MacBook Pro Buyers Remorse = No More

Isn't this some sort of arrogance on Apple's part that they can "rip off" others by "overpricing" their products but they cannot be "ripped off" by others (in this case, paying the "overpriced" Blu-ray licensing fees)? It is obvious to me that the sentence "what goes around, comes around" is not in their dictionary!

 

Just as how they produce all those arrogant, smug Mac VS. PC ads but yet asked Microsoft to take down one of their Laptop Hunters ads, they can dish it out but cannot take it.

http://www.osnews.com/story/21840/_Apple_Asked_Microsoft_To_Take_Down_Laptop_Hunter_Ads_

 

Baby you have to admit.. Those microsoft adds are ridiculous.. Even my mates who are both Win and Mac users laugh their head off at them ads!
At least the Mac ads are original and funny at times!

 

Most of the ads (Mac included) are absurd and propagate some myths that have already been exploded. Mac ads focus far too much on viruses and spyware when these problems are nowhere near that dramatic for most "savvy" computer users.

Some of the Mac ads are pretty cute though, uninformative and fairly shallow, but cute.

 

Apple playing on misconceptions geared at those less tech savvy is why I despise their commercials. Well said, and why I refuse to buy their computers.

Also, to whoever said Windows 7 was just a glossed over Vista...you are dead wrong.

I'm not trying to troll by the way, I do admire their build quality and overall design.

 

Exactly overhauling the CPU scheduling algorithm, PowerShell 2.0, parallel driver initialization during boot, the list goes on...

Usually only non-techies will assume it is a glossed only improvement.

 

I consider it a gloss over because it didn't fix any of the issues I was having with Vista. I tried the Beta as a last resort before switching to Mac. After making the switch I felt like an idiot for being anti-Mac for so long. I am so much happier with my Mac than I ever was with any PC over the last 20 plus years. I find it funny when I get called a fanboy or told that I don't know what I'm talking about by a PC user. Its usually the other way around.

 

It DID
Faster Boot Time
Improve Responsiveness
Less UAC during System Administration (with slight compromise over security)
Unless you are having issue accustoming to the GUI then no one can help you.
I am already using Win7 RTM with Zero Complaints.

Gloss over means changes in LOOKS ONLY not defined as failed to fix Jervis's personal issues.

 

Jervis, I don't know what issues you were having that somehow followed you to Windows 7, but it's definitely not Vista.

 

Networking was the major issue for me.

1. My speeds actually dropped in W7.
2. Networking a printer was a pain.

Explanation: With Vista it would take forever (well over 15 minutes) to set up a network printer using the wizard. After a few days the printer would be lost and need to be reinstalled. This carried over to W7 and was a major pain. I didn't really notice an improvement in start up time on my system and shut down was still slow.

I agree that W7 is not Vista just like Snow Leopard is not Leopard. There are new things going on under the hood. My "glossed over" is in terms of user experience. While people can quote all the changes in W7 all I was able to see was that my issues weren't fixed.

I'm sure somebody will claim it was just my system, blah blah blah but I tried the beta on 3 different computers. Sure I could have waited for the RC or full release but Vista really tarnished my opinion of Windows. After all the positive press over the W7 Beta I expected to see some improvements but didn't so I moved on. My Mac set up my network printer in under a minute and has never "lost" it, startup time is blazingly fast compared to Windows and shut down takes about 4 seconds.

 

Networking Speeds is dependent on Certain factors
Things you can do:
Uncheck QoS
Turn off Remote Differential Compression

Things you can't change
Poorly programmed drivers (But you can update them)

Networking Printers are more of a driver issue.
I don't know about you but Windows 7 got me better network speeds
I could set up network printers in both Vista and 7 easily.
Vista took longer but 7 was great.
Contrary to your sig it is possible to make PC a Mac

 

The laptops bestbuy offers are mostly crap mass market cheapo stuff that will die out in a year or overpriced mid level systems.

 

I love your UK only random figures/ SURVEY FROM 2008 for laptop reliability.. Why dont you post some recent results for reliability.. Not just survey results either.. Actual official failure rate numbers..etc.. Apple is No1 for reliability world wide. Officially! Again not a random survey done in the UK.

 

Fishy I would like to address your claim of vista being xxxx

I had been running Vista BEFORE sp1, and it ran perfectly. I counted how many BSOD's and lockups I have had throughout the whole. I had 2 BSODS and 3 lockups, and those were because I screwed around with some software.

Now, I've been running fully updated, clean installed Snow Leopard for 3 weeks almost and I'll tell you about my experiences.

When I first installed Snow Leopard, the boot up screen kept telling me to restart, and it was stuck in that loop. I had to call Apple support to help me wipe the drive and reinstall. Great.

Since then there have been no problems booting up. But, I have counted 13 different times when my computer simply locked up and froze on me, forcing me to hold the power button down. Not to mention that I've had Safari and other Apple applications crashing on me multiple times daily.

I'm not gonna lie, I like the hardware, but for me, the price doesn't justify it for me. I still feel guilty for buying it for $1700, and it still eats me that for that price, the battery came faulty and the system overheats.

I've installed many different printers for both Mac and PC users and have found that networking is simply a breeze with Vista & 7, so I don't know which printer you've been using. Windows 7 is EXTREMELY fast compared to Vista, and you can look up the review I had of a aged, 512 mb RAM laptop running windows 7 perfectly, along with other users trying the same and coming out with successful results

I love how you're basing the whole argument on your system alone. There are THOUSANDS of people that agree that W7 Beta was faster and extremely stable, even in it's early stages. The fact that you didn't see improvement must mean that you're blind, as I have influenced at least 50 people to try windows 7, and I even installed it on their computers free of charge. EVERY single one of them noticed the difference, and at least over half of them pre-ordered a copy of seven. It takes around a minute, give or take a few seconds, for my 512 mb laptop to fully load W7 and idle.

 

Which? survyed quite a wide number of people in the UK a year ago. I don't think it is a random survey but things can change from year to year. I also stated that in what i wrote.

There was also a similar survey that i read last year that was done in the US (it was neither of the reports that i linked to).
When people survey too few a sample then you have to judge the reliability of these actual surveys. Like i said in that post, Apple normally in the past have been top when it comes to customer service and do pretty well when it comes to repairs.

I actually deleted my post some time ago to look for more current info. I did though find an article after i posted. This 2009 survey put Asus on top for reliability and Apple 2nd. Apple did though score highly and come out top in a pcmag poll.

Again, if you could share with us any other those sources you have read it would be good.

These are the surveys i linked to in my other post.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/28/which_laptop_survey/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28821&d=1230653333

 

Sorry but you wont find any more recent than this..

http://www.gearlog.com/2009/09/apple_dominates_pcmags_service.php

And as I said in an earlier post somewhere... You know that ASUS is Apples contract manufacturer.... They make Macbooks.....

 

Where did you get this information from? Can you please provide a source?

 

That survey is the PCMag readers survey that i mentioned in my post above.
I'm not so sure though like you are that you can then use that readers mag poll to make assumptions about things on a worldwide level.

I am interested in though seeing a US 2009 external Consumer report and Which? most recent report which really should be out by now.

 

What about ASUS..? just google it baby... Its quite well known by now that ASUS make a large number of Apples Macbooks.. as well as Quanta

 

http://web.consumerreports.org/bran...CROCANBRANDG&HBX_OU=50&HBX_PK=customer_report

Feel free to register..

Oh forgot to mention... I work for Apple...... hahaha

Apple tops out almost every time in almost every field... I live in Canada right now and we just got the consumer reports numbers for Canada and guess who was no1 for service AND reliability....

 

MacBook Pro performance?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220576 not compared to that!

Only $100 more than the cheapest MacBook Pro too. Look at the warranty too. Apple doesn't even offer extended warranties with those options. And those that left negative reviews? The manufacturer is reaching out to them directly to try to resolve their issues.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220561 look what I get for $100 less than the cheapest MacBook Pro.

I tried to sell my unibody MacBook earlier this year. But the long time dedicated Mac owner who wanted to buy it ended up using Windows 7 on a Dell Studio XPS 13 with dual GPUs running in hybrid SLI for (at the time) less than the MacBook new. So I got screwed over and stuck with the system. I won't buy another Mac until they're priced appropriately, like half of what they are now.

 

if those machines meet your needs and wants.. thats great... If I was given one for free, I'd just sell it... they only focus on the main "specs" and on nothing else, I wouldn't wanna be stuck with one of those.

 

While it is possible to install OSX on a PC (ILLEGALLY) it still won't be a Mac. I suppose you think a Ford pinto can be a BMW too.

Nasty, Nasty. I simply gave my opinion based on my personal experience and did not state it as fact. If you read my post correctly you would have noticed that. May I remind you that it used to be known as fact that the earth was flat. Popular OPINION is much different than FACT in many cases. Notice how I didn't dispute your experience or call you blind?

 

Ok, this thread has gone off the deep end.

Closed.