The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous page

    Leaked pictures of the iphone 4g: Real or Fake?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Luke1708, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. mishap

    mishap Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    50
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Their revenue is driven by ads so I think it's safe to say they made up for it just by the sheer number of hits they got from this scoop. As long as there's no proof they stole it, paying for it probably isn't criminal if they returned it to Apple. It may have been unethical but it's the blogosphere and ethics don't seem to be held in high regard. Incentivizing this kind of behavior isn't a good thing but I don't see it hurting Apple since it was bricked and probably close to release anyway.

    The PR as long as they handle the leak well isn't negative and while their unveiling will be less of a surprise, this was still plenty of positive media coverage for them and it cost them nothing.
     
  2. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

    Reputations:
    1,102
    Messages:
    2,373
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The first report was $10k. ( http://www.edibleapple.com/gizmodo-paid-10000-for-lost-iphone-4g/ )

    Yeah Apple said it was their *after* they found it. BTW, next time you find a money on the street, I'm telling you it's mine so just give it to me. :D
     
  3. CokeCanNinja

    CokeCanNinja Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    This looks EXACTLY like a controlled leak. The reason it doesn't look like other apple phones is because it's still a prototype. Here's an article I saw: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1694 Apperently, an apple engineer who was doing some real world testing left it in a bar. Lol, apple guys are noobs. Unless it was on purpose. (there's the "controlled leak" idea again)
     
  4. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Initial reports sometimes get it wrong.

    Apple isn't going to publicly admit that one of their prototypes got lost and ask for someone to return it. They'll do exactly what happened......wait for it to surface and then get their property back. Your comparison makes no sense at all.
     
  5. stuartfang

    stuartfang Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    why won't they turn on the fake product? they've gone through so much already. I mean just turn it on, prove that the operating system is somewhat related to apple, and not just showing us what it looks like what the parts are, form all we know it could be all fake! I believe it is fake because its such a big step from the current generation. this little box looking like samsung instict thing isn't attracting me at all!
     
  6. mrXniick

    mrXniick 8

    Reputations:
    1,548
    Messages:
    1,461
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Maybe you should actually read all of the source material before you start screaming shenanigans. They did boot the phone to bring up the "connect to itunes screen" but were not able to restore firmware.

    Also, at this point even after APPLE REQUESTED the prototype back.... there is almost no chance that this is fake. Either you know all of this already and just are terrible at coming to logical conclusions, or you were too lazy to be informed on the subject.
     
  7. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

    Reputations:
    354
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    That guy must have been fired on the spot. Either way what he did was extremely irresponsible. This will really hurt Apple's marketing if this was real. Since we can expect a new iPhone fairly soon, the release will likely look similar to this one. Damn, 4G iPhone release f'ed up by a beer. Nice.

    Either way I like the design waaay better than the previous designs. This one has a nice clean look to it.
     
  8. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

    Reputations:
    972
    Messages:
    1,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I'm not the biggest fan of Apple designs, but I really like it. Edgy and industrial. That's how I like my phones. Curvy phones make me think of the pre RAZR days where everyone either hand a really curvy candy bar phone, or a really curvy flip phone. Hard, straight edges imply industrial strength, engineering, and precision.
     
  9. Xhibit

    Xhibit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    131
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Obviously a publicity stunt by Apple, early sign of the upcoming super hype for the next iPhone. Recently most of tech/sci on google news was ipad/leaked iphone/new macbook's graphics. The media coverage Apple gets is simply amazing.
     
  10. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Exactly why this isn't done by Apple. They don't need to. As I said before, Dev's had to lock down iPads before they where launched. Why would they give a iPhone to gizmodo. If Apple wanted publicity they would of gave it to a big media outlet. Not some tech blog.
     
  11. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

    Reputations:
    354
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The problem is part of Apple's launch hype is because they are so secret about it. This is so anti-Apple that it can't be a publicity stunt. Then again I could be wrong.
     
  12. Xhibit

    Xhibit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    131
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So theirs two possibilities:

    1) Apple set it up or...
    2) A high up Apple employee decides to get smashed at a bar, and for whatever reason decides to bring the new unreleased iPhone 4 prototype, the most important upcoming product from Apple (maybe his other phone was broken?). Then after a couple drinks "accidentally" drops the phone, worth thousands of dollars, and without him or anyone else at Apple even noticing its gone, he goes home. The phone was later found, started up a media frenzy, then Apple basically confirms its true, while everyone reading the news on it comments on how cool it looks.
     
  13. unnamed01

    unnamed01 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    194
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The new design with the front facing camera is great, and everything but I'm more interested in whats inside. Snapdragon? Or custom apple chip? Or?
     
  14. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,567
    Messages:
    2,370
    Likes Received:
    2,375
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Oh yeah, the whole of Apple marketing must be *so* annoyed at all the hype surrounding a few photos reminding everyone of a new iWankery gadget out in the near future.
     
  15. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

    Reputations:
    354
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    When you put it that way that makes sense too. It may be to judge people's reactions to the new design. In fact, high ranking Apple employees are probably reading this thread right now :eek2:
     
  16. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Since when does Apple care what we think of the looks of a Apple product? Did Apple get a new CEO that I didn't hear about? It's also bad for sales, now people that didn't already know that a new iPhone comes out in Juneish knows that a new iPhone is coming out soon.
     
  17. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    4,062
    Messages:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    116
    In theory, the man was a baseband engineer. It makes sense for him to have a device out and about for real world testing purposes, which also explains the 3GSesque case. However, he shouldn't have been using it as a personal device, and should have returned it to Apple before heading out to his B-Day party.
     
  18. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  19. DJRiful

    DJRiful Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    23
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Grey Powell is no longer in the staff directory means he got fired. Apple staff at apple store just checked the directory and confirmed.
     
  20. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    4,062
    Messages:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    116
    It was expected, hopefully the guy will find something in today's troubled economy. I know no one in the tech industry will touch him though, sadly.
     
  21. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    If I were him, I'd be going after Gizmodo for releasing his name and causing irreparable damage!
     
  22. stuartfang

    stuartfang Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No, you obviously did not read what I said, what I meant was they never took a screenshot of the phone being on, you must be really naive and practical if you think its real what they say that "the phone botted but the connect to itunes screen appears", but my point is they never take a screen that the phone is being demonstrated booted. Either you prove it, or read carefully what other people say, and not mistunderstood them in a very disrespecting way.
     
  23. mrXniick

    mrXniick 8

    Reputations:
    1,548
    Messages:
    1,461
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Er what? Contradict yourself much?

    Also, my point still stands. You obviously have not done your research on the subject if you think this device is a fake. Re-read my post, all of your points are addressed.

    P.S.

    Punctuation is your friend... that is a hell of a run on sentence.
     
  24. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  25. ATC

    ATC Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    245
    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    ^^^

    Gotta love the lengths they went to to disguise it. Very cool.
     
  26. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,745
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/26/gizmodo_iphone4_raid/

    Cops raid Gizmodo editor in pursuit of iPhone 4G 'felony'

    Gizmodo editor Jason Chen has been raided by Silicon Valley's computer crime force in hot pursuit of the case of the missing iPhone prototype. According to a bulletin published by Gizmodo today, they broke down the front door to gain entry, and departed some hours later with a truck containing Chen's computer equipment.

    The inventory of the relocated kit is published alongside the Gizmodo story, and is possibly slightly smaller than one might have expected, although it's entirely unclear to us why they might have felt the need for a whole box of business cards belonging to "suspect chen".

    The search - which was conducted partially in Chen's absence - was carried out under a warrant issued by the Superior Court of San Mateo. Chen disputed its validity when he arrived on the scene, and furnished the officers with a statement from Gaby Darbyshire, COO and chief legal officer of Gizmodo parent Gawker, claiming that both state and federal law state that a search warrant may not validly be issued to confiscate the property of a journalist.

    Darbyshire quotes section 1524(g) of the CA Penal Code and section 1070 of the CA Evidence Code. The Penal Code states: "No warrant shall issue for any item or items described in Section 1070 of the Evidence Code", while the Evidence Code section quoted covers the protection of journalists and publishers from having to disclose information on sources, and unpublished information, including "all notes, outtakes, photographs, tapes or other data".

    Darbyshire says it's "abundantly clear" that the search warrant was invalid, that a subpoena should have been issued instead, and that Chen should get all his gear back pronto.

    And perhaps he should. The warrant however, invalid or not, gives a clear indication of the way the cops' minds are drifting. The warrant claims that there is probable cause that the seized property was lawfully seizable under Section 1524 in that "it was used as the means of committing a felony [and] it tends to show that a felony has been committed or that a particular person has committed a felony".

    So they seem to think there's a felony case against Jason Chen: pays finder $5,000 for a lost iPhone prototype, knows who owner of lost iPhone prototype is, doesn't give it back to him or police, runs screamer exclusive instead? Hmm, wonder what gave them that idea? ®
     
  27. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

    Reputations:
    996
    Messages:
    3,727
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    the search was perfectly legal.

    The search and seizure was nothing to do with sources. It was investigating stolen goods.
     
  28. candystick

    candystick Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Theres alot of mystery sorrounding this.
     
  29. mrXniick

    mrXniick 8

    Reputations:
    1,548
    Messages:
    1,461
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    No need to turn to personal insults... that is completely uncalled for.

    This post only further confirmed what everyone else on the internet already knew-- this iPhone prototype is real. This new video with the boot logo only further confirms (what was already pretty much 100% confirmed).
     
  30. SP Forsythe

    SP Forsythe Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    173
    Messages:
    664
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
← Previous page