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    So, the MBP Core 2 Duo in 2~3 weeks?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by perry_78, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. hollownail

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    I'm not saying that Apple's EULA is binding to something illegal. I'm saying by US law, that any contract that would require you to do something illegal to fulfill the contract is inherintly no longer a legal binding contract.

    Usually, businesses don't do this... but I've heard of and seen court cases where they have tried to do that.

    I'm just saying if anything in a EULA is illegal, then it no longer would be binding.
     
  2. lunateck

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    I think MBP will hold off both HDDVD n BD until there's a hybrid available, and be able to fit into the chassis of the MBP.
     
  3. hollownail

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    Yup, it'll be a while before we see BR and HD-DVD in any consumer PC. They are still extremely expensive (stand alone BR players up to $1000 and HD-DVD around $600). So in a year or so, we may start seeing them.
    Or at least HD-DVD as the future of BR is very rocky right now.
     
  4. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    That is thin. OS X as far as I know actually looks for a particular hardware signature, not unlike the authorization process in Windows. EFI and drivers are not the only issue. I believe that they must also trick OS X into believe it is running on Apple hardware. Either way, there is not a single person who actually went and bought a shrink-wrapped version of OS X and has installed it on a PC. It does not exist, you can only buy Tiger for PPC, not Intel. Leopard will be the first OS X version to be shrink-wrapped for sale for Intels. Therefore, everyone that does this, must pirate OS X.

    You will never see a fingerprint reader on an Apple. Apple just is not a business machine and those are directed at businesses. As for the dual layer burner, that is a possibility. I personally see no need for dual-layer. The discs are still relatively expensive compared to single-layer, and just don't seem worth it to me.
     
  5. xbandaidx

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    Acutally, last I checked Apple was on the Blu-Ray committee, so its most likely Blu-Ray would be on Apple notebooks.

    I would be very surprised if Blu-Ray beats out HD-DVD, considering Sony never really gets far with their proprietary technologies. (ie. Beta)
     
  6. hollownail

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    Yup, Beta, MD, and now their stupid little PSP disc formats.

    Plus lu-Ray has been a no show. The gaming convention they just had recently (forgot the acronym for it), Sony really had nothing to show for Blu-Ray and aparantly HD-DVD was all over the place.

    The biggest reason that I think HD-DVD will win, is because they can be played in both regular and HD dvd players, as they have the standard def version on the disc with the HD version in the other layers. Pretty nifty :) though I'm not sure if EVERY HD-DVD supports this.

    Plus, sony's lack of blu-ray lasers and the troubled product launch will only further detriment blu-ray. Not that I care that much... by the time I can really afford a nice HD-TV, the format war will be over.
     
  7. perry_78

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    HD-DVD seems to be the easier format to "upgade" to, hence the chance of its success is greater than Blu-rays. And then of course we have the price... If wall mart can't sell blu-ray players at the same price as the HD-DVD players, then blu-rau has little chance :)

    On an on-topic note, I spoke to the guys at Humac (scandinavia's greatest Apple Store, opened yesterday), and while they were unable to give me a statement whether Apple has refused bulk orders for them on MBP's, they told me they have a feeling something is right around the corner, but can't say whether and when anything will happen.

    So hopefully this means it *some* portable mac be announced within the 3 weeks :) The fact that Foxxcon landed a contract would support this. Btw danish Apple Stores are still lacking MB's and MBP's in volume at the moment.
     
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  9. hollownail

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    Yeah, everyone knows ps3 is coming in nov... which will do poorly as few wil be able to afford the cost of it, and the opening games... suck, except for like 1 of them.
    And we all know with sony's launch history, that it will be a mess. And with only 500k units to go around between japan and the us, things don't bode well.
    I think most people that are going to buy this aren't going to be gamers, but people who want cheap blu-ray players.
     
  10. lunateck

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    I still feel Bluray hav a bigger future, IF they could cut the cost down, BUT u know Sony, always playing expensive n hard to get.

    Anyway, i saw someone mention that porn will decide who will win, that i disagree. Who the heck would see porn in HDDVD, it's more xpensiv n nowadays u could get HD quality just from the internet for lesser price.

    Got too far from the topic. I think since this topic was established a FEW Weeks ago, we havent even see the annoucement of the C2D MBP. Quite disappointing...
     
  11. T2k

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    Blu-Ray is pretty much a no-show today exc ept those truly inferior BD movies out there, playable on only one available Smasung player.

    So far Blu-Ray is a total loser - its oft-praised 'technological advantages' turned out to be nonexistent and their titles, despite using decade-old MPEG2 compression, look really awful compared to HD-DVD's brand new VC-1 encoded movies.
    This year went to HD-DVD, is prettyy clear, people won't flock to buy Sony's twice as expensive player once it gets finally released (if ever, after its ~18 months late) when it's not even on-pair with HD-DVD...
     
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    LOL - PS3 is biggest dud ever in the console world. Sony has changed its specs at least 10 times - in fact it's still chaging: they have changed it as little as 3 weeks ago... hilarious.

    In the meantime shortly after 10AM this morning I preordered my Wii bundle + extra nunchuk, remote, memory card and 3 games with $90 only. :)
     
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    Encoding is another case because u can choose how u want to encode nowadays. Means if HD uses MPEG2, it ll be as sucky as those "inferior" image u say. Blu-Ray nor HD-DVD does the encoding. They onli provide space for u to encode, if there r better codes but need even more space, BR is the way to go. BUT we still dun hav tis better code. Final Word, BR and HD doesnt encode, they onli provide GB for u to burn.

    Weeeee... all da way. It ll be the only affordable machine for poor ppl like me this chrismax.
     
  14. xbandaidx

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    Wait, dude you bought all that stuff for $90 only? Where?
     
  15. hollownail

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    I believe that is incorrect. You must encode using a certain set of specifications. Otherwise the players will not read the disc. You cannot encode a dvd with a VCD movie unless a player has the ability to decode VCD. There will only be a small amount of codecs used for commercialized HD-DVD's / Blu-ray dvds, otherwise they have to spend more money on base model players to support different codecs.

    I think he meant he preordered/reserved it... That olly requires a small amount down on the overall system. I wish I had some extra money to blow on the Wii. Wii is gonna be a blast.
     
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    He made it sound like thats all he has to pay, sorry for getting a bit off topic, but anyone know the release date for it?

    As for what Hollow said he is right, if I'm understanding what this conversation is about at least.
     
  17. zadillo

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    Wii release dates:

    November 19, 2006 in North America
    December 2, 2006 in Japan
    December 7, 2006 in Australia and New Zealand
    December 8, 2006 in Europe
     
  18. cvec7

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    That would would be Engadget where you heard that.
     
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    I just noticed that bestbuy.com only has one macbook (black) listed, before they had like 2 or 3 macbooks, and 2 MBP's...perhaps we can expect an announcement as early as next week?
     
  20. zadillo

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    Possibly and hopefully, but at this point people have been observing low stock of MacBooks and MacBook Pros from various sources, and there still hasn't been an announcement.

    I think it seems clear that an announcement is imminent, but whether that means next week or November doesn't seem all that clear yet.
     
  21. lunateck

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    They would probably announced it next week but ship in November... my guess
     
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