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    Microsoft strikes again!

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by fastrandstrongr, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Luke1708

    Luke1708 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    my first computer game was red alert 1 i think. i've forgotten a bit. i got my first pc when in the year 2000.
     
  2. fastrandstrongr

    fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist

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    lol. what?
     
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    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist

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    Xirurg ORLY???

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    Ah, you are indeed right. I had read that this morning and assumed it was related. I would have thought it would have been long since admitted the non-unibody Macs could form cracks. :confused:

    But I must say the unibody Macs I've seen in person seemed solid. :cool:

    Me neither. :p
     
  7. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    Oh,they are best notebooks in the word!you should get 3 macbooks and 7 mbp :D :p

    Joking aside,I still think that Apple should start offering blu-ray since it turns out to be a deal breaker for lots of people
     
  8. Captain Fail

    Captain Fail Notebook Evangelist

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    Can't understand why everyone wants Blu-Ray in notebooks? It doesn't do anything yet?

    Blu-Ray offers no better quality than DVD's on notebooks, and blank disks are too expensive and irrelevent to use as a storage medium yet?

    Blu-Ray is the DVD of the future, but the future isn't here yet, and it's not cheap enough yet.
     
  9. killeraardvark

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    I watch Blu-Ray on my TV from my laptop and the quality is awesome and way better than a DVD.
     
  10. Captain Fail

    Captain Fail Notebook Evangelist

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    I was referring to watching a Blu-Ray movie on a notebook. You won't notice a difference from a DVD....
     
  11. Tippey764

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    Although i hate apple these ad's are just as bad as apples stupid ad's where they make false claims about pc's
     
  12. Jervis961

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    This ads are boring now, they need to find something new to say instead of rewording the same lines. As for Blu-ray, I wouldn't bother buying one when I can download HD movies cheaper. Even MS is betting that Blu-ray is going to fizzle.
     
  13. chyidean

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    I have precisely zero of those problems and neither do my friends.
     
  14. killeraardvark

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    I will second that.
     
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    I wish I could have said that when I was a Windows user, maybe I wouldn't have switched. Its safe to say that there will be users with problems and users without them with any OS. We just have to remember that our own experience doesn't apply to everyone.

    Aren't we getting off topic again though?
     
  16. jjahshik32

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    +1 for me too. I dont know why people want bluray on a notebook. I understand on a desktop machine for maybe pros to use bluray discs for editing and storing but I dont understand why a bluray player on a notebook.

    Just buy a Ps3 and keep the adult (bluray movies) and kid (games) happy.
     
  17. jjahshik32

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    d
    Sometimes you may think you have none of these issues but it might be running in the background.

    Either that and since you belong on a notebook forum and tech savvy type forums, I doubt your "the average consumer."

    I met people who have no clue what firefox is. How scary is that.

    To top that I met someone before who loves high spec'd pc notebooks but he only upgrades every couple years after his computer stops working. And his definition of not working is that his webpages wont load or his windows wont start up but nothing is actually wrong with his hardware, its the viruses he gets and he doesnt know what to do about it since he has so many.

    He's tried all the virus scanners money can buy still no help. Sometimes virus scanners arnt enough if your truly f*cked with many viruses.

    He just buys new computers just to replace a virus ridden notebook.

    I know to many of us here that sounds insane because you can just format most of the time and just get rid of the virus or "contain" it with a free avg virus scanner or something but these people have no clue.
     
  18. fastrandstrongr

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    fixed it for you.
     
  19. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    I basically agree with this, at least to some extent. It's not a problem for me, but it is a problem for some non-techies. Vista improved the situation (automatic defrag, automatic spyware scans, better overall security) compared to XP, but Vista isn't in itself a complete solution.

    I think Mac can be a good choice for people who want fewer malware and other OS-maintenance issues... and don't mind being restricted to using a relatively small selection of somewhat expensive hardware.

    For me, it isn't worth it. But I can see how it might appeal to some people. However, I have no issue with Microsoft running commercials that point out the main downside of their competitor's platform.
     
  20. jjahshik32

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    I hate it when people say that OSX have less malware when in actuality something like 99.999999% of people using macs in the real world probably ever face any type of malware or viruses.
     
  21. swarmer

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    Well, I could have phrased it better as "fewer issues related to OS maintenance or malware"... but still, I really can't say how many Mac users will ever face any type of malware. I mean, looking backward, what you say is correct, but... for people buying computers today, will the near-total lack of malware afflicting Macs remain true for the next 3-4 years? Maybe, or maybe not... I really could never promise anyone that. But I would feel confident in saying that the amount of malware for Mac will almost certainly not catch up to Windows during that time period.
     
  22. HLdan

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    Let me guess based on your sig, now I could be wrong and feel free to correct me, however since you have a custom built PC I'm figuring you built it right? Well my earlier post, if you read all of it, mentions that geeks, which make up all of this forum, will mention that they have very little or even no issues with Windows.
    The rest of the non-geek world running Windows are common home and business users who do have these issues which is very common for a Windows PC. Please, stop trying to create a fake reality of Windows, for most people's daily lives it's not like a breath of fresh air.
     
  23. HLdan

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    Maybe because you don't start up your PC. Read my entire previous post on this, you don't qualify. :p
     
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    You really are the one making the fake reality for Windows. It is true in the past that there have been some real issues and I am not saying they are all gone but it is not as bad as a lot of you are saying. I run into people here and there that have issues but I solve there issues pretty quickly. The pre XP days were horrible for Windows and then XP came along and fixed a lot of issues. Vista has fixed a lot more issues and I really don't see hardly any major issues any more, at least on the scale it was 5 years ago. The one thing that had given Windows a bad name is the stuff that manufactures install on a new system. Not the fault of Windows. Every custom system or install i do for someone, I will never see them back. People need to quit bashing MS for a lot of crap on their new system and start at the source which would be HP, Dell, Sony and all the others. They are they ones that put the crap on systems.
     
  25. surfasb

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    Common? I have yet to see stats that prove that. I remember that report that published the stat that 1 in 4 PCs have had malware or a virus. The report asked people if they had EVER had a piece of malware or virus. There was no breakdown of the severity of the infection. Nor was there a breakdown of the downtime the infection caused. In my almost 20 years of computing, I've been struck with one virus, the CoolWeb virus. My little cousins have been struck with a total of 0 viruses and malware in their 7 years of Windows computing. I hear "horror" stories, yet see no hard stats.

    But I digress.
     
  26. killeraardvark

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    True that. A lot of this is really just hear say and made up and blown up. It is the Apple forum, what ya expect.
     
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    You and your 20 years and your little cousins does not make up the whole general population of windows/pc users. :rolleyes:

    I've been using PCs for 20 years as well, probably had 20-25 or even more viruses on accident usually from warez stuff back in the day. I just knew what to do to get rid of them and correct the issues. Few times I had to ditch hdds and get a new one.

    Anyway, I've seen or met at least 50 people in the last 5 years that have been infected with some sort of trojan/malware/viruses.

    And every single person I've talked to that uses a Mac, viruses/pop up/malware/trojan talks NEVER happen.

    Actually I havnt even literally thought about the word virus in the last 4 years of switching over to the Mac.
     
  29. killeraardvark

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    It is funny that you mentioned warez sites. That is one of the biggest places to get viruses and a large majority of people that I have dealt with get viruses from such a site as with the naughty naughty sites. Stay away from them. What the heck people.
     
  30. jjahshik32

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    Hey when your 14-16 years old back in the day warez was all we had before all this private/public torrent business. :p
     
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    That is way true. Thankfully a lot of it has been cleaned up or at least there are reputable places to go.
     
  32. Jervis961

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    Amazingly MS discovers that its newest OS is more secure based on its own research. :rolleyes:

    I never found any problems on a system using MS' malicious software tool because I had already taken care of it using third party software. Of course there is going to be a decrease in instances. MS' regularly fudges studies to make themselves look better, just look at the study on "Apple tax" they recently paid for which is highly inaccurate. ;)
     
  33. Budding

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    I think everyone has clearly expressed their opinions and justified their point, so this thread is closed since it is going rather off topic.

    In regards to "Windows has no issues", I would like to add a bit of personal experience. My desktop (see sig) runs Windows Vista x64, and one day quite recently, the on board Realtek audio suddenly stopped working for no reason. I know it was not a hardware issue, since it still worked fine in my dual boot OS, but I just couldn't hear anything in Vista no matter what I did. Being tech savvy, I reinstalled sound drivers (both the original ones that came with the board and new ones from Realtek/Asus), flashed and updated BIOS, reinstalled the chipset, ran System Restore, Windows Repair, diagnostics, and anything else I could think of.
    Of course, I suppose that reinstalling Vista would have fixed the problem, but I didn't want to go through the process of reinstalling all my applications and restoring all my files.

    In the end, I fixed it by just buying a sound card.

    So in summary, although the hardware options when it comes to Mac are significantly limited, the possibility of me experiencing such frustrations would be significantly less frequent, if ever. The bluetooth module did break on my Macbook after two years of use, but that was a hardware issue, and giving it back to Apple for a few days had it fixed.

    If you want to say argue that my situation was a one-off, then I could agree with Vista, since I haven't been using it for too long (6 months ish). But, you definitely don't want to get me started on my experiences with XP.
     
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