This is why I got rid of my ipad 2 (video)

This is what drives me nuts on the ipad 2 and to be its completely unacceptable. I thought this thing was suppose to be 2x faster with 9x faster graphics? Sounds like rubbish to me apple. Ive tried this on 3 ipads and all are the same and its not my internet connection cause this happens on all 4 wifi networks ivve been on thus far. so im guessing its normal.

As you can see in the video, the webpage is completely loaded, fast scrolling or slow scrolling it doesnt matter. Doesnt matter what site, it happens on all, all the time. For a $700 device, you would think it wouldnt do this. I mean do our computers do it? Maybe ones from 1992 running Pentium 2 CPUs.


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Im actually considering getting a playbook, cause from the time i was in the store yesterday playing with playbook it was seamlessly faster and smoother.

Proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s72rGDUn2uo

 

you can always pick out a few minor things... and specific websites that show up flaws in software... wether is iPad or anything else. Whats your point?

 

The issue with the websites is an optimization used by developers to conserve resources.
Keeping a whole webpage loaded requires usage of resources, so instead they only load the content that is viewed and leave the rest unloaded.
This is pretty much an easy way to optimize, and honestly one of the worst ways. I am not surprised to see iOS utilize this type of optimization, it is pretty typical of Apple to use easy optimization that sacrifice other areas.

 

I guess I don't see the issue. My Droid X does the same exact thing when loading websites. Also, if you are going to show a "proof" video, the least you can do is link one that is an accurate test. The PlayBook vs iPad is an unfair comparison as that it the original iPad. Of course the dual-core PlayBook (which has more RAM) is going to load content faster. That would be like me comparing the boot times of a PowerBook G4 to a new quad-core Dell XPS 15 with SSD only to make the claim that Apple is teh sucksorz and Windows is teh ba-bomb! The videos comparing the PlayBook to the iPad 2 still put the iPad 2 ahead, you might want to take a look at them instead of posting a video that was made way before the iPad came out and is clearly comparing a first generation product to a second generation release.

 

Wow, that is atrocious. I have an iPad 1 and was thinking of getting 2 specifically for improved performance on webpages. Looks like I made the right choice in not upgrading.

 

look at the date for the speed comparison video you provided.

here is a more up to date speed test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrm0TlaLkg

 

It's not all sunshine on a BlackBerry Browser.

 

Well true but still playbook 1st gen or not is 10x the hardware ipad 2 is. Just look at the cameras, 5MP on playbook, what 1.2MP on ipad 2? thats pathetic.

Im gonna head out to my local best buy right now and get a playbook. I need to spend a good week with it to test it out fully to my liking. If not ill just return it but im sure ill like it more than ipad 2.

 

good luck!

 

Getting a playbook would be the worst choice you could make, it's pretty much dead right out of the gate. RIM failed to get the playbook "finished"

However I wasn't that impressed with the ipad 2. thus, the MBP I purchased instead.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blackberry-playbook-reviews-2011-4

What I don't get is why people don't do a little research before they blow their money. I see the OP has already run out to grab a playbook, he'll get it home, and be pissed off that it's not what he thought it would be, and he'll have no one to blame but himself.

And the biggest issue with the playbook? lack of 3rd party app support. For years developers asked RIM to make it easier to develop on the platform, and RIM ignored them, so now RIM is trying to scramble, but the developers have already bailed out and moved on to IOS and Android.

 

Cause we have 14 days to test it out, it costs us nothing. I'm aware of the problems but rim is working on a fix. They're not exactly a micro unknown company so people know they're going to take care of the playbook. Just got the playbook patch right now and I can tell you right away i much prefer the blackberry screen over iPads mainly due to the size.

Gve it time, rim will have apps out. Look at when iPad came out, same thing.

 

*hugs iPad 1*

what you cite is probably the most minor of all possible annoyances.

you'd be willing to wait for a PlayBook fix but not an upgrade to iOS? how does that even make sense? you're walking away from an established product with a market of something like 200,000 apps. and you'd leave that and buy a PlayBook with a microscopic market and "hope for a fix" from BB because...you're not satisfied with how quickly webpages load on iOS?

it's like returning a 911 Carrera Turbo because you don't like the cupholders.

foolishness.

 

huh? the iPad had a ton of apps on launch. I would definitely expect rendering peculiarities to be fixed before Rim gets an entire app market up for their niche device starting from the ground floor. Who is going to develop apps for a Rim tablet? You have to have people actually own the device first. Where is the army of developers?

You don't even have to use safari on the iPad. I can think of at least a few other commonly used browsers that are available in the app store.

 

RIM has been working on the same issues for 5 years dude. That's exactly why they are losing so many customers.

The Blackberry has been out way longer than the iPhone or Android. Do you know how many apps there are? 4,000.

You're going to be waiting a LOOOONNNNG time. hehe

 

I don't see an issue with the webpage loading. My iphone 4 does the same thing and I don't mind, as long as the page loads in reasonable time, which the iphone and ipad 2 do.

Besides, are you really reading anything when you scroll?

 

I also doubt that RIM is going to fix any Playbook issues in the next two months let alone 14 days. It might be a fine product, I don't know. I can already tell you that RIM knows the amount of developers that support their operating systems is rather small. That is one of the reasons why the Playbook will be able to run Android apps (though I don't know how smooth of an experience that will be). They essentially had to add support for apps on another platform just to increase the amount of content the Playbook would work with. That would be like Microsoft saying that there aren't enough apps for Windows Mobile 7 and adding iOS emulation to their software. Instant fail.

Lastly, the Playbook is not 10 times the hardware of the iPad. It might have a higher resolution camera on the back (because we all know you are going to take high quality photos with a tablet, that is just common sense and anyone who doesn't do that is mentally challenged) but the internal hardware of the iPad 2 still makes it the most powerful slate styled tablet on the market with the largest amount of native app support (both for high resolution apps designed for its display and lower resolution iPhone/iPod touch apps).

Sure, the iPad may require a $30 adapter to output audio and video content via HDMI (which is nothing new for Apple, I don't know why people are so up in arms over this) and it may not have a 5MP camera on the back. But, as I said, taking photos with a tablet is just dumb especially when most smartphones have higher resolution capabilities and will produce better results than even the Playbook. I can already guarantee you that my Droid X produces better images than a Playbook and my Sony point-and-shoot takes better photos and videos than any smartphone and tablet on the market (yet it set me back by about $250).

Tablets are defined by one single aspect: their app library. RIM could have stuffed an 8-core hyper threaded 3GHz processor in there with 16GB of RAM and a 256GB 10Gbps SSD drive with a 1080p 7" display and a 25 MP DSLR camera on the back and 1080p front facing camera. It doesn't matter if it had all of that hardware (which it doesn't, as I said, the iPad 2 is still the most powerful tablet on the market as the A5 is even beating the Tegra 2 platform) in it if there were enough apps to actually use it. Apple enticed developers on day one with the release of the first iPad last year. That one year head start has put Apple ahead of everyone and only Android shows the most promise of remotely catching up (simply because so many devices are coming out with Honeycomb).

Exchanging an iPad 2 for a Playbook would be a bad idea as there aren't many native apps for the Playbook, a 5MP camera on the back of a tablet is just dumb and NOT a selling point for one, and RIM definitely isn't going to fix any problems within Best Buy's 14 day return window.

 

Of course this happens. Hulu wants you to buy Hulu Plus.

 

Oh great so my playbook is frozen and dead now. Went to power it off and it froze with a white screen and wont shut off. I saw this happen at best buys demo unit too, the unit wouldnt turn back on cause it was frozen.

Back to best buy it goes for a refund. Not gonna bother with another playbook. You guys are right, too risky for something that id have to wait a good amount of time for apps for.

 

Wow, maybe you need to stick with your Pentium 2 then if you're going to be so hyper critical of the ipad and yeah, thinking the Playbook was going to be gummy bears and unicorns was a pretty big mistake on your part.

 

Im not being hyper critical of the ipad 2, the checker boarding in it is still completely unacceptable for a $600 device.

Could you imagine if your laptop did that each time? Its obviously a ram issue with the ipad 2. And perhaps a safari issue as well.

 

Definitely not a ram issue, the Ipad has the capacity to render full webpages and keep them in the RAM. The issue is with Apple and their easy fix optimizations. They work since most people don't really care that their device is underperforming, underspecced, and underequipped for the price as long as it's superior.
(yes that's poking fun at Ipad users)

 

Ipad is a glorified but giant ipod touch. Now, my touch might become redundant depending upon the smart phone I might get at my contract extension this summer, but all in all, it is still small and portable compared to that behemoth.

Seriously, I would just get a netbook in that price range with an actual keyboard, bluetooth, processor, RAM (yes compared to IPAD) etc than get something that is useless for $500. I mean what good is there for IPad like a tablet? I don't really see any other good thing out of it since you really can't sit there and type anything on it.

 

And thats why an iPad isn't a laptop, its a giant iPhone, and my iPhone 4 does that, so I wouldn't expect anything different from it, so yes, hypercritical.

 

Why should one not be hypercritical for receiving so little for $600?

 

Well true and that to me is one reason i got rid of the overweight ipod. Besides my cell contract is up next month and can get a new iphone 4 for $50 so im gonna do that. $50 on iphone 4 is a lot easier to swallow than almost $700 on an overweight ipod. And if my iphone4 checker boards then, no big deal I paid $50 for it, not $700. When I have the iphone4, I have no use for ipad 2. Its just too large to carry around.

You can type stuff on an ipad but its not very fun and its very annoying after awhile. Its just a total nousense cause it takes much longer and honestly, typing with your index fingers isnt fun at all. A total pain in the a%%.

 

Hey my playbook is running again! Yay

Pics of him in his bra strap case.

 

Welcome to being a Beta Tester for RIM. Enjoy. hehe.

I don't advocate the iPad necessarily, there are android tablets out there that are worth the money. I just don't advocate anything by RIM these days. What Nokia is right now, RIM will be in 12 to 24 months..... Struggling to stay alive.

 

I actually think RIM is already there and are mainly staying afloat by the business crowd (just as Nokia is struggling to stay alive thanks to the international market and all the bare basic cellphones running some incarnation of Symbian). I wouldn't be surprised if over 75% of RIM's customers were in the business category. I know one person with a BlackBerry right now and she received it for Christmas last year. She asked her Dad for a smartphone running Android and he purchased a bare basic BlackBerry for her as he is a city government employee and they all use BlackBerry units.

I am surprised that Help didn't give up on the Playbook. After all, it must have froze for 2 or 3 seconds and that is more than enough time for RIM to send you a download fixing this problem. I am sorry but that is hypocritical. One little thing is picked up from the iPad 2 (which doesn't even hinder the experience, it doesn't matter if a notebook doesn't do it as we are not talking about notebooks or netbooks, we are talking about tablets) and yet a far more imperfect tablet is picked up from a company that is struggling to pull in developers and they have an issue right from the beginning. I guess it is alright if the Playbook has more flaws as it is not an iPad and that is automatically WINNING!

 

smh @ this dude buying a PlayBook.

I've seen it all.

 

Because if the buyers don't consider it to be so little, and are willing and able to pay, then why should we question their preferences? If the market considers the iPad to be too little value for its price, then demand will reflect that. That hasn't been the case though, even with real alternatives competing in the market.

Re: the Playbook. I was actually really looking forward to it coming out. I wouldn't mind having a larger screen on hand when I don't feel like navigating the pitiful excuse for screen that my Blackberry has. Not worth beta testing for RIM though. Plus, with the iPad able to use Citrix, I don't see any need for a Playbook even for business purposes anymore.

 

FUN FACT OF THE DAY:

I went to HFBoards.com (the problematic website in question in the OP)...and guess what? I do not have the problem the OP has. at all.

using:

iPad (gen 1)
4.3.2 OS
Browsers tried:
- iCabMobile web browser
- Safari


Conclusion: The OP didn't bother to update his iOS version out of the box (the device probably came with 4.2.1 or similar) is my guess...then made the hasty decision to return the device.

I dare anyone with an iPad 1 or iPad 2 running 4.3.1 or 4.3.2 on their device to roll over to HFBOARDS.com, look at the full version of the site and try to reproduce the issue. I even tried it on one of my web forums that I have set to 100 posts/page. Full of avatars, text and pictures. It simply doesn't happen.

You can't do it in either browser.

/thread.

 

Who the hell really cares about amazing cameras on a tablet at the end of the day? Are you really going to walk around taking pictures with that thing? I was annoyed at first that Apple didn't include better quality cameras at first, but then I realized I just didn't give a crap because anyone who walks around taking pictures holding a tablet looks like a giant tool, no exceptions.

The problem with the Playbook is the same one RIM has had for years: they just don't understand the market and don't realize how much redtape they have.

Their SDK process is so ridiculously obtuse, I'm stunned. Here's a great blog post about some of the problems (which I also faced, by the way):

You Win, RIM! (An Open Letter To RIM's Developer Relations)

I want RIM to do well. I'm Canadian, went to University at Waterloo, did an internship at RIM. There will always be a soft spot in my heart for them (not to mention I have a few stocks in them, but I far like how my Apple stocks are doing more!) and I like to see more competition out there. But what they're doing right now is just flat out bad business.

 

Calling it a glorified iPod touch is a bit silly. At the end of the day, it has a bigger screen real estate and that alone is worth it in my opinion. I use it for a bunch of reasons:

1.) I love taking notes on it with a stylus in my board room meetings, particularly because we blueprint stuff all the time and I love being able to sketch out designs like they were sheets of paper that I have an easy electronic copy of for later. And with the smart cover, I type fairly easily enough on it. I could accomplish the typing better with a netbook, but for a whiteboarding tool, a tablet is far better imo. Different strokes for different people I suppose.

2.) I travel a lot and I find it infinitely more convenient to take out an iPad than taking out a netbook or laptop on the plane, in the airport, etc. It's just far more comfortable and easier to use to be honest.

3.) Reading magazines and newspapers, catching up on news is just far more pleasant and enjoyable on the tablet compared to reading it on a laptop/netbook screen. Apps like Flipboard, Instapaper and Cloudreaders make me very glad that I picked up an iPad. Reading a magazine (crazy, I know, that people still like to read those formats!) is really well done on this thing.

There's more, but just pointing out that just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't have its excellent uses for other folks. I far prefer using this thing for its convenience over a netbook or laptop in my situation.

 

I'd never buy a RIM or Blackberry anything!

Working IT for years with Windows networks and users, and as of late with clients with iPhones and Android devices needing to connect to their CORPORATE (that is synonymous with RIM, right?) Exchange servers, I cannot fathom why RIM continues to do things their way, and not the easy way!

Practically every smartphone or tablet out there supports Activesync for push email from Exchange, EXCEPT Blackberry. Always been that way. Gotta either buy their Enterprise server software or apply band-aids and glue to get a Blackberry to talk to your Exchange email.

Seems to me, RIM/Blackberry is the NOVELL of smartphones. (what ever happened to Novell, anyways? )

 

When was dual core supposed to be 2x faster? It is clocked only a bit higher than the iPad 1.

 

I don't have this issue on any website or forum. Running 4.3 iPad 2. It was immediately updated from 4.2 when I plugged it into iTunes.

 

I'm telling you guys...I'd put good money on the OP having not updated his OS version.

good money.

 

I wouldn't be surprised. Unless the OP is registered under a different name, I see the pattern that they are doing. They make a few threads (one of them is always going to be a poll) with at least one of them stirring the pot, people call them out on their "noobish" behavior, and then they go away for a few days (maybe even a week). After all of that is done with, they come back and start the whole thing over again. Given their performance here at the forums, I would not be surprised if they were running iOS 4.2.1 on the iPad 2 and not the latest version. Even then, I don't think they would have really encountered the issue as their "proof" video was an iPad 1 (not an iPad 2) going up against the dual-core Playbook. Not only does the Playbook have a faster dual-core processor over the iPad 1 (which is single core) but it also has more RAM. Their "proof" video was nothing more than a poor comparison.

I might as well make a video comparing my current dual-core Core i7 MBP (with 8GB of RAM) to a single-core AMD Sempron notebook from last year with 4GB of RAM only so I could badmouth AMD for making crappy hardware. A single-core ARM processor released a year ago is not going to compete with modern dual-core ARM processor. Only a true idiot would believe that such a comparison is accurate.

 

It is like why criticize drugs when the users want to pay for it?

 

I also couldn't recreate the problem on my iPhone 3gs running 4.3.2

I'll assume the problem existed once upon a time. Now it seems to be fixed. Ta-da. Did RIM get a solid app store up yet? Lol

 

Not surprised he hasn't been back. I wouldn't come back either.