Is it worth the price?

^ I assumed it would have been because so many people in the field he'd like to get into are using Macs.

but that's a good question.

 

Well that's why I wanna know.

Some schools still do use the OSX environment with OSX softwares to teach their design programs so that might be a factor.

In the industry it's kiff-kiff honestly. Photoshop doesn't operate that different under OSX than it does under Windows.

 

I'm curious (both for the OP and myself): what do you have in mind?

I always sort of thought that OS X can, at least these days, play nice in a business/corporate environment -- but I'm sure others know more about it than I do. Am I mistaken?

 

I've seen many Apple machines fail, enough to conclude that while they may be above the average consumer laptop in ruggedness, they're still under business class laptops both in terms of build quality and support. Business class machines get immediate 24/7 support. You call and they come the same day.

We use Macs and OSX at work alongside PCs, but our servers still run Windows Server.

 

There's a reason every IT company I've worked at so far order massive batches of ThinkPads for employee use. Universities also use ThinkPads for everything from simulation to heavy number crunching. The absurd amount of fail-safe features in ThinkPads is a sight to be hold. Spill a cup of water on an Apple keyboard and it's game over. ThinkPad probably doesn't even shut down.

Besides, if your Mac breaks, you can have fun calling in for an appointment with the "Genius Bar". Or, a Lenovo technician can be at your company very quickly. In a fast paced environment like an IT company, one day of downtime is a huge amount of loss.

In my current company (I can't tell you which one, but it's big, 10000+ people), there's not a single Mac in sight. Only Dell PCs and Thinkpads.

 

My company is on Thinkpads and Business HPs, however we have Apples for development purposes too.

And having opened many Macbook Pros I have to agree that they aren't as "solid" as they seem.

 

You assume that OSX has value for everyone.

Very flawed assumption.

 

Right, but what did you have in mind model-wise? I thought you were alluding to particular machines.

And yes, I totally understand on the server part. Just thinking of end-users.

Makes sense. For things as expected as a crashed hard drive, I keep a spare on hand to do the work at home myself to avoid having to deal with anyone else -- but yes, if it were a fried board or anything not relatively easily user-serviceable, I'd be up a creek. For me, it's a massive headache because of flow of information interrupted, not necessarily flow of money -- but point taken nonetheless.

 

Business professionals don't use Macs who are destinated to a more individual client base.

 

depends on the business you are a professional in.

 

You *do* know that there exists Mac servers with OSX right?

 

Yes, there are, but not many companies use them, the standard HP/IBM ones running on linux are much cheaper and better.

 

Oh of course I know that, just pointing it out.

The majority of servers use Linux or Windows Server. Virtual servers are also pretty amusing ^_^

 

Really?!? I spilled a whole cup of coffee on mine and its still running like a charm. Sure the keys are a little crunchy from the sugar but it survived much better than my Dell did when my son dumped a little lemonade on it. Yes, before anyone asks, clumsy seems to be an inherited trait. :laugh:

 

LOL, thought I was the only one that figured my keyboards need fed. but for consumer/prosumer laptops its hit and miss if they will live. I have killed enough of them thats for sure

 

Yeah, my friend also spilled a glass of milk on her HP and it's still alive somehow.

Still, you can't deny that Apple did not design their laptops for this but Lenovo did.

I would never dare to do that to my MSI. The 120W power adapter suggests that the notebook may fry ME along with itself.

 

There's no point in asking about something you're planning on buying in 2-3 years.

By that time, everything might have changed. Apple might actually be selling decently priced laptops. (Not likely) Or it could be worse than it is now.

The world of computers changes so fast, it's hard to plan one year ahead, never mind longer than that.

Oh, and just for those who are saying MacBooks are well priced. I read this and LAUGHED.

Now then, there's no way that hardware is worth $1200, let alone the $1800 they're asking for. I don't care what sort of build quality they put out, or how good the Mac OS is, that price difference CANNOT be justified except for people who explicitly need a feature of the OS. If Apple keep that up, then the answer is already NO unless every other company follows in Apple's footsteps.

 

Wooow.... I didn't knew that the Mac OS costs $600,-

 

Yes, I give lenovo a lot of credit for making a tough computer to break. To be honest they were my choice if I were to get a pc again. I got my son an idea pad a couple of years ago and it's well built, BULKY, but well built. Of course he can't stand it after using my Mac and asks me at least 3 times a week to replace it with a Mac.

 

OSX + OSX software = your question answered

WHY IS THERE NOT A HOLE IN THIS WALL

 

The newer Thinkpads like T60, T61, T510, etc are all pretty thin and light. Although yes, a few years ago... those things were bricks.