So why won't MAC allow its OS on a non-MAC computer?

Hahaha, you just described Ubuntu on my Inspiron 6400.

 

Don't you have to edit xorg.config to change your monitor's resolution in Ubuntu FF? I don't think that's very "no command line reliance".

 

You right click on the desktop and click "Change Resolution."

 

A basic user could get by without ever using the command line. I have a lot of non computer savvy friends who are trying Ubuntu. Of course the customer service isn't there. Google is your customer service.

 

The previous incident when apple used to license out their OS, that was when Steve Jobs was out.

Steve Jobs then went on to establish PIXAR studios and Computer company named NExt. NExt specialized in workstations and had a very strong software group. After apple bought NExt in 1996, Stevie returned to apple, and a UNIX based OS was adopted by apple which was mainly headed by NExt engineers. This came to be the OS X as we know it today.

Steve Jobs is the pioneer of providing a complete home computer system. So it is predictable that they will not allow their OS to be used by other manufacturers. This is what apple is all about. After 1996, apple had the knowhow of manufacturing workstations as well. They moved away from the powerpc processors for more performance.

As a personal thought I would like to add that apple can make a bigger difference if they have a different version of Macintosh for PC. That would bring more trouble though.. like more viruses, and more threat attacks. Even if they charge $300 for a copy of legal MAC on PC, many would actually buy it..

 

Ubuntu Feisty Fawn? That's old, Hardy Heron is out now with Intrepid Ibex coming out soon. Of course, as the others have said you don't need to use the CLI or edit text files unless you want to. I think you have a very outdated image of Linux, how it used to be in the far away past thinking of. I suggest you read my Linux Switcher's Guide (link in sig) to get up to date facts.

 

You guys are using the GNOME enviroment. I have recently downloaded the openSUSE 11 with the KDE 4.0. It is a lot better than the GNOME one. Try it out.

 

I've tried KDE and i have to say i'm no fan of it, the apps also feel out of place to me. I'd rather use Pidgin than Kopete and Firefox than Konqerer. I'm also not a fan of the resources it takes up. I might take another peek at it when KDE 4.1 comes out soon but otherwise i'm sticking with Ubuntu and GNOME.

 

Pixar was founded by George Lucas, he sold it to Steve Jobs in 1986 for 5 million.

 

That is correct...but I don't see how it relates to the topic?

 

See dingbat's post.

 

Thanks.. Steve has developed a MIDAS touch..

 

WOW I really enjoyed reading this whole thread
I do disagree with those who say Apple is hardware company when they manufacture very little of their own product.
Their concept is great though. You keep your hardware limited so that you can tweak your OS so tight it will always run GREAT It also means anyone producting software for their platform knows exactly what hardware can be involved

 

Apple is indeed a hardware company, maybe you don't notice everything they make:

Macintosh: Mac mini, iMac, Macbook, Macbook Air Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, Xserve.
Cinema Display: 20",23",30".
iPod: iPod classic, iPod Touch, iPod Nano, iPod Shuffle.
iPhone:
Airport: Airport Extreme, Airport Express, Time Capsule.
AppleTV


Every one of Apple's products work for everyone (meaning they are not tied to just Mac users)
Most hardware companies don't offer a plethora of products like Apple does.

 

Not quite...

Apple is more like a lifestyle company. So it should be obvious that they will have a lot of products.

1] for normal computer users.. macs
2] for professionals - macbook pro, mac pro
3] for portable music and video - a whole lot of products in the ipod family, appletv

not to forget the iphone.

The very approach of apple is quite different from its known competitors.

 

Then what is your idea of a hardware company if Apple is not consider one? Isn't everything we buy in the world of electronics a "Lifestyle"?

 

They make some of the parts, but more and more of the parts are coming from other hardware manufacturers.

 

they really don't make much. they do the final assembly on several of their products but most of the engineering and manufacturing is done by Samsung,HP,Intel,AsusTek,Foxconn,A-Open,Lian-Li,etc

i guess i was wrong in that they are a company that sells hardware and develop the ideas for said hardware but companies such as Dell,HP,Intel,etc all sell similar hardware.

 

All hardware companies especially in the pc section, use windows.

Smartphone makers use symbian or windows mobile. not apple. yet they sell more.

It is their integrated approach that makes them different. This comes from their own OS. The rest is the same with other manufacturers.

The point is.. along with hardware, software ( and user friendliness) also counts . All hardware companies make their products, but apple is different from them as they make a complete product. That's why they are different.

 

DINGBAT, I fail to see what point you were making as far as hardware companies using "Windows"??? We were just distinguishing what makes or doesn't make Apple a hardware company.

 

Intel+Nvidia+ATI+Hitachi+Samsung+Apple=Mac The only thing that makes them different is their use of in house software and a couple of proprietary parts. It's no more a complete product than a Dell, Sony, Asus, gateway, HP, etc.

But there is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make financial sense to do everything yourself. Plus Apple spends more time making their product less cheesy than a Dell or a compaq or something.

EDIT: there are some "hardware" companies that use Linux now rather than Windows. Just no major companies.

 

To the whole, laptop made from different companies. Every pc (any computer) that I know of, uses hardware from different companies. I can't think of any one company that makes everything themselves.
Though if someone does know of one, that'd be good to know.

 

Every person is not bound to like all concepts. Apple just one of them. You either like it, or hate it.