Safari sucks...

Scrolling on a media heavy page (like NYT.com) causes stutters with FF3.5RC2 so I gave Safari a try. Fast? Yes. No scrolling problems and loads faster. However I get beachballed randomly. Was just browsing Headfi.org and it died twice and have to force quit.

 

Try trashing the safari preference file in ~/Library/Preferences. I'm assuming you're running Safari 4?

 

I did a full reset which should have done that.

 

There's known problems with flash in OSX. Flash support in OSX is very bad compared to the support in Windows.

Check your CPU ussage when scrolling through media/flash heavy websites.

 

I know about the flash problem. I dont think it is it though because it crashed twice on a forum.

 

I do get CPU spikes when I visit sites with flash content, but my browser remains fully operational and I never beachball, especially in Safari 4. So, chances are something is wrong with the Safari you're running or something else is slowing down your machine.

 

Well test out safari in another user.

 

Can't confirm that "Safari sucks" here either. Actually it is doing better than my test FF Shiretoko version at the moment

cheers ...

 

FF sucks for me. I would use Safari but I fell in love with the tree style tabs plugin for firefox.

 

I never has problem when I visit the above two website. Think before you complain.

 

I actually prefer Safari 4 to Firefox. I've never had any issues with it.

Tried those sites, work perfectly...

 

I don't like safari either, but then again I don't really like firefox that much either. I can't stand IE though. Come to think of it, I've yet to find a browser that I truly like.
Of the big three, I prefer firefox if I had to choose between them.

 

Have you tried Opera? I've used it and it's quite fast, but with the Mozilla interface. It's quite nice, if I might add. Also, it's pretty darn fast too.

 

Thats a pretty good idea. I havent used Opera in awhile might give it a try again if all else fails.

LOL. You think I like getting beachballs and complain because I am bored?

 

What a useful thread. Reinstall Safari. Reseting Safari is not going to restore preferences.

And think of a little more useful Thread title next time. . . shall we?

 

big FF fan, safari is still no match for FF.

 

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

Dont read it then I make it obvious that I am gonna complain about Safari from the thread title.

 

you complain that safari sucks because it crashes... when other people using the same version on the same pages don;t have crashes... maybe its not safari thats causing the crashes.

 

Try going to the Blueshield website in California and try doing an application online. Won't work then when you call them up they ask you if you are using a MAC

 

Well he says it sucks because other applications didn't crash...Its a logical conclusion that he makes based on the information that he knows. FF doesn't crash but Safari does. Who cares that you don't crash. If Safari was really that good then it would not crash. Personally I think FF and Chrome are the best browsers. Chrome is fast and lean but doesn't really offer easy plugin support. FF has the best plugins but crashes often when I have lots of tabs open. IE is just terrible. Opera is cool and stable but a bit slow...

 

Actually I just looked at the Apple support forums and there are others having hang/crash issues. I have a fresh install of OSX on the MBA and no plugins. It is possible that it may be something else though. However I never had any hang issue before until I started using Safari.

Anyway, where is the crash logs stored in OSX?

 

After reading this post, I had to pinch myself and check to make sure I wasn't in a Windows forum.

It sounds all to familiar from the "dark side"

 

Process: Safari [136]
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier: com.apple.Safari
Version: 4.0.1 (5530.18)
Build Info: WebBrowser-55301800~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [97]

Date/Time: 2009-06-23 10:02:57.463 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.7 (9J61)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: C0D7F918-9D32-4B74-9D4D-00FB3C66FF13

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000001c33063c
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 libRIP.A.dylib 0x9370989b mem_tag_release + 274
1 libRIP.A.dylib 0x936fdcf3 OGL_texture_find + 1729
2 libRIP.A.dylib 0x93700779 OGL_texture_image + 5550
3 libRIP.A.dylib 0x93701790 OGL_image + 2712
4 libRIP.A.dylib 0x936ee6f9 ripd_Mark + 326
5 libRIP.A.dylib 0x936e8977 ripl_BltImage + 1307
6 libRIP.A.dylib 0x936d2549 ripc_RenderImage + 273
7 libRIP.A.dylib 0x936e2e6a ripc_DrawImage + 5102
8 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x92f4d32d CGContextDrawImage + 397
9 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1e7ed WebCore::BitmapImage::draw(WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::FloatRect const&, WebCore::FloatRect const&, WebCore::CompositeOperator) + 717
10 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1e429 WebCore::GraphicsContext::drawImage(WebCore::Image*, WebCore::FloatRect const&, WebCore::FloatRect const&, WebCore::CompositeOperator, bool) + 297
11 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1e2ec WebCore::GraphicsContext::drawImage(WebCore::Image*, WebCore::IntRect const&, WebCore::IntRect const&, WebCore::CompositeOperator, bool) + 92
12 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1e281 WebCore::GraphicsContext::drawImage(WebCore::Image*, WebCore::IntRect const&, WebCore::CompositeOperator, bool) + 81
13 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1db5b WebCore::RenderImage: aintReplaced(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 1435
14 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b1d2c1 WebCore::RenderReplaced: aint(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 753
15 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b18822 WebCore::RenderBlock: aintChildren(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 322
16 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b181cd WebCore::RenderBlock: aintObject(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 605
17 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b199c6 WebCore::RenderBlock: aint(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 230
18 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b18822 WebCore::RenderBlock: aintChildren(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 322
19 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b181cd WebCore::RenderBlock: aintObject(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 605
20 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b199c6 WebCore::RenderBlock: aint(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 230
21 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b18822 WebCore::RenderBlock: aintChildren(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 322
22 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b181cd WebCore::RenderBlock: aintObject(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 605
23 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b199c6 WebCore::RenderBlock: aint(WebCore::RenderObject: aintInfo&, int, int) + 230
24 com.apple.WebCore 0x9514121b WebCore::RenderLayer: aintLayer(WebCore::RenderLayer*, WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::IntRect const&, bool, WebCore: aintRestriction, WebCore::RenderObject*, ::HashMap<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*, WebCore::IntRect, : trHash<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::IntRect> >*, bool, bool) + 3691
25 com.apple.WebCore 0x951409b7 WebCore::RenderLayer: aintLayer(WebCore::RenderLayer*, WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::IntRect const&, bool, WebCore: aintRestriction, WebCore::RenderObject*, ::HashMap<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*, WebCore::IntRect, : trHash<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::IntRect> >*, bool, bool) + 1543
26 com.apple.WebCore 0x951409b7 WebCore::RenderLayer: aintLayer(WebCore::RenderLayer*, WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::IntRect const&, bool, WebCore: aintRestriction, WebCore::RenderObject*, ::HashMap<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*, WebCore::IntRect, : trHash<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::OverlapTestRequestClient*>, ::HashTraits<WebCore::IntRect> >*, bool, bool) + 1543
27 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b16fc5 WebCore::RenderLayer: aint(WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::IntRect const&, WebCore: aintRestriction, WebCore::RenderObject*) + 117
28 com.apple.WebCore 0x94b16db3 WebCore::FrameView: aintContents(WebCore::GraphicsContext*, WebCore::IntRect const&) + 211
29 com.apple.WebKit 0x927b273c -[WebFrame(WebInternal) _drawRect:contentsOnly:] + 156
30 com.apple.WebKit 0x927b2304 -[WebHTMLView drawSingleRect:] + 388
31 com.apple.WebKit 0x927b20e2 -[WebHTMLView drawRect:] + 434
32 com.apple.AppKit 0x958b922c -[NSView _drawRect:clip:] + 3853
33 com.apple.AppKit 0x958b6a9d -[NSView _recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:topView:] + 1819
34 com.apple.WebKit 0x927b349e -[WebHTMLView(WebPrivate) _recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:topView:] + 286
35 com.apple.AppKit 0x958b74d3 -[NSView _recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:topView:] + 4433
36 com.apple.AppKit 0x958b2adf -[NSView _displayRectIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:] + 3090
37 com.apple.AppKit 0x957f34b3 -[NSView displayIfNeeded] + 933
38 com.apple.AppKit 0x9593f551 -[NSClipView _immediateScrollToPoint:] + 3985
39 com.apple.AppKit 0x9593e52a -[NSClipView scrollToPoint:] + 248
40 com.apple.AppKit 0x959ab653 -[NSScrollView scrollClipView:toPoint:] + 364
41 com.apple.AppKit 0x958d8b1a -[NSClipView _scrollTo:animate:] + 1095
42 com.apple.AppKit 0x959d5a62 -[NSScrollView _doScroller:hitPart:multiplier:] + 989
43 com.apple.AppKit 0x959d564a -[NSScrollView _doScroller:] + 76
44 com.apple.AppKit 0x958c24cb -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 112
45 com.apple.Safari 0x0004ccbb 0x1000 + 310459
46 com.apple.AppKit 0x958c2408 -[NSControl sendAction:to:] + 108
47 com.apple.AppKit 0x959d55eb -[NSScroller sendAction:to:] + 92
48 com.apple.AppKit 0x95a6ba73 -[NSScroller(NSScrollerPrivate) _scrollByDelta:] + 803
49 com.apple.AppKit 0x95a6b02f -[NSScrollView scrollWheel:] + 948
50 com.apple.WebKit 0x927c0330 -[WebDynamicScrollBarsView(WebInternal) scrollWheel:] + 144
51 com.apple.AppKit 0x9594b88b forwardMethod + 113
52 com.apple.AppKit 0x95a6ac62 -[NSView scrollWheel:] + 271
53 com.apple.WebKit 0x927c026e -[WebClipView scrollWheel:] + 190
54 com.apple.AppKit 0x9594b88b forwardMethod + 113
55 com.apple.AppKit 0x95a6ac62 -[NSView scrollWheel:] + 271
56 com.apple.WebKit 0x927c00fd -[WebHTMLView scrollWheel:] + 157
57 com.apple.AppKit 0x958bfd6d -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 8511
58 com.apple.Safari 0x00046f6c 0x1000 + 286572
59 com.apple.AppKit 0x9588bcd9 -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 2941
60 com.apple.Safari 0x00031b15 0x1000 + 199445
61 com.apple.AppKit 0x957e962f -[NSApplication run] + 847
62 com.apple.AppKit 0x957b6834 NSApplicationMain + 574
63 com.apple.Safari 0x000032a2 0x1000 + 8866

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9563246e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565cdcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.WebCore 0x94a05584 WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop() + 260
3 com.apple.WebCore 0x94a01409 WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread() + 185
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9562b286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95632a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9255504e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92555c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95292298 CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 388
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9563246e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565cdcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x9296d741 ::ThreadCondition::timedWait :Mutex&, double) + 81
3 com.apple.WebCore 0x94a6dbd5 WebCore::LocalStorageThread::localStorageThread() + 325
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9562b286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95632a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9255504e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92555c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.Safari 0x00026b55 0x1000 + 154453
5 com.apple.Safari 0x00026870 0x1000 + 153712
6 com.apple.Safari 0x000267fb 0x1000 + 153595
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9563246e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565cdcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x9135eb32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9562b286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95632a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9255504e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92555c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x92b5e530 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 320
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x92afae0d -[NSThread main] + 45
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x92afa9b4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9567a6fa select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9563246e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565cdcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x9296d741 ::ThreadCondition::timedWait :Mutex&, double) + 81
3 com.apple.Safari 0x0011de33 0x1000 + 1166899
4 com.apple.Safari 0x0011df21 0x1000 + 1167137
5 com.apple.Safari 0x00042753 0x1000 + 268115
6 com.apple.Safari 0x000426cb 0x1000 + 267979
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9562b286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95632a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9255504e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92555c78 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9372d5f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9372d480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9565c012 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x936fc648 ebx: 0x9370979d ecx: 0x007b6230 edx: 0xffffffff
edi: 0x1c330640 esi: 0x1c330620 ebp: 0xbfffca08 esp: 0xbfffc9c0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x9370989b cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x1c33063c

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0xbab00000 - 0xbab21fe2 libKoreanConverter.dylib ??? (???) <4b497e7a0027447eaff2b45572bb85ea> /System/Library/CoreServices/Encodings/libKoreanConverter.dylib
0xfffe8000 - 0xfffebfff libobjc.A.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
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Yeah it is not Safari that is crashing It freaking segfaults, LOL.

 

what I'm saying is Safari might not be crashing because of a fault in Safari... and still not effect FF or other apps you use the same way. Just how computers are.

People complaining of crashes in Safari is normal, people complain about a lot of crashes in ALL software on ANY OS....

 

I agree FF use too much memory and cpu and when it crashes(often) most of the time simply restart the program do not work so the only way is to restart the computer.

 

i use FF on windows, i tried a mac, used safari and i still ended up with FF

safari suck? not too much, but FF is still preferred in my book

 

Try Safari with the Glims plugin. http://www.machangout.com/
I wouldn't use Safari if it isn't for Glims.

 

do you have plugins or other software that ties into safari running?

i checked both of the sites on safari 4 and experienced only snappy scrolling, fast rendering joy.

in fact, i opened nytimes.com in several safari windows at the same time and started messing with the flash while running the videos on the site... still nothing but speed here.

 

I have no plugins, fresh install of OSX. I am not complaining about the speed. That is why I am still using it despite the crashes.

 

Safari is ok, but I prefer FF.