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    Microsoft stealing apple employees.

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by mr__bean, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. mr__bean

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    Stealing?
    Since when does Apple have the rights to own human beings?
    Although I am pretty sure Apple ownz addicts.
     
  3. Budding

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    It's a competitive jobs market out there. What Microsoft's doing isn't anything special. A sign up bonus or relocation allowance has been the standard for attracting top employees for ages.
     
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    Does anyone besides me find it humorous that Micro$oft has to hire Apple employees to explain to people how to use Windoze?

    That would tell me there aren't very many qualified Windows certified folks out there, even with their massive "be a certified Windows technician" program.
     
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    I bet Apple is doing the same with Microsoft employees. Its just the way of business.
     
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    Between Microsoft, Google, Apple, and a few other major companies, their executives are constantly playing musical chairs.
     
  7. jackluo923

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    People goes where money goes. It's not stealing, it's simply greed (the employee's greed) for more money.
     
  8. surfasb

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    Especially among high level executive in ALL industries, this is very common. The labor pool of employees who have a proven track record of managing strategy for a fortune 500 company is very very small, and thus it's a seller's market.
     
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    You know how much steve ballmar hates Apple, i bet if he was offered more money to work for Apple and better stock opitions he would prob jump over as well..Just like Plam got apple ppl to produce pre, its nothing special, Business does that all the time..Its actually healthy to keep a compnay becoming a monoploy..
     
  10. yuio

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    lol, this isn't at all special... let me show you...

    "Hi I'm MS, I want you to work for me! I'll give you 15$/hour + plus I give you 1000$ on the spot".

    "Hi I'm Apple, I want you to work for me! I'll give you 12$/hour + and an Apple T-shirt."

    What would you pick? to me it's a no brainer.
     
  11. Lithus

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    Steve Ballmer actually makes very little given his position. His "total compensation" (base pay + bonus + stocks) for 2008 was only ~$1.3 million.

    Compare this to Steve Jobs who's salary is $1, but takes home over $14 million in stock options.
     
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    well no question the deal with the t-shirt! o wait... :p
     
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    I bet MS was giving a Zune HD to every new employee. :p
     
  14. AMDgamer

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    Where can you buy Apple T-Shirts?? It's amazing they don't sell them on the site or package them with the systems. Good advertising.
     
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    try ebay.......
     
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    i used to get mine from my college campus bookstore when i was employed there selling laptops.
     
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    I'd love to have a Microsoft store in town.

    I have a Windows Vista laptop that can't be upgraded to SP2 or anything else. I spent about 15 hours trying to install Vista SP2 and eventually found out that there's a bug in Vista that results in database corruption that prevents any upgrades. It's been a known problem for over a year and it hasn't been fixed. I don't even know if Microsoft knows the cause of the problem. It would be fun bringing it in and watching them try to upgrade it. I suspect that they could spend a few days working on it.

    When it fails, it tells you to try a bunch of other things. These other things take hours and hours and hours and hours and hours to do. And then they fail Vista is a piece of garbage.
     
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    Here's to hoping for a Microsoft Store as well as it would be great to have a direct line to their company via the store to bring up any issues there may be with the OS instead of calling based on your region and in some instances not having proper support in that region. (Caribbean)

    But no, Vista is not a piece of garbage. The x64 version is amazing and I suggest you try that version if you haven't already.
     
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    never understood all the hate Vista still gets. i can understand the hate when it first came out but now it is beautiful. i have XP in work and cant stand using it now that i'm so used to Vista and OSX.
     
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    > But no, Vista is not a piece of garbage. The x64 version is amazing and I
    > suggest you try that version if you haven't already.

    I've been using XP x64 since 2004 - I was a very early adopter of x64 and started doing Windows x64 development in 2005. Microsoft wasn't particularly good at getting OEMs to provide drivers for x64 back then so we had to hunt and hack back in the old days to get our x64 systems to work.

    Vista is a piece of garbage. They have a corruption bug that doesn't allow you to upgrade and no tool to fix your system so that you can upgrade. Your only option is to reformat and install clean and then upgrade. That means a lot of time and effort for me including running around to find drivers for all of the gadgets on the laptop.
     
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