New MBP Heat Issue question

According to the PCMag review of the New MBP ( http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332514,00.asp) it has some heat issues when running windows, with the P9500, 2.53Ghz (paragraph 13). I plan on doing a good amount of gaming and watching videos in OS X and Windows via Bootcamp. Originally I was going to get the T9600 (2.8Ghz) for the extra power, but if the P9500 got hot, will the higher clocked T9600 cause real heat problems?

 

The T9600 is rated for 35w heat dissipation while the P9500 is rated for 25w, which means yes, heat issues may be even worse.

-J.B.

 

A few members here have the new MBP, hopefully some first hand accounts will come in soon!

 

yep! I'm waiting for WillyG's review

 

Just wondering, if I get the P9500, 2.53Ghz, will that be powerful enough for playing next-gen games, watching HD videos, and good photo/video editing?

 

more than enough

 

You need to understand that the CPU doesn't prevent you from playing games. It's all about balance. You can have the X9000 CPU, but if you have a GMA X3100, you still can't play games. There's no point in paying $300 for the extra 0.26 GHz increase in clock speed. Also, your MBP will not get hot during HD video playback because the GPU handles the decoding and the CPU usage never goes above 20%.

 

I don't think Quicktime has GPU-accelerated playback. At least not for H.264.

 

If the P9500 is enough power, is it a good idea to get it over the T9600, because it will run slightly cooler? Does it improve battery life at all? I know that most things I do are GPU intensive, but will having a 2.8Ghz CPU vs a 2.53Ghz CPU improve performance in anyway - faster websurfing, faster saving of documents, faster dowloads/installation, etc?

P.S. Money is not an issue, so this is not an "is it worth it for the price" comparison, just purely heat/performance.

 

P9500 is more than enough power, seriously (with double the L2 Cache size of the P8600), even P7350 and P8400 would be enough to handle all those applications you would run, all these Pxxx series should run cooler because of being 25W compared to the Txxx series 35W....lower wattage thus means better battery life for the Pxxx series (not sure how much better though)....if things you do are GPU intensive....you should be more concern about the GPU as the the small difference between 2.8 GHz and 2.53 GHz will virtually have so small a difference that it is barely noticeable outside the benchmarks (thus not worth the price).....faster websurfing, faster saving of documents, faster dowloads/installation, etc depends not only on CPU but RAM and Hard Drive too....so save money on CPU if you can as the new CPUs are powerful enough to handle anything....I suggest upgrading RAM would worth the price as compared to upgrading CPU (ex. 2GB to 4GB)....but if money is not an issue....go ahead with all the best things they say

 

The 2.53Ghz MacBook comes with 4GB DDR3 RAM standard, and the 9600M GT GDDR3 is powerful enough for me. Basically my questions is; is the (slight?) decrease in battery life, and possible heat issues (if the PCMag review is to be believed) that comes with the T9600, worth the performance boost?

 

No, it is not.

 

I second that.

The 2,4ghz MBP is the most price worthy, just add 4gig ram and a 7200rpm and your good to go. The gfx wont take advantage of the 512ddr3 since its a 128bit card, and from the tests out there there is barely a difference performance wise between the 2,4ghz and the 2,53ghz processor, so save yourself a couple of hundred bucks and heat damages and get the 2,4ghz model.

 

I have a p9500 in my m860tu. It's excellent at everything. Remember, it's just 3 processors down from the highest rated mobile processor, the x9100.

 

Definitely enough, its a very powerful processor!

 

Most people won't see a difference in the increase in cylces per second speed (Ghz). It is mostly a marketing gimmick. Sure, it is faster, but that doesn't tell you how much faster.

The 2.53Ghz dual core chip is fast. They are all fast. You won't see a serious increase in performance in moving up in processor unless you are doing some intense applications. If you aren't sure if you are using intense applications, you aren't.

Spend your money on RAM, not CPU.

 

It's not really about money. I want the fastest computer possible, because MBPs are never quite top of the line, and I don't want mine to be outdated soon. Will using the P9500 over the T9600 increase battery life at all; is it substantial, or hardly noticeable? Also, how much cooler will the P9500 run (degrees Fahrenheit please)? Will the notebook get hot while gaming in Windows no matter what processor I use?

 

Isn't the 2.53GHz CPU in the new MBP an Intel T9400 and not an Intel P9500?

 

No, it's a P9500, the T9400 has a 35W TDP.

 

Are you sure? I think even in the PCMag review you listed in the 1st post, they listed the MBP as having an Intel T9400 in their graphics benchmark...

 

According to some owners on this forums it's the P9500. I which someone would resolve this. (maybe just post a picture of the CPU Tab in System Profiler)

 

This is confusing . I'd like to see a proper answer myself...this question has been brought up a ton lately.

 

not trying to thread jack.. but i have a quick question. Will there be major speed differences when running cpu intensive programs. I currently own a dell precision which i use to render models hours at a time. Rendering things usually maxes the processor out 100% for many hours strait. I'm going to buy a mac book pro soon.. just wondering if there is a huge difference between 2.5 and 2.8.

 

Difference between them is probably on the order of 10-15% in terms of task completion time. Whether that amounts to a signficant delta for you, well......