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    Psystar Drops Antitrust Complaint against Apple, Claims Copyright Laws Abuse

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by aan310, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    from: http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Psys..._Apple_Claims_Copyright_Laws_Abuse_31026.html
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Boo hoo, cry me a river psystar. :cry:
     
  3. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    ^ This lawsuit should not stop people from questioning whether what Apple does with their OS is legal.
     
  4. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    honestly, i dislike OSX... but if people want it, they should be able to pay $$ for it, and use it... just my opinion...
     
  5. livesoft

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    I love Engadget :D
    For anyone who wants to read: the PDF is here: http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/pg/fd_2008/show_temp_4.pl.pdf

    As the quote said, they probably won't get too far.
     
  6. aan310

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    i think this whole thing is just turning ridiculous.

    if someone wants to use osx, get a mac. if they dont want to pay the price for one, tough luck.
     
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    Psystar is really getting more and more ridiculous.

    From their filing:
    They are probably right that it's hard to develop a new OS from scratch. But that doesn't justify stealing someone else's.

    Their filing also mentions that OS X checks to see whether it's running on Intel Core/Core 2 processors and whether it's on an Apple system and will fail to boot if it isn't. How is this malicious? It's called system requirements. There are plenty of software that check for system requirements and fail to install or work if they aren't met. System requirements are there because the software is only designed, tested, and warrantied for certain system configurations, in this case Apple systems. If they didn't have system requirements and check them and it failed to work, then Apple would be liable.

    In terms of copyright law, I'm pretty sure some of the fundamental rights are distribution rights, ie. controlling how your material is disseminated, and the right to revoke a license. I don't really see where Psystar is going with this.
     
  9. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    One thought I had.....Apple's EULA states that MacOSX can only be used on Apple branded "hardware".....meaning every piece of hardware on a Mac has to be Apple branded....not Intel branded, such as their processors. :confused:
     
  10. aan310

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    that, and wouldn't that mean if you change HDD and ram you are not allowed to use OSX?
     
  11. pacmandelight

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    Imagine if Microsoft forced Windows on Microsoft-only hardware. All the Apple fanboys would be shunning Microsoft.

    Apple fanboys = too blinded to see fairness and truth
     
  12. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    if windows worked that way, i wouldn't have bought a mac, because windows would be better...

    i agree that it sucks having to pay more, but its also nice having something that tends to work rather than tends to break.
     
  13. Deathwinger

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    Mac tends to work and break as much as PC does. What's your point? You spent more money for no reason.
     
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    Here we go again...
    This is not about the OS itself, wherever it is good or not, its about the Apple's EULA (which has another thread already here) and Psystar idea to compete against Apple.

    Since the first day I heard about Psystar (about here), I knew Apple would sue them one day. The idea is good to give OS X on some cheaper platform and I would buy one if I had the money (or maybe I prefer another laptop :p) but its obvious their aguments arent solid enough.
     
  15. aan310

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    and while i agree psystar should get sued hard...


    i still think that if people want to use a (inferior imo) os, they should not ahve to pay more $ for inferior hardware (come on, a MBP speced in a PC lappy is like $900 compared to like $1,700 and the macbook is like a $500 PC laptop... if that)



    And for a note... the Apple needs to stop making fun of "PCs" because a Macbook is a Personal Computer.. isn't it?

    and btw... im not an Anti mac fanboy... i own ipods, and find macs very sexy... i just have some qualms :p
     
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    I can see why threads like this exist, to promote a news item. But after that it just goes into windows fanboys coming and just bashing apple and osx.

    Can we honestly not have a thread with apple bashing?

    pacmandelight: There is not such thing as "Microsoft-only hardware". Microsoft makes WINDOWS, they dont make PC hardware (you know what i mean, dont get into technicalities about joysticks or mice.) Apple makes and sells their hardware and their os. If apple says to install the software on apple only hardware, then they should have the right to.

    Deathwinger: Do you have stats on this? Im not saying that they dont break as much or not. But dont go throwing around random statements without anything to back it up. And that statement is impossible to back up.

    aan310: OSX isnt "inferior", i dont know where you got this idea from. like honestly, both os's have their strengths and their flaws. but inferior? Yea we all know about the apple tax, okay? Theres been discussion on if its actually valid or not already.

    And yea, macs are "pcs" but people call apple computers "macs" and non apple computers "pcs". Its just a syntax thing. pc is easier to say then "non apple computer" or something else like that.

    Meh, I guess im sparking more argument, but you get sick and tired of people coming and just saying random crap for no good reason.

    Can we keep this thread focused on psystar and not just typical mac vs pc flamewars?
     
  17. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Good luck Psystar, I hope you win.
     
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    SPEEDwithJJ NBR Super Idiot

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    This law suit is interesting. I wonder whether Apple can really "handle it," if in the unlikely event they lost... :confused:
     
  19. aan310

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    i said its inferior imo... and for the record, i hate on windows as well :) fyi :p
     
  20. livesoft

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    If they lose, this would be the end of the world :p and it would open doors to other manufacturers. They were already winning for the antitrust, I don't see how they could lose about the copyright. After that, everyone will be back with OSx86.
     
  21. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    i also don't see how they could lose, but if they DID lose, they would be totally, utterly, screwed.
     
  22. talin

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    What ever happened to a company that reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason?
    I'm new to the Mac world, but I'm glad that OS X is meant for Apple hardware only. Functionally, my macbook runs great both in OS X and XP. It's fast and stable, and I haven't had a single crash yet. For me, XP has run better on my macbook than it ever did on any of my self-built desktops or my previous inspiron laptop, and OS X has been great as well. It's nice not having to reinstall or troubleshoot my computer for once. So I'm glad Apple is exclusive, and I hope it stays that way because I really think that if Apple opens it's OS to anyone, the quality will diminish substantially.
     
  23. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

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    Apparently Apple thinks there is some one bigger behind psystar, witch does make sense since they are still selling and going on with this.