Microsoft strikes again!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/09/new-laptop-hunters-ad-proves-macs-are-just-for-children/

haha

 

The way they go about with their aggressive advertisements recently give me the impression that they're gonna "do an Apple" soon & only sell the Windows OS exclusively on Microsoft hardware or what we may call "Microsoft laptops" in the near future.

 

haha, that'd be pretty wild.

i think my favorite part of this new installment is when they say "it has to be really fast cuz sometimes we need to look something up and rush off to baseball!"

yeahhhhhhh a computer made 5 years ago will run a web browser plenty fast enough for that.

 

Oh wow. Haha, Microsoft continues to rub salt in the wounds. Although, Sony with BluRay for under $1500? Eh, I dunno about that...

 

I'm just shocked a parent has come to agree that one of the kid's main priority is gaming!

I'd say just give him the 15" macbook pro that he supposedly couldnt game on! Learning tool is a million times better!

 

Here goes another thread about how bad MS advertising is. Boring.

Sony sells laptops with Blu-Ray for way under $1500.

 

Of course there are Sony Vaio laptops with a Blu-ray read only drive for less than $1,500. The following is one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117897

The question becomes.... Is that Vaio good enough for you?

 

Check this article out.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/04/09/microsoft.skews.apple.tax/

Exact MS article:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/wi...pple-tax-cash-in-on-the-value-of-windows.aspx

 

Yea this is the same thing as the last red hair girl commercial. Just that they threw a little kid in there with an adult actress to make it look more "authentic."

 

By the way, why do you guys even bother about these sort of advertisements? IMO, no matter what company is doing any sort of advertisements, most of the time they'll try their best to say that their products are better than their competitors' offerings. No? You don't expect Microsoft to say that their Windows OS s**ks or Apple to say that their Mac OS s**ks, do you?

As with laptops, OSs, or any other thing, I'll strongly urge people to buy what they like, want, need, &/or can afford rather than bother with any of these advertisements whether it is from Apple, Microsoft, &/or some other companies. It is your opinion that counts, not someone else's.

 

yes but does it GAME?? Jackson needs to max out crysis on a laptop dude!! otherwise he's gonna be pissssseeddddd.

frankly these commercials are like comedy for me. i dont like to debate the merits of one vs. the other but knowing a bit about computers, these ads just make me laugh.

 

*sigh * cant we all just get along?

 

The following may be able to do average gaming, not max though:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117857

I understand what you mean.

I find such commercials funny though, although the guys who are contracted to do such ads are not laughing (at least they have jobs). It also goes to show how Microsoft views the threat Apple are posing & are showing signs of desperation.

 

Who ever made that should be shot in the face.

 

This is the sad reality of the business world.... So Apple & Microsoft "will never ever get along!"

 

A point that these ads do what they intend:

Every time one is made, a post dedicated to it goes up here.

Good work Microsoft. Keep them going.

 

Another one of my opinion is that at least Apple didn't retaliate with one of their own "silly advertisements." This IMO shows that Apple has got "class!"

 

This one's a bit less plausible for me. Does a kid his age (he looks to be around 10) really need a super humongous gaming machine, a laptop at that? A smaller laptop (netbook?) would have been a better choice IMO.

I rate this laptop hunter's ad a thumbs down.

 

I think you would have said MS is disparate no matter what the commercial said. It has been years since they have done an aggressive advertising campaign and now it is there time to do some advertising. The same is also true about Apple and there advertising. Apple went way out of there way to put down MS and most the shots were below the belt and far from the truth. This is just a simple advertising campaign. I really don't see what all the commotion is about.

 

LMAO... too bad I don't get TV so I could see all the funny computer commercial battles between M$ and OSuX.

 

There is not class in advertising. Neither Apple nor MS has class when it comes to advertising. It is all about making your product look better by mostly putting the other guy down. Name a Apple ad that has not done that. Really Apple need to get rid of the MS dude and start focusing on there products to. They advertise MS too. Even though it is negative advertising, sometimes negative advertising is your best friend.

Apple, Linux, MS are all great products. Advertising will differ from each product. Each side will bash the others advertising campaign. At the end of the day the real question should be, did it reach the masses.

 

These adds make me angry because it just isn't realistic anymore. all computers can run all current OS's, unless there is something i don't know about.

The fact that they are still perpetuating this mac vs pc trend is a shame. Even my supposedly tech savvy RA is buying into this nonsense.

Bit off topic, but I even had a dream about buying a macbook pro last night, and I have refused to give Steve Jobs any of my money, EVER.

 

Here's one for ya right here. Apple is only advertising the Macbook. And if you want another every iPod and iPhone ad showcases only the iPod and iPhone and never mentions being better than their competition.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/#ad

 

And that is a great ad and how all ads should be. But in the past Apple has a poor reputation for taking cheap shots. MS are taking shots but they are not exactly below the belt.

 

I got your point however I'm not so sure Apple's Get a Mac ads are hitting below the belt. What Apple's ads are doing is attacking the real world problems of owning a PC. This forum can say a PC has minimal issues because being the geeks that we all are here we know how to maintain them but in real world situations the common Windows PC owner has all of the following on their PC:

Tons of Spyware
Malware
One or more viruses.
A cluttered and nearly clogged Registry
Wonky drivers or lack of updated ones.
Anti-Virus programs that slow the machine down.
Tons of trial software.

These customers with all of the above relate to Apple's ads rather than get offended by them. See, it's all about attacking the problem.

Microsoft's ads which mainly focus on what you can get for less focus on nonsense against Apple such as "Macs are pretty", "You have to be cool to own a Mac", "Macs cost a lot". None of these are REAL issues so not everyone but the cheapskate customer will relate to them.

 

I believe you can find those commercials online.

 

Yeah, that cracked me up too.

You can get the Sony FW with both Blu-Ray and the dedicated graphics card for under $1000 if you configure-to-order at sonystyle.com.

He could game on the MBP fine (if he also buys a copy of Windows), but it's out of their budget, unfortunately.


Anyways... I think this commercial is the best of the three in this series so far. Besides the screen size, they have something else you can't get on a Mac laptop (mid-range gaming capabilities) for under $1500. And as a nice bonus, they're getting Blu-Ray, which isn't available right now on a Mac at any price.

But maybe it also works for me, because... the Sony FW is a laptop that I wouldn't mind having myself.

 

You should reread what I said. I said that supposedly couldnt game on (which I meant his mom wouldnt think that he couldnt game on a mac).

I find it ironic that in the end, they chose a PC equivalent in quality to an Apple notebook a Sony Vaio.

 

Unless it's a Windows machine, in which case registry rot and malware has made it so slow as to be unusable. I am only half joking, I have seen this many times.

 

Only too true. I am often asked to fix people's machines, and nearly all machines of people that are not geeks look like this.

Ok maybe Spyware and viruses are not on all of them, only some.

But clogged registry and AV software I am convinced is the main reason people want to upgrade their machines to something "faster". They don't know a re-install of Windows would do.

 

I thought sony only had low end to medium range graphics cards in their laptops. So how can it be a gaming laptop?

 

The card offered in the Sony FW is similar to the graphics card in your MBP. It's not a "gaming laptop", but it can play some games.

 

Again, I felt that this ad wasn't bad. When they start deciphering stuff they might find issues again (like the HDX and portability, battery life, etc.), but to the average consumer its catching and (probably best of all) consistent to all the previous ads.

 

Yeah, I no doubt could. In fact, it would probably be more efficient than watching TV. But I'm just not motivated to look for them... but watching the basketball games at a friend's house, I saw a Windows commercial.

Actually, I think we are getting some channels right now, but.... meh.

 

IMO,the Idea is nice,but 5$ scenario and 10$ actors,that fake excitement for serious ad=FAIL!and they are repeating themselves already...And they still don't explain why Win is better then Mac OS...

 

i can sum up microsoft's main message in a few words: you're all broke. our stuff's cheaper. the end.

 

This time, they picked out a legit PC/laptop.

 

ati3650, 1900x1080, bluray

i am not sure what more i can ask for in a 1500 package, if they had that when i was in the market for a notebook; which they only had 3470, i wouldn't have bought this macbook pro at all....

i love the resolution as i don't game much and i get benefit from that and being able to watch HD movies

i don't regard getting apple, but if i can choose again, sony gets my vote.

ps. please let this kind of MS is raging war against apple type of thread, there had been dozens more flame war from apple and they don't even last 1/3 of the length of something like this...

anyways, have fun

 

Go to SonyStyle and build the FW390 to your needs... it should be under $1500.00.

 

you should really sell your mbp,forget about it and get sony :yes:

And D,you can get mbp for 1500 from ebay.

EDIT:how can I still respect M$ after this?paying someone to make a comparison as ridiculous as this=FAIL^2!!!

 

Microsoft aren't even trying to make sense with their ads anymore.

"Mac's, they're kind of popular at his age (the kids)".

Yeah, mac's are a kids computer. Idiot.

Then there's the past ads when some guy wanted something that had to be very portable and have lots of power, and then walked out with a HP that would get 2 hours of battery life tops.

I prefer the mac ads.

 

so basically,M$ says that mac are incredibly sexy,cute,popular and for cool people...

 

My mom used to argue with my dad that "a learning tool" was more important than "gaming".

My dad responded that with the right guidance ANYTHING is a learning tool.

Given what I do for a living, and the fact gaming was a prime motivator to learn what I needed to learn, it seems as if my dad was right.


For a younger person, I have to say that macbooks (and especially the unibody ones) are just plain a really bad idea.

Given the fragility of the unibody macs, a $900 ASUS that will take a beating and still work AND game circles around the mac AND be a learning tool sure beats a $2700 mac.
(especially a $2700 brick)

If you are going to get a laptop for a younger person, I'd suggest one that doesn't brick on the slightest knock.

 

You might be one of the rare ones that gaming motivated you to do whatever is that you do in your current work but not like the millions of others who are addicted to games and even become anti social that causes many other problems as adults.

If you read studies about gaming, that more than half most kids or people get sucked into gaming due to social issues.

I'm not saying all but in general because there are people that are gamers who live normal healthy lives.

I'm saying that there is nothing wrong with playing games as a kid, I've done so with NES and SNES, Sega, etc and I'm just fine BUT I wouldnt want my 10 year old kid to have his own personal pc to play games without my knowledge. At least with a console I can limit him per day.

Thats what I love about Macs, there arnt many shoot em up kill type games that you can install under OSX. There are a lot of learning type games on the Mac for children (I've always seen those dora or kid learning sesame street type fun games I've seen at the Apple store, where the little kids play on the imacs).

Also I think kids can learn a whole lot more with safari alone as a learning tool. I dont know about windows but I've never seen a feature like this one thats on safari as to any other browser. When you are reading an article and you come to a word that you do not understand you can actually place your mouse/cursor over that word and press, control + command + d and it will define that word right then and there for you. Same with a built in dictionary/thesaurus in osx.

 

Easy tiger. The message is saying that there is better value in buying a MS equipped machine. Who cares if the actors are payed or not. Can you really prove they are payed. I remember when the Mac dude from the Mac commercials was caught in Best Buy buying a PC. Does that make every Mac commercial false. NO. They are just commercials to help bring recognition. I am sure MS will poor even more gas on the fire when 7 gets released for the fact that how good it is.

 

too late, i don't like change things every so often

 

lol, i like this ad. its so ridiculous, it brings me goosebumps !

for us that is tech-savvy, we can see right through the lies, but i'm afraid, most people will get sucked in by this.

*brrrrr* "YES!!!" x.x *brrrr*

"you find it you keep it"

i think i throw up a little in my mouth *gulp*

but on M$ defence, i suppose apple started all this.

 

i feel fooled by this ad. The boy wants a gaming pc and buys one with a mid range graphics card. what a shame.

 

That's an insult against mac. We apple have never treated M$ like that.

 

I'm with you on this one. At least with an ASUS, you can get accidental protection and still come out cheaper than the Mac. So your kid could run the laptop over with his 4 wheeler and you'll still be covered. Considering how kids and even adults treat their electronics, this seems like a sensible option.

I got into the IT through gaming also. My first game was this really old flight SIM called Red Baron. Played it on an old XT.