeing if they will ship to you? You can go to the Apple.com store and go to the education store on the right side of the website and pick that you are a student. Then try put it in the cart and see if they will ship out of the country.
     
  28. fenix

    fenix Notebook Consultant

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    Why does this say the last post was today on the thread, but inside it says the last post was on 05-06-2006.....
     
  29. Gautam

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    I think that it is somewhat overpriced - especially for how little macbooks can be upgraded. I also think its natural that they are overpriced, because they sell so much less. Then again, I think that even if Apple captured a larger market share (think of iPod) they still would not lower the price. You pay for aesthetics.
     
  30. ProfessorChaos

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    I agree but think of the PC counterparts...the Macbook has so much attention because it's competitively priced(relatively) with other laptops in the price range. But not the MBP. An Asus W3J which IMO has even greater build quality than the MBP with better specs for less cost(although it's a 14").

    Point is...it's not competitive within it's price range.
     
  31. ArmanSLR

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    I would take a 15.4" MBP in a secound over the Asus W3J, I love how the macbook pro looks!
     
  32. xbandaidx

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    I saw that too, something messed up there.

    I would take the MBP over the Asus as well, not because of spec wise because of which one runs OS X. However, I feel the quality of MBP is awesome anyhow.
     
  33. ProfessorChaos

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    Ofcourse, I would too...but I'm just saying....money doesn't grow on trees and I would love to have the MBP a few hundred $ cheaper because the specs aren't the best in class either...basically paying a $300 premium on looks...sure I love how it looks but it still doesn't explain the price gouging by Apple.

    If they want to differentiate from the regular MB...then please make the specs worth the upgrade...bigger screen, aluminum and x1600 video card for $600+
     
  34. ArmanSLR

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    Well, yeah I understand what you mean but I think Apple has always been interested in the looks in their products, and that Apple has never been cheap, I mean for a 30 GB Video Player 300 bucks? You can get something for cheaper that is better always, but I think Apple knows people will buy their products based on looks, I fell in love with the Macbook, and the MBP is just like a dream, I would never see my self paying 2,000 for a MBP, if they were 1800 before student discounts, maybe I would sell my psp and get one instead of a Macbook, but Apple has always been selling their products for a premium.
    ~Arman
     
  35. ProfessorChaos

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    I love to use Apple's Pro applications like FCP, Motion and Soundtrack Pro. I use them as much as I can at school on the dual G5's that they use. But it's a **** shame that you pay for looks as I would definately get it at $1800 before student discounts..but thats not the case. After producing a couple of short films and authoring a bunch of DVD's with DVD SP4, I can't shy away from Apple software. It's just the cost of the hardware that hurts the most because I can get educational licensing from the school library. Hopefully before the Ipod promo expires Apple will have released the Merom MBP because atleast there is SOME compensation for the extra $$$. A Dual Layer DVD burner would be a plus too...and FW800 to a lesser extent.
     
  36. xbandaidx

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    I don't think most of it has to do with looks, but as well as they know their products have MANY assessories out there, for anything they have such as the iPod, its insane how many companies are coming out with stuff for it, not to mention more and more car manufacturers are making their cars iPod ready.
     
  37. cashmonee

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    Whenever somebody votes in the poll it resets it's newness. So somebody probably voted recently.
     
  38. hollownail

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    Aye, I believe they are a bit overpriced. They should roughly be about 200 bucks cheaper. You are paying for style and the use of OSX. And good (more often than not) tech support.
    I'm hoping with the new revision (with merom) that we can get some more options. Not sure why a PRO machine doesn't have FW800...
     
  39. Sneaky_Chopsticks

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    It's fine in my opinion. Right now, the new one with dx 10 and santa rosa is just right.

    If you're a student at a college, you can apply for a student discount and get -$200 off computers.lol it's true.
     
  40. iwantamac

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    Not to mention that there's pretty much no bloatware...iWork trial and MS Office trial. Maybe .mac if you consider that bloatware.
     
  41. mr.pibb

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    extremely overpriced. all the iLife crap that comes with it is bloatware as far as i'm concerned
     
  42. teknerd122

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    iLife is awesome. At least, iPhoto is awesome. =P I think it's just a lil overpriced since the vid card in each needs 2x as much memory to be reasonable. Still, the card is hot and the memory that it does have is gddr3...and you really can't get anything close to these features in such a package on the PC side. However, *sigh*, OneNote is such an awesome program that I don't think an Apple laptop is in the cards.
     
  43. matt_h1

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    I feel it is overpriced but its apple, you have to expect that. It is a very good machine, If its build quality lasts then its a good deal, the main drawback for me is alot of laptops are now coming with 2 and 3 year warranties as standard, here I have to pay $500 to get the extended warranty which is kinda rough.
     
  44. teknerd122

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    ^^^Or get a credit card that will extend the 1-year warranty for free!
     
  45. knightfall

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    All visa and mastercard extend 1-year automatically. ;)
     
  46. apes

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    Ok, I apologize if I'm repeating anything, but admittedly I have not read this entire thread. My son has been bugging me for a MB or MBP for some time now and I have decided to buy him one, I have used this forum for most of my research (thank you everyone). Today I went to an Apple store to do some hands on research and ask some questions (not to buy today). After that expierence I'm not only going to get my son one but I will buy one for myself also. Anyone who is within 25 miles of a store needs to do themselves a favor and go, I think if they do they will most certainly buy. The salesKID, spent a 1/2 hour with me (thats all I had time for) and went over all my questions plus what he thought was important. I was blown away buy some of the features. Now maybe I'm just a rookie and windows has some these features, but I never knew about them.
    In short, yes a MB is more money, but worth every penny. I hope I still feel this way after I buy>
     
  47. HLdan

    HLdan Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi just curious, why not try Circus Ponies notebook. It's been available for years on the Mac and I saw the latest version at Macworld 07. A lot of the same functionality as MS One Note. The only thing I saw different was One Note's integration with Outlook. Do you need that? Or is there something different about it that you need? One note is $79.00 and Notebook is $49.00.
    http://www.circusponies.com/
    P.S you can also try Google Notebook which is free. Works with OSX but you have to use Firefox. Safari support ain't happenin' yet.
    I'm just recommending these apps because too many times the world gets hung up on Microsoft as if it's the only solution and it's really not.
     
  48. bmwrob

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    :D

    Like son, like father . . . congrats!
     
  49. Homer_Jay_Thompson

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    Apple laptops are good laptops, but they are very overpriced. Sony and ASUS have the same problem.
     
  50. taelrak

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    So do HP business laptops, and Thinkpads...and...

    Actually, it's just that Dell is underpriced :p
     
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