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    Frustrated Apple User....

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by andrewt1187, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. andrewt1187

    andrewt1187 Notebook Consultant

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    Leopard. Thats all I can say. It has a lot of great features, but the problems overwhelm them. What problems? Well, for starters: instead of studying for finals, I'm in my university's computer lab hooked up to an Apple keyboard and mouse because my MBP's keyboard and trackpad have decided to become unresponsive. I need to reinstall Tiger because my laptop is now completely unusable. I tried the 'fixes' (reseting the PRAM and stuff did not work). This is a documented problem that only occurs in Leopard. COME ON APPLE! You make what? 5 laptops that run Leopard. The Macbook Pro is the flagship Apple laptop. You would think SOMEONE would've caught this bug in the beta testing process.

    Oh well. My friend (MB user) always joke about how Apples 'just work.' We kept saying that while our Leopard installs froze the first time we booted up (for both of us).

    Chalk up one in the disillusioned Mac user category.
     
  2. Seth Oriath

    Seth Oriath Notebook Consultant

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    I've yet to see ANY complaints about the keyboard and trackpad not working in Leopard. I think something else is the culprit.
     
  3. Budding

    Budding Notebook Virtuoso

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    Have you installed a legal retail copy of Leopard?
    If you have, then your keyboard and trackpad not working would be a hardware problem. If you Mac is still within warranty period, bring it in to Apple and have it fixed.
     
  4. Xander

    Xander Paranoid Android

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  5. andrewt1187

    andrewt1187 Notebook Consultant

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    As I said, this is completely a software problem. There are forum threads all of over the web (thanks Xander) discussing the problem. People with MBPs that are hours old (no other software) get the problem. It is not a hardware issue.

    Yes, this is a copy of Leopard I got from my university.
     
  6. andrewt1187

    andrewt1187 Notebook Consultant

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    Installed Tiger. No problems so far.
     
  7. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    It is a known issue. Apple recognizes it and is promising a fix. Although that is not much help for those with the problem and no way around it.
     
  8. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Didn't they fix that with 10.5.1?
     
  9. Xander

    Xander Paranoid Android

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    Laptops suffer battery, keyboard issues with Leopard
     
  10. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Whoops. Anyways, I don't have any issues at all with Leopard...
     
  11. andrewt1187

    andrewt1187 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, I had 10.5.1 and tried the PRAM reset trick. It didn't work.
     
  12. GeorgineVJ

    GeorgineVJ Notebook Consultant

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    Can I just say that I'm SOOOOO glad I didn't switch? Sorry for your troubles, OP, and shame on you, Apple! I expect better.
     
  13. HLdan

    HLdan Notebook Virtuoso

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    Did you actually do a clean install which includes a full erase and install of Leopard?
     
  14. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    consider yourself very unlucky, as a massive majority of users have absolutely no problem with Leopard whatsoever.

    it is a software issue, but I don't think it is an Apple software issue, as it doesn't really make any sense that Leopard runs perfectly fine on my machine, even an upgrade install.

    and doesn't work correctly on your machine. I bet a clean install of Leopard would indeed solve the problem. if not, then again, consider yourself unlucky.

    this is why I hate the internet, people who never saw this post, could go into Apple, pick up a copy of Leopard, never have one issue, and never even know anyone had an issue at all, and be perfectly happy.
     
  15. Seth Oriath

    Seth Oriath Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with circa86, with the limited hardware set that Apple has, there's no way that it could be working on the majority of systems and, because it's not working on yours, somehow be a problem with Leopard.

    Like I said, something else is the culprit. A complete, clean reinstall is necessary, then updating, then slowly reinstalling all software (install, restart, install, restart), and see if one gives you trouble.
     
  16. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I understand where you are coming from, but clearly this probably should have been caught before release. It seems enough people have the issue that this probably should have turned up in beta testing. Also, don't forget that just because 2 people each have a MacBook does not mean they have the same hardware. Look at hard drives, mine has a Fujitsu I believe, many have Seagates. It is very possible that the bad interaction is Leopard with a certain batch of keyboard parts.
     
  17. Eallan

    Eallan Notebook Consultant

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    i had a few leopard issues as well. I had to archive and install.

    I'm a little forgiving because most of the time I love the OS.

    Hopefully some more patches are on the way. I had two kernal panics yesterday...