Temps Macbook retina 15 In-Game

Hey.
I´m tested my macbook retina 15 (i7 2,3Ghz, 256Gb, 8Gb and Gt650m 1Gb with default clocks) with Battlefield 3 on bootcamp.

Max temp registered are about 103-105ºC on Cpu and 87-88ºC on GPU.
It´s normal this temps on CPU¿?
Thanks

 

hmmm. sounds a tad too high... which settings did u use? were the fan vents blocked/did u play on a table or in bed?

 

Tested with differents settings with the same temps.

I´m playing on a table, with the vents unlocked

 

i will test it myself on hitman which is a more demanding game graphix wise and i will let u know.
which programms did u use to test the cpu and gpu tempetures?

 

Hardware Monitor, Msi Afterburner and Gpu-z

 

That sounds a bit high for that CPU/GPU clock/combination... my 2.6/3.4ghz turbo on, 1175core and 2600memory GPU overclock only gets to 103°C CPU and 89°C GPU... what I've found that helps is setting your processor max speed to 99% in the windows power settings so it disables turbo boost. This is the best way to drop 3-5°+C without repasting.

Also lubbos fan control for windows is very handy for raising the fan speed temperature thresholds.

 

I'd manually speed those fans up to max before it ever got that hot.

On other observations though... my rMBP reports hotter temps than some of my previous MBPs even though its much noticeably cooler to the touch everywhere on it, so I take the temp readings with a grain of salt.

 

if I change the cpu max use to 99% the temps arrive to 98-99ºC

 

Still high, but I would feel much safer being below 100°C. Anything above it just asking for premature hardware failure...

 

The truth is that I'm pretty disappointed.
When I sold my Alienware M17x, chose Retina´s Mac because its GT650m still allow me to play very sporadically, but these temperatures do not seem acceptable in any way...

 

I only play games in OSX, but the temps never get over 85ish... not sure whats going on in Windows.

 

On what basis did you choose 100?

Given the rarity of first hand reports of an Intel processor or nVidia GPU failing as a result of overheating, I don't see any reason to second guess the temperature limits they set.

I would just use a fan control utility to increase the fan speeds in Windows and then don't be afraid to use the machine.

 

Temps with cpu working to 100%



And temps with cpu working to 99%

 

^ That's waaaaaaaay too much. You might want to clean the fans. If that doesn't work, well I'd say "are you sure mac were meant to run (such) games" but there are quite a lot of people playing with mac without such temperatures so I don't know. Reaching 100% cpu too is very absurd as when running most games cpu usage will be between 30 and 50% for ivy bridge quad cores. Try to get hwinfo, because basically your software is displaying very different temperatures for the same component (at 100% it's indicating 66C for the CPU but in the details of the CPU the cores are at 100C. When you're playing, is the laptop on a clean, plane surface ? Really looks like a cooling issue, and there is no reason to be such difference between 100 and 99...

 

100 is just my personal preference for temperatures and I feel that anything above is pushing the limits of the parts around the CPU as they're probably not rated for temperatures that high.

Mikeypro your fans didn't even reach max speed during the first test.... set them to max and redo it and temps should be cooler. As for the temp difference between the 100 and 99% CPU usage I'm not quite about sure they seem quite far apart...

 

The vent are absolutly clean. My Mac just is 5-6 weeks old.
I´m playing on a table with clean surface.

I can try read temps with Hwinfo.

About de cpu´s usage; Change options in Advance settings of Energy plan, Max use cpu (default 100%) changing to 99%, and I think this option limited the turbo Boost

 

HWINFO temps:



Just need playing 2 min for capture this temps

 

It's clear that turbo boost kicking in pushes your temps up to the point of thermal throttling. That has been happening in Apple laptops under Boot Camp ever since the Core i series CPUs rolled out.

It's odd that the fans are running a bit slower than maximum when your CPU temps are at the throttling point. Also, in your 99% test, the fans are only at ~4000 rpm even though the CPU temps are in the 92-97 range. I think either the fan control in Boot Camp is not working as it should, or Apple has deliberately calibrated the fan control to prioritize quiet over performance. I would use Lubbo's fan control (or equivalent) to max both fans when playing games in Boot Camp and live with it.

 

the fan control on bootcamp doesnt work as it should, install lubos fan control or some other software to spin up the fans

 

Here are temps with vent working to 100% (with lubo´s software)
Still really high...

 

its going to be like that, that sounds about right

 

The max power readings suggest you're hitting full turbo boost, but the max temps indicate you're not reaching the point of thermal throttling. So not only are the temps 10C lower than before, you're also getting more performance. Seems like a good result.

Yes it's still hot, but it doesn't seem unreasonable considering the thin form factor. It's not a 1.5" thick Alienware.

 

Around 96ºC of Cpu is the best temp possible with a vent work to 100% ??
It is somewhat disappointing

 

I suggest you return the laptop.... those temps are disappointing but aren't too high for a laptop this thin.. this thing is a beast for its form factor and power. Also by turning off turbo boost, it should be around 90C... or get a laptop cooler or do something other than continue this thread..

 

The reason for this post is not seeking a solution, since it is clear that there is not.
What I want to know is if these temperatures are all normal macbook´s retina or my unit runs hotter than others.
In any review I've seen mention at such high temperatures.

The use of lubo´s fan control and limited the cpu max state to 99% no are solutions...
I do not expect temperatures of an Alien, but I do not think 105 º C are normal.

 

well lubbos is a solution, the software that manages the fans on windows in a mac, is very deficient.

 

Those temps are normal for a Mac laptop with an Arrandale or later processor (Core i series) running Boot Camp. Check Apple Communities or Mac Rumors forums and there will be lots of posts about it. The older Core 2 processors weren't quite as hot, but high temps were still common. The CPU is designed to run reliably up to 105C and throttle itself so it doesn't exceed its rated temp. Intel has a stellar reliability record and it's hard to find any credible reports of Intel CPU failure due to overheating. nVidia has a less than stellar record, but I haven't heard of any problems in the last few years. Another concern is whether the cooling system can keep other parts around the CPU from getting too hot. But many people play games on their Macs and first hand reports of overheating damage are very rare. So I continue to play games on my MacBook Air and I'm not going to stress over temperatures unless there is evidence it will lead to failure (not just worry and speculation).

If you just can't put it out of your mind, then return it.

 

I will try the same stuff on my MPBr (base model) that is about 2-3 weeks old.

Testing when i get back home.

 

How can read temps in-game on screen playing in Osx with diablo 3??
Any program like hardware monitor or msi afterburner for Mac Osx ?

 

None that I know of. Closest would probably be SMC fan control.