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    Proof that Microsoft Vista did not rip off Mac OSX

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by miss_thick, May 27, 2007.

  1. miss_thick

    miss_thick Notebook Enthusiast

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    lolz...this guy is a nutcase...

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  2. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I think he was being sarcastic. Vista has copied so much from OSX it's laughable. He forgot to throw in 3D Flip vs Expose'.
     
  3. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    That's funny, I don't like Mac OSX or Vista, hmmm maybe thats why I still use XP.
     
  4. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Although the journalist (whatever his name is) did point out similarities between the two operating systems, I can't say that I care whether MS copied OS X or not; it's a step forward, and thats what matters.
     
  5. coolhandluke

    coolhandluke Notebook Guru

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    The best proof that Vista did not rip off Mac OS X is that Vista pretty much sucks. :p
     
  6. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Co-Sign. :cool:

    I started a thread in the Windows OS forum where Vista created two system dump files at 58.3GB each and my T60 drive is only 160GB. So I used Vista's drive cleanup to delete both dump files and Vista literally deleted all my programs, part of the OS and data from my HD.

    So now i'm starting over.
     
  7. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Everyone is *****ing about how Microsoft copied mac and such. However, most mac users don't realize that mac copied xerox's gui back in the day. Yes, I will admit that Microsoft copied Mac. However, most people seem to miss that Mac copied xerox awhile back.

    30 years from now... anything could happen and we will all forget about "Microsoft copied mac." Instead it could be, "Mac copied Microsoft".

    Edit: "Although the journalist (whatever his name is) did point out similarities between the two operating systems, I can't say that I care whether MS copied OS X or not; it's a step forward, and thats what matters."

    This isn't intended to pick on you guys, I'm just pointed out something that many people seem to miss.
     
  8. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thanks for your opinions Stone825! :)

    I believe he's David Pogue. Its a funny video.

    Microsoft's Vista does have lots of resemblances of Mac OS X, its true. But its just a little overhyped by the Mac ads. Personally, I think both companies have their say in the issue of "who copied who, who just managed to get it out first". Microsoft introduced some features first, but didn't manage to ship Vista until much later than anticipated. In that time, Apple managed to ship those features first.

    Just a thought, in 30 years Microsoft might not be in power anymore :p. Its a very likely case, Mac OS X and Linux will most likely take power.
     
  9. Mr.T

    Mr.T Notebook Consultant

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    LOL! I love this, but its true MS is moving forward and that is good. Also I hope yu guys all remember that before Steve cme back to Mac they weren't doing too well.
     
  10. System64

    System64 Windows 7 x64

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    *sigh* Do they amount to plagiarism? :D
     
  11. sanpabloguy

    sanpabloguy Notebook Deity

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    Yep, it's David Pogue from the NY Times. I like his style.

    I really don't care too much what my OS looks like (plenty of skins available or, with a little CSS knowledge, you can make your own). As long as it's stable and can be made secure.

    Win steals from Mac who steals from Win. I'm sure there's even more code stolen/borrowed than what shows up on screen. Novell & MS anyone?
     
  12. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    I'm no Vista fan, but there is something called technological convergence. For certain things, there is a right way to do it that makes the most sense or is the most efficient. Pointing out things like integrated search is stupid because that's the best way to be able to search for files. I think things like the chess game and Calender programs show how Vista copied OS X better; certain apps such as Calender and Mail are nearly carbon copies of OS X's respective apps.
     
  13. steve_emb

    steve_emb Notebook Consultant

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    Who cares who stole from who? If mac made good choices and had good ideas and if windows stole them then it only benifits those who know only of windows and it should be a good thing. Everyone wins! And besides, Microsoft will never produce an OS as good as apple so mac fanboys should give it a rest, why should they be bothered, they should just bask in the knowledge that apple will always out do windows.

    Another point is, some of the so called 'Stolen' features where bound to pop up anyway for example the 'copy' of spotlight search, its something all OS's should have.

    I also think that vista has been ripped apart far too much. From a mac fanboy point of view, it may be total crap and its really isnt that bad. Its an OS, and its a decent one, ive used it for months and havent found a complaint to date. No it will never be as good as os x but from an average consumers point of view, its 'cool' its 'new' and its actually an alright operating system. With time people will come to realise that os x really is the way (I hope) but until then, I congratulate microsoft with Vista and atealst it is a step towards a really great Operating System and average consumers should enjoy it.
     
  14. orthorim

    orthorim Notebook Evangelist

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    You say they copied so much - I say they didn't copy nearly enough.

    Lets take the user interface. They made it different from XP, so much so that it takes a while to get used to it. Unfortunately they didn't make it better. They didn't make it faster to use, easier to use or less of a chaotic mess than Windows XP. They just made it a different mess.

    A single detail in OS X - the wireless networking control in the menu bar. You click on the icon, down plops a list of available networks, you select one, boom you are connected. It's not possible to make this process simpler or more elegant. It's not even genius - it's obvious that this is the best way.

    Win XP is a little more clunky - it takes 3 clicks to get to the same point where OS X takes 1 click.

    ubuntu linux used to be worse than XP - it was a bad copy of the XP version. Until now - in ubuntu 7, they copied the OS X control. As they should - it's simple, it's obvious and it's the best solution.

    Now Vista. What takes 1 click in OS X and ubuntu, and 3 in XP takes about 10 in Vista. There's dialogs on the way (sure you want to connect? want to save the connection? whatever..?!?). The initial dialog has all other networks jumbled in as well (bluetooth, modem, or ethernet) etc. I can't remember the exact sequence, but I do remember counting the clicks and it was 10.

    Progress? No. Rather the opposite.
     
  15. WiseDuck

    WiseDuck Notebook Consultant

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    So, how long is this debate going to go on?

    Some people like Windows.
    Some like OSX.

    It's a matter of personal preference. But this 'war' that's going on between the fanboys is just damn annoying.

    I use XP, and will switch to Vista soon. Why? Because I feel comfortable with it. I have used Windows all my life, and right now I see no reason whatsoever to switch to another OS. I am fine as it is. Period.
     
  16. rbg08

    rbg08 Notebook Consultant

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    If I could install OSX in my own custom-built system, then I might be interested in converting. But Apple's greedy business plan of making you buy their overpriced (and unattractive, IMO) hardware in order to use their OS will keep me and most computer users away.
     
  17. Rodster

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    I'm not an Apple apologist so i'll shoot straight. It's true that some of the hardware seems overpriced but playing devil's advocate I remember lot's of people saying similar things about IBM only to find out they were losing lot's of money and sold the business to Lenovo.

    I doubt Apple will go the Sculley route again because Apple would lose profits from selling their hardware.

    p.s. I like Apple's hardware design. :)
     
  18. steve_emb

    steve_emb Notebook Consultant

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    Apple's reliable OS stems from the fact that they only distribute it on certain hardware. If apple started applying os x to any old machine like windows then it would have problems just like windows users face like driver trouble and te operating system not working with hardware like it should.

    Windows should be praised for its compatibility for such a vast range of hardware.
     
  19. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Amen brother i've been saying that for years. :cool:
     
  20. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    I agree that it is not easy to make an OS compatible with virtually anything, and I applaud Microsoft for that.

    But you and Rodknee seem to think that it isn't Microsoft's fault that Windows has so many driver issues and stuff. It is Microsoft's fault. They should've thought about these problems before licensing Windows to basically everyone. They chose quantity over quality. They should also be scolded for not growing "steadily", keeping OSes stable without driver issues and other problems, instead they grew at such a rate they decided they'll just cash in now and worry about driver issues as people find them.
     
  21. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I've always been of the belief that drivers should be the primary responsibility of the equipment manufacturer. Windows still does a decent job during every initial OS release and builds on it during it's life cycle thru updates, but drivers should fall squarely on the companies who make devices for Windows like nVidia or ATi.

    Recently I installed Vista Ultimate on my new T60 during the install Vista found 95% of all drivers on my Thinkpad with the exception of my fingerprint reader and power management drivers. Not to shabby for a new OS. In the years (since 2001) i've used Windows XP and i'm a hardcore gamer i've had 2 BSOD (memory related) and the OS has been impeccable.

    Vista is new so the jury is still out but it should be up there with XP. :)