Macbook Pro Sleep

Hi! I finally decided to get a Macbook Pro and so far I really like it xD Before I had read that the Macbook Air can be left almost all the time on sleep mode without doing any arm and conserving the battery. Is this also true on the Macbook Pro?

Thanks

 

Yes it is true.

 

Also, if you have Lion and an SSD, sleep mode isn't much of a time-saver over just shutting the system down and starting it up for those times you know you won't be using the laptop for a while.

It takes a couple of seconds longer to shut down since you have to enter a keyboard shortcut or click two things instead of just flipping the lid closed, but it only takes like 10-15 seconds to start up (compared to the what, 5 seconds to wake from sleep?). You'll still have everything that was open at the time you shut the laptop off exactly as they were.

 

What is a keyboard shortcut for shutting down a mac?

 

Ok thanks for the replies My Macbook came with Snow Leopard and I am thinking about upgrading to Lion....should I notice some performance improvements?

 

Control-Option-Command-Eject

Press all four simultaneously, and you mac will shutdown immediately, with no other confirmation required.

 

Hmm that is a lot of keys. Only if Apple also had a Command - F4 option for it..

 

Honestly I like Control-Option-Command-Eject better than alt+F4

 

Plus, with atl+F4, you still have to select what option you actually want to do (shutdown, sleep, hibernate, restart). Control-Option-Command-Eject is only one key off from Option-Command-Eject which is sleep mode so it is easy for me to remember.

Also, most of the time, I just put my MBP in sleep mode. I only shut it down when the system locks up (this has been happening to me since upgrading to Lion with Google's music uploading software, the software stops and it will eventually crash my system) or when I have to apply an update that requires it as well. Other than that, I always just put it to sleep. I would actually shut it down if I didn't plan on using my MBP over the weekend but that hasn't happened yet.

 

Right, i think i would shut my mbp off more often if it had a SSD.

Currently, I only shut it down when i go sleep at night.

 

Even then I would put it just in sleep mode unless you actually planned to leave it off for a few days. MBPs draw an extremely small amount of power when they are in sleep mode. In fact, I think the battery has enough juice to power them for a week in sleep mode before they become somewhat drained.

 

So what are the advantages of shutting it off when compared to just putting it in sleep mode?

 

Is leaving in sleep mode bad for SSD?

 

You know what kills me?
The thing about that being a new feature of the Air is complete B.S.
All macbooks have always done the same thing.
I guess they are whooping it up for those who didn't already know a Mac?

 

what are you talking about?

 

I assume you are talking to me?

I am talking about the bizarre assertion that the resume from sleep is some new feature of the Air when in fact it has been a feature of every Macbook that I know of.

I imagine it is some marketing thing to get peoples attention about the Air and Macs in general.

This spins off the posted topic here about Sleep/
Got it?
Ed

 

OK. I have never really been a fan of macbook or even the MBAs. I have stuck with the MBPs.

 

All modern Mac portables have always had the same sleep features,thats all I am saying.

The advertising for the Airs claims this is some exciting new feature when it has been a feature since the beginning and is one of my favorite features.

They are just making this claim to get more new people interested in Macs in general.

Your MBP have always had this same sleep mode too.

 

Where is this claim made, about it being new? I've seen claims about sleep being instant on, but nor about it being new

 

I looked through a handful of MacBook Air pages and did not come across anything where instant on was being touted as a new feature. Apple is advertising it as a feature but not anything that is new. I think it is more slight of hand advertising and now outright lying. In other words, they are advertising it more for the MBA instead of the MBP even though it also has the same feature.

 

I purchased my MBP with the stock 320GB drive with the plan that I'll upgrade it myself later however I have noticed that from completely shut down it doesnt take very long to boot up (20-30 sec). So my question is will I really see a difference if I purchase an SSD and replace it with the Superdrive to install the OS on SSD and Apps and files on HDD? (I dont want to spend too much and I like the capacity of the HDD)

 

it'll boot up and launch programs faster with an SSD no doubt. 10 seconds to startup as opposed to 30 seconds.

 

So I will still see an improvement in speed of apps even if the apps are installed on the HDD?

 

The dual drive setup (SSD for primary and HDD for secondary) is a common approach. Mac OS X will load up faster and so will apps if they are installed on the SSD. Apps installed on the HDD will load in the same amount of time. SSD improvements are only observed for content on the actual SSD. That is why you should look at buying at least a 128GB SSD so that you can put OS X on there along with any apps while using the secondary HDD for media storage.

 

So will I see a difference from the stock 320GB drive if I replace it with a 500GB Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid Drive?

 

Maybe. I have heard the difference between a standard hard drive and hybrid one is slim to none for OS X and that you really have to go with a full on SSD in order to really notice anything. The last time I chekced, programs would launch about 1-2 seconds faster and boot times were cut from 30 seconds down to about 25 seconds. So nothing too drastic. It isn't like switching to a full SSD (no hybrid) where OS X will cold boot in 10 seconds and programs launch within a 2-4 seconds.

 

So basically the optimal configuration would be to pair a Momentus XT along with an SSD right? I would really like to get an SSD however I think that they are still too expensive Most probably I'll get a Momentus XT (Its the best option for an HDD right? )for now then I might look into replacing the Super Drive with an SSD later (I also need to upgrade the RAM to 8GB )

 

Sleep is not some new feature, but Apple is boasting about the 30-day sleep endurance of the MBA. I agree though, that is not a feature worth trumpeting.