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    Two OS X issues - are they fixed on the newer Macs or do you just deal with it?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by CitizenPanda, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. CitizenPanda

    CitizenPanda Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I've had a Macbook for more than a year, which I used more for just doing basic stuff like watching DVDs or keeping my Itunes Library.

    I've always had a PC however, as my primary system for a variety of reasons (gaming, Windows Server, work, etc). Some things I don't understand about Macs:

    1) Mousing algorithm - No wired or wireless mouse has ever worked accurately for me on the Macbook. The tracking algorithm always feels slow, slightly unresponsive, and inaccurate. On a PC, it is like night and day. Pin point sniper precision with the cursor vs sloppy and sluggish.

    2) Missing first key stroke. Random, sleep related... who knows...

    Do you guys just deal with it or has it been fixed lately?
     
  2. mr__bean

    mr__bean Notebook Evangelist

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    The only one ive had is the missing first key stroke, but thats only ever in Microsoft messenger for mac, no other app
     
  3. CitizenPanda

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    I get it randomly even logging on... ie: missing first letter of my password.
     
  4. kreidel

    kreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    I too would like to know if this is fixable or not because it was diffcult to use.
     
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    jetteichert Notebook Geek

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    As someone who uses a capital letter as their first letter in their password, it is beyond annoying when the shift key doesn't work. "Genius" bar do not understand why this is an issue.
     
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    Can confirm this. Seems to only be within a small time period after waking.
     
  7. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    I don't have any serious issues with the key. I just wait.

    Regarding the mouse, the Logitech mice I use with their drivers have a perfectly usable movement algorithm for me. You could also try steermouse, which is popular as it affords much more control over the mouse.
     
  8. ATC

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    In 10.5 there was a missing first key input issue for a while but it was fixed a long time ago; I used to have that issue on my MBP but after the update I never experienced it. On 10.6 I never saw the issue from the start.

    I can't comment on the mouse tracking problem you describe; never had the issue on my iMac or MBP using the not-so-Mighty Mouse (both wired and BT).
     
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    Ya I have the mouse problem, guess I should check and see if logitech has any software for my g5.
     
  10. CitizenPanda

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    Never resolved here even on Snow Leopard's latest update.
     
  11. CitizenPanda

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    It is not a software issue, it is the way the OS handles the mouse movement algorithms.
     
  12. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    Yes, but drivers can rectify it. Provided your Logi mouse has an OS X driver of course.
     
  13. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    I haven't experienced either "issues" on my Unibody MacBook using Leopard or after upgrading to Snow Leopard.
     
  14. CitizenPanda

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    Keep in mind some people are more discerning than others. These are not issues at all to most people I know that use Macs (Huh?!?! Is their facial expression when discussing these types of things). I just know they are inferior aspects of Macs that becomes issues for people like me.
     
  15. crazycanuk

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    I still find they keyboard issue as im quite certain there is no keyboard buffer to store strokes while busy. Mice ... ya go get a logi they made some nice drivers to bypass that damn built in OSX driver
     
  16. CitizenPanda

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    I have a VX Nano on OSX with the Logitech drivers. They do not change the movement nature of the mouse.

    The same mouse behaves entirely differently when plugged into a PC.
     
  17. crazycanuk

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    hmmm I use an old LX8 or performance MX normally, see if there are any updated drivers and software for tha nano. cant hurt
     
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    I use to use the VX Revo w/ the latest LLC 3.x & never had issues with the mouse. I have recently upgraded to the Magic Mouse. It work's perfectly & loving it. I have a PC that I use for gaming and don't see any difference as ppl have stated with their mouses in OSX.
     
  19. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    I'd call it anal. :rolleyes:
     
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    It has nothing to do with "discerning" it is a complete lack of adaptability. It is a different system. Some things are different, it isn't hard for me going back and forth from Windows machines to Macs.

    It is just a lazy state of mind.

    I have NEVER seen the missing first character issue that people seem so upset about.
     
  21. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    missing 1st key is a nonissue.

    Mouse troubles are best solved with steermouse
     
  22. CitizenPanda

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    That's nice, but it's simply not the case. One algorithm allows for FPS shooting precision, one does not. The missing first key stroke is rampant - consider yourself lucky to not have it (or are not able to detect it).
     
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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Maybe the first key issue is a problem for some. I certainly don't have it...
     
  24. ATC

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    I used to have it and Apple fixed it with either a firmware update or a regular software update (I can't remember as it was last year - it could have been called a Keyboard Firmware Update) and I recall the update made specific mention of the missing first key input in its description. The problem was very annoying so I can understand where the frustration is coming from but what I don't understand is how that update fixed it for so many and yet some are saying they still have the issue... I'm wondering if the update wasn't widely distributed :confused:
     
  25. crazycanuk

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    The update didnt fix all machines, it seemed dependant on which manufacturer actually built the physical keyboard and interface, not the firmware ... the fix did repair roughly 2/3 of my machines in the last year, but I have a few which are hard to pull off the line and send them back again for repairs and an upper structure/keyboard change
     
  26. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    I had the keyboard issue too, on two machines I know of.. both were fixed in updates a long time ago....

    as for the mouse, its nothing to do with inferior and superior, or better or worse... its just to do with how you use it... its totally about the user. I can move easier and be more accurate on OSX than with Windows...