My brain and schooling.
Heating = expanding
Cooling = shrinking
Excessive heating/cooling causes fractures, 100c is in this range of damage.
Google it, i'm not doing it for you.
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That's the lamest excuse for evidence/proof I've ever seen.
I'll use wiki instead, which I believe trumps your knowledge:
Soldering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You fail to acknowledge that the SB i7 has 4 cores @ 800Mhz and a P3 has 1 core at 800MHz. Please back up your statement that "clock rate efficiency and new technology don't make a difference". -
For a 2700 dollar unit that can throttle to 800mhz is pretty extreme, may as well call it a P3 with the price/preformance ratio i'm getting. Basically the laptop is crap. A p3 is crap.
Doesnt matter the clock rate effeciency and new technology of 32nm, just leave it as the unit throttles to slow ing speeds.
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Lol, melting bro; I'm NOT talking melting.
Thermodynamics classes will help.
Melting is FAR different from thermal fractures.
Education will help you, not wikipedia with it giving you melting temps.
"Soft solder is what is most often thought of when solder or soldering are mentioned and it typically has a melting range of 90 to 450 °C (190 to 840 °F). It is commonly used in electronics and plumbing."
Guess you were mistaken saying 100c is harmless to solder.
Please stop giving 'insight' to the thread. Its worthless. -
You fail to acknowledge that the SB i7 has 4 cores @ 800Mhz and a P3 has 1 core at 800MHz. Please back up your statement that "clock rate efficiency and new technology don't make a difference".
Obviously Apple doesn't use 90C rated solder, and since it can be up to 450C, you really can't say 100C is bad for the solder. For all you know, they could be using 300C rated solder. -
masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook
What type of material reliability issues do you believe you may run into exposing solder to a temperature of 100C (about 75C lower than it's melting point)?
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Dude please you are making me dumber the more I read, I cant even believe how literally you are taking that comment, its sad because only wolfpup was able to comprehend the statement correctly.
Unbelievable. I think I came to the wrong forum for insight.
Pentium 3 bro -
Maybe you should:
a. Use logic.
b. State only fact that ARE PROVABLE.
c. Don't be rude, that'll only get you banned.
I believe more people doubt your statemtns than believe them. Maybe consider for just a moment that you could(I know, I'm going out on limb here) possibly be wrong.
Your superior attitude won't get your far here, we require facts and logic here on NBR. I( and no one else) give a damn about your "brain and schooling." Or the lack of. -
Bottom line:
All Intel processors throttle down to 800Mhz when at their threshold. This is an intended design. This means all Apple laptops, all Lenovo, all brands.
Your particular MBP hits this temp quite easily - and some demo units you used at the store.
Other people who own the MBP and game don't have this issue or there would be widespread complaints.
To me this implies that it is not a design flaw. Either your laptop and the few you used at the store have an issue with the thermal paste or another flaw. If this is the case, have them replace it. The other option is that you are doing something drastically different from other MBP users and a MBP isn't for you then, sell it and buy another laptop.
There isn't any point to continuing the bickering in this thread. -
Biogatyr summed it up nicely.
And with that, we're going to close the thread.
MBP 15" Throttle down to 0.8 ghz?
Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by MittWaffen, Feb 6, 2012.