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    Upgrade the MBP Logic Board?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by sulkorp, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. sulkorp

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    So I have 2.2ghz SR MBP, and it is getting its logic board replaced hopefully ts week by the apple store.

    But I was wondering if the main (and only?) difference between the 2.2 and the 2.4 (with the 256mb 8600) is the logic board.

    Because I figured that if the logic board is going to be replaced, I might as well see if could have paid the difference and get the 2.4 logic board.

    I phoned the apple store, and they said that the technician basically said no, but I'm wondering if its not just apples policy?, or is it technically unfeasible.

    As far as I know it should be possible, but anyone else know anything about it? I was kinda looking forward to the fact that I coulda gotten an upgraded MBP, comparable with the current gen.

    If it is apples policy then I guess theres nothing that you can do, but it woulda been nice.
     
  2. Hep!

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    Is the CPU integrated? I always figured it was just a socket, in which case you can easily do the upgrade yourself.
     
  3. admlam

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    Logic board is Apple's way of saying motherboard.

    So technically, not possible to upgrade without switching out the CPU while you're at it.
     
  4. Hep!

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    I know that, and he wants to upgrade his CPU. Which is unrelated. Is it integrated like in the older Macs, or is it a socket? If it's a socket, he can make the change himself.
     
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    Didn't see your post there. Anyhow, it's socketed. Proceed with confidence with CPU upgrade.
     
  6. sulkorp

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    The MBP cpu and gpu are all on the same logic board, and they are integrated onto the logic board, and by integrated I mean they are soldered on.

    Also I wouldnt be doing it myself, because I'm ot willing to spend the money on buying the logic board myself(they're pretty expensive). I would be getting the technician to replace the logic board.
     
  7. Greg

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    The GPU is definitely soldered on, but I find it highly unlikely that the CPU is. Please provide evidence for your statement.
     
  8. admlam

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    Ho hum... looks like it is soldered on as there's no release mechanism.

    [​IMG]

    Since they won't let you swap out the logic board, looks like you're stuck with what you got, short of requesting a refund and buying a new MBP, which doesn't sound like a viable option for you anyways.
     
  9. ZaZ

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    Just my own personal opinion here, it's not worth the cost of the CPU because you will see no performance increase in day to tasks like Office or Internet. Even CPU intensive tasks will only small performance increase.

    I don't know Apple's policy on upgrades, but it seems pretty unlikely any major manufacturer would do it for you even if you pay for it.
     
  10. sulkorp

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    Well the main reason that I wanted to upgrade the logic board was because of the graphics card in the 2.4ghz model.

    The 2.2 has a 128mb 8600, and the 2.4 has a 256mb 8600.

    I just dont know if its just that store that wont do it, if its the companies policy not to sell/pay for the difference in the logic board, or if its not even technically possible.

    At the moment, I'm assuming that its just that stor, a lazy tech or apples policy. That's why I was hoping to see if anyone knew.
     
  11. Greg

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    I see four big ICs on there. The left most IC is definitely the Intel chipset (soldered), and I think the rightmost IC is the CPU. It might come out...I can't tell. If you can run CPU-Z, you'd know for sure it is upgradeable if it says the packaging is PGA. BGA is not upgradeable.
     
  12. sulkorp

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    You can check out this thread here for more pictures, although its from the 17inch version, the 15 should be similiar.

    Even if the cpu is socketed or not ( i see no release) I'm not looking to upgrade the cpu itself.

    I was wandering if changing the logic board altogether, (from the 2.2ghz model to the 2.4ghz) would be possible, or if its just (like i said before) that apple store, a lazy tech, or apples policy not to do this type of thing.
     
  13. fan of laptop

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    I would say that there is no huge difference between 2.2G and 2.4G and I think that there is some difference between 128M video memory and 256M video memory. Anyway, if I were you, I would not bother upgrading if I am not doing heavy graphic job or playing 3D games. I am using my mac for surfing internet and using word, that is pretty much about it.
    Just my 2 cents
     
  14. ltcommander_data

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    It would probably be a policy thing. Every Mac has a serial number which a physical version can be found under the battery. The serial number would obviously identify it's specs and would be used for recall purposes. Apple can't just have individual serial numbers on machines whose contents aren't consistent with the model. If they upgraded the logic board for you they would have to support it and there is no reason for them to take on the liability for individual modified computers.