The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous page

    Maybe a typical question but can you convinvce me to buy a Macbook over similar Dell?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by lithnights, May 9, 2010.

  1. Jervis961

    Jervis961 Hall monitor

    Reputations:
    558
    Messages:
    952
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I didn't give specific examples but since you want to forgive, I guess I can accept. :p By the way you never replied in the other thread. ;)
     
  2. SauronMOS

    SauronMOS Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    173
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Her? If you want to talk about posting history, you'd know I'm a guy.

    Apple has to have good customer service to make up for poor build quality and to keep people coming back, despite pricing their systems 2-3x higher than they should be priced.

    Only because I baby the thing. Babying my system didn't help the DVD drive not get killed by a firmware update, requiring service.

    Why shut down? Hibernate. Oh thats right, OS X doesn't offer hibernation.

    And having used Snow Leopard since launch with multiple fresh installs now, I can tell you that the PC user will definitely "keep on working" through many OS X restarts ;)

    Maybe because its been nearly 3 years since I've had an issue with HP? The last replacement from HP has worked wonderfully and its run XP, Vista, and now Windows 7 x64 without a problem. On the other hand, Snow Leopard was a downgrade, a firmware update killed my DVD writer, and now Apple's prices have gotten to the point where they are just insulting to anyone with a shred of intelligence.

    Or the fact that you have no argument has kept you quiet ;)
     
  3. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    941
    Messages:
    2,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I don't even own a Mac and I know that's not true. you can turn it off or on in the terminal, or customize it to your liking.
     
  4. SauronMOS

    SauronMOS Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    173
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Oh yeah? I click the Apple menu and I see Sleep, Restart, Shut Down. No hibernate. This is 2010, I shouldn't have to go command line for anything. Nothing. Zip.
     
  5. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    This is just pure ignorance, and nothing more.
     
  6. HLdan

    HLdan Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,088
    Messages:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    OS X does in fact offer hibernation. If goes into hibernation when it needs to. You're just uninformed.
     
  7. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

    Reputations:
    996
    Messages:
    3,727
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    you can change it (not super easy, you have to search on how to do it) so that sleep always hibernates....

    normally it only hibernates automatically if it needs to sleep and the battery is very low on power.
     
  8. SauronMOS

    SauronMOS Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    173
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    No, you're just trying to say OS X does something it does not. It has a "safe sleep" feature where the contents of the RAM are stored to the HDD, sort of like hibernation. But that only comes into play in the event of a total power failure.

    It's not a true hibernation such as Windows offers. You can't actually choose it and completely power off your system while saving your session to the HDD.
     
  9. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    941
    Messages:
    2,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    again, I don't even own a mac and I know you can go into the terminal and configure the computer to immediately hibernate INSTEAD OF going into regular sleep.

    I know what you're saying by suggesting the only time hibernate comes into play is if sleep mode gets so low that it uses that...but powerstate features (sleep, deep sleep, hibernate) can be customized in the terminal completely. you can configure the laptop to ONLY sleep when closing the lid...you can configure it to ONLY hibernate when closing the lid...or you can configure a hybrid of the 2, as is default based on amount of power.

    I was reading about it just last night.

    Google was my friend and I don't even own a Mac. Maybe you should get Google's number and start getting chummy with it too. It'd make you look less like a doouche.
     
  10. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Google is pretty amazing, but even Google has it's limits!! :)
     
  11. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    941
    Messages:
    2,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    indeed, even Google cannot conquer end-user stupidity.

    I would just give the guy the links...but his attitude makes me disinclined to help him. a rare feat that I don't try to help people.
     
  12. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

    Reputations:
    354
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Keep it clean please. This is a freaking online forum, where we discuss not fight. No need to use words like those. He has an opinion, you have yours, we don't really need to go into name calling like children.
     
  13. Jervis961

    Jervis961 Hall monitor

    Reputations:
    558
    Messages:
    952
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sorry, I didn't take the time to read every one of your posts. My bad.

    Your problems with HP were actually 2 years ago but I wouldn't want to nit pick. Although maybe I should since you claim Apple has lousy build quality when they are ranked much higher than HP (who is dead last) for reliability according to Consumer Reports.

    You obviously didn't get the point of the restarting your PC question. You talk about tossing an extra battery in a backpack to make a PC last as long as a Mac. You will need to shut off the PC to change the battery while the Mac user just keeps working.

    Others have already handled your mistake on the hibernate issue so I'll skip it.

    Most of the arguments you make are quite silly.

    Seriously? :rolleyes:
     
  14. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    941
    Messages:
    2,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    he's a big boy. he can handle it.

    no, he doesn't have an opinion. he has an ability to troll from an uneducated perspective.

    I don't even own a mac. so why do I know more than he does? and why--if he's havning an issue with a feature--wouldn't he look up a basic how-to to change settings to his preference?

    too persist on being factually incorrect about that, pretending to need to switch to windows to watch a DVD, proclaiming his correctness, and denying being wrong about these things in the fact of people stating the truth is a classic troolish, doushee-move. he doesn't need you or anyone else to come to his rescue. you're not his mother. I'm sure he's long outgrown the need of a nipple. what he needs is to recognize he's wrong and ask for help like everyone else, so that he can use his equipment properly. because his issues could be resolved, were he interested in resolving them (hint: he's not interested).

    I'm quite reasonable and helpful to those who are well-measured, rational, and objective. To the rest...they can bite me.
     
  15. Jervis961

    Jervis961 Hall monitor

    Reputations:
    558
    Messages:
    952
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Wow! It's pretty bad when a person who doesn't own a Mac calls you out for being a troll. :)
     
  16. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    +1! Very well put!
     
  17. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,082
    Trophy Points:
    931
    We're done here, thread closed.
     
← Previous page