Lion Is Out

Lion is available at the App Store. Up To Date is also working, my mac which i purchased in June 27 went to the Up To Date page registered and got a code for the apps to download lion for free.

 

If anyone wants to wait.. Apple has said they will sell Lion on USB sticks for $69 starting in August sometime.

 

I keep getting ineligible serial number when I enter mine....

Edit: I see a bunch of people on Macrumors.com complaining about the same thing. I guess they have a bug somewhere.

 

I'm downloading mine via up-to-date also. No problems so far.

 

It would be cheaper to buy the digital version and a usb stick. Food for thought.

 

yes, you can make your own USB stick or DVD by buying the digital download and grabbing the dmg inside of it... some people don't want to do that... and the USB stick option is mainly for people who cannot for whatever reason do the digital download. Not everyone has limitless broadband internet. Apple lets people go to an Apple store to get it directly to their machine (if they bring it), but that also doesn't work for everyone since not everyone has an Apple Store nearby.

Just as a caution though to downloaders... make your images or backup copy of the installer before you use it.. if you download it and do the update right away, it'll remove the installer and you have to download it all over again!

 

Apple is saying high volume is the cause of my serial number issue and to just wait. I'm not at home right now so no big deal to wait.

 

Hm. I don't mind reverse scrolling on the trackpad--it make sense from a touchscreen point of view and I rather like it. But I wish there was an option to set it for just the trackpad, and not my mouse.

 

I guess boobs work in customer service at apple as my Mac is getting the upgrade.

I have to ask that what is the size of Lion? Is it around 3.5 gigs like the gm releases that were floating around the web? I will be going someplace and I am wondering how long would it take to download.

 

I'll get lion later when downloads are faster. So what are your guys' thoughts on inverted scrolling? Some people hate it, i've been using it forever now with bettertouchtool. But i get somewhat confused when i use other people's computers now.

 

I believe you can fix it under system preferences.

 

I cannot stand it.

It makes since on a touch screen when I'm actually putting my finger to he screen, but not when I'm using some separate pointing device. It, and hidden scroll bars are the first things I disable. Its also annoying since I use many different machines and different OSes and cannot only use Lion, and having it backwards only in Lion is annoying. To the scrollbars, i hate those being hidden because at times certain windows will look like you are seeing everything, but you aren't and you have no visual indication that there is more to scroll and see without having to check. I want to see the scrollbar all the time so things are hidden from me and i know I can scroll.

 

Well, it began with a 3---, but I don't recall if it was 3gigs or 300megs. It only took about a minute or so to download though.

It's intuitive on the trackpad if you're used to using an iPad or iPhone. On a mouse though, it's completely counterintuitive. I don't like that there's no way to auto-differentiate between trackpads and mice--I should be able to set that option separately for each mouse/trackpad/whatever I use.

 

Anyone with the Core i7s update to lion. There were a couple of people on MR who said their 15" were running hotter.

 

I upgraded and my Wi-Fi refuses to work. Pre-Windows 7 flashbacks...

 

Are you using Win 7 on it? Isn't Win 7 support $h*&ty on the Macs to begin with?

 

For those who are upgrading--which changes from Snow Leopard are you most interested in?

 

No, just remembering the connectivity issues I had using previous versions of Windows on PC's.

 

heh, I registered for the upgrade today, it took me 2 longs hours to do it, gladly that I was reading something, and in the end I will probably have to wait 2 days for the serial

 

Serial? It's just a download from the app store. You can install as soon as it finishes downloading.

 

you need the serial for the up-to-date program if you are getting Lion for free.

 

I can't say that inverted scrolling is very bothersome, but they've changed the gestures considerably. Does anyone know how to make a three finger swipe to the left use the "back" function instead of bringing up Dashboard?

 

Yes: System Preferences > Trackpad > More Gestures > Swipe between pages > Swipe left or right with three fingers

I fixed my internet issues too, by disabling avast antivirus. I'm gonna try Sophos now.

 

I agree. I doesn't affect me much personally as I only use one or the other at any one time but I can def see the benefit of having individual and separate scroll settings for trackpad and mouse.

 

Yes, I do.

 

can someone please explain how to get the dmg? I'm downloading now...

 

This might help. Can someoone confirm that it is still applicable?

 

Aren't any files that are downloaded in App store always remain in the app store linked to your account? This has been the case for the other apps that I have downloaded in the past.

 

Just follow this. I've tried it and it works perfectly. I've even done a clean install using the Boot DVD this morning and it was perfectly fine.

 

so what haphands when you can't 'view package contents'? found the file... but can't open it.

 

wait until its downloaded... or your trying to open the wrong "file"

it should be "Install Mac OS X Lion.app" ... you might not see the ".app" if you have extensions turned off in Finder. Since a normal ".app" in OSX is an Application Bundle, it is really just a normal folder, but Finder hides the inside because of the .app (for a test create a folder in Finder and name it "New Folder.app" and see what happens). Right clicking and selecting "Show Package Contents" just opens up a Finder window to show you the stuff inside the .app folder. If you do not have that option... then you probably are not using the right file... or something got majorly corrupted in the download... or its just downloaded data thats not done downloading yet so you cannot do anything with it.

 

How is it in terms of system requirements versus Snow Leopard. Does it use substantially more system resources? My MacBook only has 2GB of RAM with no option to upgrade.

TIA

 

I wonder how long it will be until you can get a Macbook Pro 13" pre-loaded with Lion?

 

Shouldn't all Macbook Pros start shipping pre-loaded with Lion today?

 

Easily the most painless OS upgrade I've ever done in my life.

Enter password, click a couple of times, done. Every piece of software works without problems. Getting used to the new changes and enhancements.

Amazingly smooth rollout.

Good job, Apple.

 

actually they should and even in their website it reads this:

"How to Get OS X Lion
With every new Mac.

Beginning when OS X Lion is released in July, every new Mac computer will come with OS X Lion."

But after chatting online with apple, they told me that not untill snow leopard inventory is finished :S

 

I've been using Lion for a few months but today I officially got rid of our SL partition and migrated everything over. The wife test went pretty smoothly; she sat down for the first time using it, showed her a few gestures, and within a few mins she was right at home. Gotta love simplicity.

 

the only thing I've noticed since upgrading on my MBP was my wireless would not connect. I had to reboot in order for it to connect (first time thats happened that I can recall with an OS upgrade). Turned off reverse scrolling because that would just irritate me

 

You should give yourself at least a week with the new scrolling rather than just dismissing it because it's "different". It's actually the proper way to scroll. It's been backwards all these years and people have been conditioned to believe that it's the "proper" way and it's not. Took me a couple of days and I prefer Lion's scrolling.

 

Agreed. If you've used an iPad, it feels almost second nature--just a matter of changing your perspective so that you realize you're moving the page instead of scrolling a hypothetical bar.

I'm forcing myself to use the old style of scrolling on my mouse though--mostly because the rest of the non-Lion world still uses it. Would suck to get so accustomed to the "new' style to point where I might actually scroll the wrong direction when using another machine. That was a rather annoying issue when I first used dvorak keyboards. Plus, it's not nearly so intuitive with a mouse wheel as a trackpad for me.

 

It's irrelevant what's "proper", if there is such a thing. What matters is what is most comfortable to the user, and I see no advantage in inverting what I'm accustomed to.

 

A good write up on Lion here Upgrade: With OS X 10.7 Lion, Apple's Macs Enter iPad Era - TIME. At least some journalists understand the philosophy of why Apple made Lion the way it is.

 

The point is that people are missing out by dismissing it before giving it a good try. Not saying everyone will like it, but they might be surprised by how efficient and effective it is once they really use it for a while. Of course they can disable it if they want to. Choice is good.

 

Interesting that you're coming so harshly at me when I wasn't talking to you in the first place. .

I never said (to the OTHER poster) that they should change because Apple said so, I recommended for them to give natural scrolling a try. And it is true, when people become accustomed to doing something a certain way they deem it as "proper", thus preventing themselves from any form of change so what's perceived as "proper" is very relevant but thanks for your post.

 

I tried it all day, but unlike on my iphone and ipad, this reverse scrolling thing is not working out for me on a laptop.

The messed up thing is that when doing the four-finger gesture to switch between full screen apps, that direction is reversed from the scrolling - to get what I want to scroll full screen apps (slide right to go right and left to go left) I'd have to leave natural (reversed up and down scrolling) scroll selected

 

Well that's why you don't change it to the old way. It honestly shows that the old way is really reversed and the natural way is what it is, natural. Yes they could've given the option to customize it so you have reverse scrolling and still natural swipes but oh well, try to learn something new and change your old habits.
This is the way Lion was designed and maybe it's not for you. Might've been to your advantage to check out the OS or read more forums like Macrumors before you made the $30 purchase.

 

I've not been harsh. Remember also that this is a public forum.

I didn't say otherwise. What you did say, though, is that Apple's default setting for scrolling (in Lion) is:

I think it's ludicrous to talk of "proper ways to scroll". What matters, as my post made clear, is what best suits the user, not some abstract notion of "properness". I hope this clarifies matters for you.

 

The new Lion Mail sucks, big time.

 

It's all about how your post is perceived (which is why you should carefully word stuff), especially when it's coming directly at me which you were. You should be more sensitive to that rather than deciding if you were being harsh or not. That's for the poster that you were coming at to decide.

Why not stick to the topic at hand (like I have been) and offer some helpful feedback rather than fighting people about what's proper and what's not? You missed the whole point entirely.

Mail is the single most celebrated app in Lion so thanks for your troll post.

 

Not a troll post. Where do you get off saying that? I'm a 15 year Mac user, and I think it sucks. There was nothing wrong with the old mail.

Funny how you scold a guy for how he comes off, and right after that, you call me a troll. Nice.