Hey guys I don't really understand all this benchmark comparison stuff and how it relates to playing graphics intensive games. so my question is what is the most graphics demanding game that the new macbook (2.0ghz) can run. crysis (highly doubt), cod4, counter strike, pacman?
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lol pacman. It scores 2277 in 3dmark06 in 1024*768. Playing Crysis would only be possible at the lowest settings.
It performs very similar to Ati HD3470 and Nvidia 9300M GS with DDR3 RAM. (a little bit over 2000 in 3D Mark06 at 1280*720) -
check this out-
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=310059 if 9200gs can play it... -
I'm no gamer myself but I thought 18fps frames per second is not really playable?
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Crysis is surprisingly very playable at around 20fps
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Cysis is even playable ~16 FPS interesting,right?
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For 13" I think these two LGs win, the LG P300 has an 8600M GS and the LG P310 has a 9600M GT (exact same spec as the higher spec MBP). Currently I'm torn between the P310 and getting the new MBP.
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so it's expected WoW would run on full settings ?
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It will run Crysis on medium to high on 1920x1200 at around 40 fps. It's a very powerful card.
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Most of the eye-candy stuff can be turned on I bet, but the AA stuff will probably be limited to FSAA 4x max and sub 20 fps.
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This is a big claim you make here and I beg to differ. Unless you provide some solid proof there's no way I believe the 9400M will run Crysis at THAT resolution on medium-high. No.
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Lol he was being sarcastic...
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Just an FYI, I tried the Civ IV Mac demo and it ran nearly perfectly at native res and max settings. Little bit of slowdown as the camera pans, but it's never below what looks like 15 fps.
I have to study for two quizzes tonight, but I'll try out some more demos as I get time. Keep in mind they will be Mac only games as I don't currently have a copy of Windows laying around to install on here. If I ever do, I may load up The Orange Box and let you know. -
Haha yea I knew someone was going to think I was serious. Anyways... The 9400GT should be able to Run WOW pretty well, but not on full settings. My friend plays on his MBP with the X1600 and he runs it fine on medium settings. You might be able to get away with high but I'm leaning towards medium. I am a framerate nazi though so I like to keep everything running 45+ at all times.
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Apple has never prided itself on gaming, and doesn't build systems optimized for gaming. Their systems are optimized for productivity in design, graphics creation, video production, etc...
The whole platform works with the OS to create a machine that will perform fantastically with less "spec" than Wintel machines.
I have quad core G5 with "only" 2gigs of ram and it smokes.
It will run XP better, faster, and more stable than Dell systems we have as well. My G5 will start and be ready to run XP in 1 minute.
Most Wintel systems, optimized for XP, can't even do that.
If anyone wants a powerful gaming setup, then you're barking up the wrong tree with a Macbook. At least go with the entry level MBpro.
It has the onboard graphics and the new dedicated GT card from Nvidia.
The system will use the onboard graphics in low graphic use like surfing, email, office suite, etc...
If you are doing more graphic intensive things like photo manipulation, video editing/processing, etc... you can boot the system with the dedicated graphics card.
Booting into Windows will use the dedicated GT card.
When the new Snow Leopard OS comes Mac says that it will use the graphics onboard & card to optimize performance even it's not video related.
Interesting. We'll see how that works.
If it will do that, them I'm sure there will be a way to use the onboard graphics engine along with the dedicated card to improve graphics performance all around.
Apple is forward thinking, and the way they build their products is top of the line. That in itself costs money.
When my Wintel coworkers and friends actually look inside the G5 or mac laptops they are amazed and impressed with the actual construction.
Yeah, it looks like overkill, but it takes materials, effort, time, and money to build that kind of quality. -
How are you running Windows on a G5? Virtually?
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So much bull**** in that post but i'll let it go... Anyways, I'll try to get benchmarks for the OP.
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I was wondering the same thing... how'd you run Windows on a non-Intel Mac system?
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They say smoking weed makes your 10 year old G3 Powerbook run Windows Vista faster then any PC notebooks on the market today.
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I'd aprecciate some in game benchmarks.
Sofar we've seen the 3DMark '06 score in 1280*720 is 2054. Similar to ATI 3470 and Nvidia 9300M GS.
Can't help but react. I have here a 3 year old Asus laptop with 1,6GHz intel Pentium-M, it boots windows within 34 seconds, and then it's completely ready. With some tweaking I've been able to get to 26.7 seconds. I'm not bs-ing as you can see in the screenshot. Measured with XP Boottimer.Attached Files:
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Haha, very funny
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The G5 is a Intel Xeon processor so it will run, it just wont be quicker because honestly half of that stuff won't effect the boot time. I can get a Quad Core CPU, 6GB Ram, 9800GT, 750GB 7200RPM for $1150
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I'm trying to keep track of any available benchmarks in my site:
http://optimitza.cat/news/2008/10/16/nvidia-geforce-9400m-benchmarks/
Not much at the moment... I'm following this topic too, so if you can find or perform any more benchmarks, please post them and I'm going to compile them.
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powermac G5's were not intel xeons....they were IBM dual core G5's, and the quad core version simply used 2 chips...the current powermacs use intel xeons, but the G5's were most certainly not "xeons" .... and most certainly couldnt run bootcamp to load windows
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Yeah, that's what I remember... they were PowerPC-based:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5
Nvidia 9400M performance on New Macbooks. how fast?
Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Phil, Oct 14, 2008.