WWDC Predictions/Opinions

So what does everyone think about the upcoming WWDC? Im kind of excited for the new iphone. From the leaks i love the design but im not sold on the os. Im an android user and its the best imo. If the price is right ill be getting the new iphone ( off contract ) and if i dont like it ill get most of my money back selling it.

Im also kinda hoping theres a new mac mini maybe with the 330m or 335m?

 

a new mini would be nice.. but just like history has taught us.. it'll match the macbook... C2D and the IGP 320m

 

I'm still waiting for a new version of iLife and iWork but since this seems to be about the iPhone OS, how about an iPad version of iLife?

 

The other things that are often bandied about are Mac Pro updates, MacBook Air updates, AppleTV updates, and the mythical Apple Display update for the 30" model. MacBook Air and Mac Mini are probably getting Core 2 Duo speed bumps and the 320M in line with other 13" models. Mac Pros probably getting 6 core Gulftowns and probably a HD5670 or HD5750 (if they can make it single slot) as standard and a GTX470 as the top-end GPU.

I'm hoping for a quiet addition of a CTO option of the GT335M for the top-end 15" and 17" MacBook Pro. At the very least they can add in CTO options for the new 500GB Momentus XT hybrid HDD and 750GB 7200rpm drives.

 

History has taught us nothing !!!
Same story every year, pundits predict 20 new products to be announced and are disappoint when there is only 1 or 2.
It will ONLY be the new iphone, OS4, and maybe one other thing only.... my money is on iLife.... its a developers conference not a hardware expo after all.
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Definatly a new iphone coming out, hoping for a Macbook Air refresh with ULV icore processors. Really want one of those . But I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed with the Macbook Air part. A well a guy can dream...

 

They'd better introduce:

- New iPhones
- New Mac Minis

I'd love to see a new 30" IPS display as well...

 

I'd be disappointed if Apple releases Core-i3 processors on the MBP 13", since I just picked up an MBP 13" 3 weeks ago... my money is also on iPhone OS v4.

 

Something to do with music streaming.

 

I actually would be happy if iTunes gets a music subscription service... although the Zune subscription service is mighty good these days, and it would be a pain to convert all my tunes from WMA to AAC (or whatever format iTunes defaults to).

 

10.7? no?

 

LOL, that would be awesome... lets start a 10.7 wish-list.

 

To the OP, didn't you know that all those leaks of the new iphone is simply a chinese knock-off? Really it is. Look at engadet's archives, etc.

I mean, everyone said it and hated it with quotes like "Ugh! Look at that huge black seam on the side"
It wasn't until Apple acted upon Gizmodo-then everyone was like "OMG! The new iPhone looks so damn beautiful!"

Lol... Fanboyism never gets old. Apple totally owns you. You've been PWNED!
I mean, in the end, you did say it was a chinese knock-off didn't you (Rhetorical). Or at least everyone did in the first place.

Engadget's fanboys ranked their very own link down. How ironic! =P

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/iphone-4g-proof/
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/18/images-of-iphone-4g-actually-a-japanese-counterfeit/

the comments are even worse: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=899594

 

cuz it is ugly.. and I love iPhones.

 

No one ever really likes a new Apple product, just because it's different and not what they are use to. Then they get use to it a realize that it doesn't look that bad.

 

or all the people saying it was ugly, are less than the people later saying it looks good.

People have a tendency to think just because someone likes Apple that their opinion is the same as everyone elses about everything. So if people who like apple stuff said its ugly, and later people who like apple stuff says it looks great... it could be totally different people with different opinions.

 

i think we people behold that luscious screen, they'll care less about it's physical shape.

 

having that much resolution on a screen that has not moved up in size (3.5 inch) is somewhat wasteful don't cha think?
I agree that the pixel density will be amazing, giving more crisp content, but com'on, your fingers don't change size.
Either OS 4.0 will have icons same size as the current OS, or icons are shrunken and as more content can be seen at once, but at the cost of smaller text.

My point is: Even if we could squeeze a 1080p resolution into a 3.5 inch screen, what good does that do?

Look at the Sony Vaio 13 inch laptop with the 1080P resolution. Gah! my cousin has that laptop and she is straining the heck out of her eyes.

 

Just because the resolution has increased or DPI has increased doesnt mean that the icons will be any smaller as the icons in the OS will just be made to a higher resolution.

Its only true that the text and icons on normal computers get smaller is becasue windows has a set size for there icons because they cant personalise there OS for every computer out there.

 

Macbook Air design update please.

 

nope. have you laid eyes on a Nexus One or Droid? you can really see how the higher resolution makes everything so much crisper. it's amazing. I was instantly jealous after looking at a Droid.

no longer after today

 

Obviously the new iPhone is going to be the "big thing" at WWDC. OS4 finally brings multitasking, and combined with the likely move to the 1GHz A4 and an 800x480 screen, that brings the iPhone in line with what the competitors had on the market months ago; a move that will no doubt be called revolutionary and magical. But whatever, it isn't particularly interesting news but it's still a solid update.

It's also time for the iPod lineup to be refreshed; probably all evolutionary upgrades. Though why fix what isn't broken; they're still the best-selling MP3 players after all, and for good reason. Hopefully at least the Shuffle will be redesigned (again) into something a little less inane.

I'm hoping to see some sort of cloud-based iTunes, especially with Apple's shutting down Lala last week, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Honestly I think the MB Air is a goner. There's just no upgrade path - it's already using the fastest LV Core 2 Duo, and rumor is Apple's having difficulty getting the 320M into the thing without major cooling issues. With nVidia unable to give them an option, Steve would probably sooner just kill it quietly than go to Intel graphics. Never mind the fact that the whole concept, which was originally quite intriguing, now just makes no sense in a world filled with smaller, lighter, low-cost netbooks. We'll see, though.

The Mac Mini will probably be refreshed soon, but probably just a quiet refresh. Protip: Don't hold your breath for a Core i3/i5 on it, either.

So basically: Evolutionary upgrades for a bunch of stuff, namely the iPhone. I really doubt any completely new iProducts are going to be rolled out so soon after the iPad; competing against yourself for people's money is never good business sense, and if there's one thing Apple knows, it's how to get people to part with their money.

Edit: Also possibly this, a device which takes "missing the point" to levels I could have only dreamed of.

 

if thats actually true (which I doubt) I'd be buying one quickly... totally awesome... these trackpads are the best pointing device ever, wish I could use on on every machine I use.

 

It would be cool if Apple made something like a wacom.

 

Ok what does that have to do with me? I never once said the iphone 4 was a knock off or that it was ugly. I love the industrial look. That thing that hasn't sold me is the os. Like i said im an android user and it is the best imo

 

I'm actually a little disappointed after seeing some of the coverage. Hopefully I just missed something or a few things.

 

The whole event was only about iPhone 4, Which I can't wait to get, but some reason Canada is getting screwed, and we are not getting it till some time in July.

 

Ya thats ridiculous. You'd think canada wouldn't get shafted like that. Lets see how our carriers even deal with the new iphone when it does eventually get here.

 

i was hoping Apple would nix the AT&T exclusivity and bring the iOS4/iPhone to Verizon's network. AT&T must be giving Apple some serious kick-backs for sticking with them.

 

It is called a 5 year exclusivity contract with AT&T. If Apple broke it, they'd be sued to death by AT&T and 100% they would lose.

You won't see iPhone until 2012 for sure.

 

Impressions thus far:
Looks like it's all iPhone, all the time so far. All evolutionary stuff really, adding features that other smartphones have had for months and calling it "revolutionary magical innovation." "For years, video calling has been a dream, but thanks to iPhone 4, it's a reality!" Right, Steve, right. You totally invented that, video phones never existed before today. Sometimes I swear the man is just a professional troll.

Speaking of the new camera, every single feature Steve bragged about - 5MP, LED flash, fluid 720p video, geotagging - was done on the Nexus One six months ago. There's nothing wrong with catching up with the competition, but it's generally bad taste to then try to pretend you were the first ones there when you do.

And the design. Oh, the design. Screws? Come on man, is nVidia helping you design things now or what? I haven't seen a phone with screws on the exterior since...well, I actually can't recall ever seeing a cell phone with exterior screws before.

Glad to see those new antennas really paying off in the WiFi and 3G reception arenas. *snicker* (For those who didn't watch, Steve couldn't actually get it to load a web page when he was trying to demonstrate the new screen, on either WiFi or 3G. The same thing happened to an Android unit at Google I/O a few weeks back and Apple fans jumped all over it as an example of why Android isn't ready for the prime time like their beloved iPhone. Oops.)

Still 256MB of RAM, still no expandable storage. No 8GB model, either; they're just going to keep selling the 3GS as the entry-level model. Odd.

No word of any improvements to the actual phone part of the phone, so I guess we can assume it will continue to be the worst phone on the planet, especially given the laughable 3G talk time battery estimate.

On the other hand, other battery life has been slightly improved, which is never bad.

Multitasking is finally implemented, though in a predictably half-assed manner. We'll need to wait for more details since Steve didn't go into it as deeply as I'd hoped, but so far it looks lackluster compared to Android's, WP7's, and Symbian's impressive multi-tasking features.

On the plus side, the screen is really, really nice (if maddeningly still 4:3). Like, almost silly high resolution. Hopefully Steve's right about when he says it will set a standard in the industry (though I predict the rest of the industry to go with a wide-screen variant). Could have done without the stupid marketing buzzword for it and, of course, calling it revolutionary (*groan*).

Some of the core hardware has evolved, too. The A4 is no Snapdragon, but it's a huge step up from the 600MHz Coretex in the old iPhone and should make performance comparable to modern Android devices.

iOS4 will be a free upgrade for existing iPhone users, so that's a great change of pace.

And of course, the biggest gripe: It's still an AT&T exclusive. What can you do?

Overall a solid if bland update. If you're in the market for a smartphone now, don't mind or would prefer the Apple/AT&T ecosystem, and want to see what really tiny pixels look like, then it might be worth waiting. Aside from the screen, though (and it's a really nice screen, mind), the Droid Incredible and Nexus One both still beat it into the ground on specs and aren't locked to AT&T, so there you go. As it seems it always does, it comes down to Apple ecosystem versus price/performance ratio and openness.

 

Your biased opinion leads you to assume things that never happened. When did he say that this is the first ever LED flash or anything else in a phone?

while I've seen and had phones with visible screws, I still think the phone is pretty ugly.

They must have some reason to skimp on the ram, but I doubt its a good one. Expandable storage is a wash... something very few people need or want. Keeping the old model as the entry phone is just like they did before... when the 3GS came out, the 3G was the entry level... nothing new here.

last presentation (earlier this year) he showed a lot of stuff about multitasking... whats half-assed about it? You complain about battery life, then get mad that they implement something in a way to conserve battery life?

how is that a change of pace? new iPhone updates have always been free to existing iPhone customers.

guess I'm just lucky where I live... that AT&T while somewhat mediocre is decent enough, and not any worse than any other carrier here... more actual coverage and less dropped calls than Verizon. I'm sure in big cities where the "news" happens, Verizon makes sure their coverage is great...

debatable and 100% subjective.
I see it as a more closed but great implementation vs a somewhat crappier and wannabe implementation. Am I one of the only ones that really can't stand Droid?

 

I don't really want to start an argument here, because like you said, a lot of my opinions are just that - opinions. Largely subjective stuff and it's not meant to convince people who really love Apple products or the iPhone specifically that there's anything major wrong with the new iPhone, because there's not. So I'll just address this:

Upgrading the first gen iPhone to iPhone OS 2.0 and the 2nd-generation iPhone to iPhone OS 3.0 both incurred small fees, in the $20 range IIRC.

 

That was for the iPod touch, not the iPhone. All iphone upgrades were free.

 

I was not overly impressed with the announcement. I see no reason for me to upgrade from my Milestone. The thing is the cpu isnt a huge leep. The Omap 600mhz is what is in my milestone and it can be overclocked to 1.2 ghz stably and performs on par with a Snapdragon. So if the A4 is not that much better then really i would be downgrading. Im also pissed they left Canada until July. WE ARE ONLY OVER THE BORDER. Our polars bears are very fast and can get the supplies here fast enough so change it to June 24th and i may change my mind

 

I can vouch for this. I upgraded my 8gb Iphone3g (Second Generation) to 3.0OS for free while I had to pay for my itouch upgrade.

 

let us know how much battery life you get in that scenario.

because the Evo 4G (the best Android competitor) gets about 4.5 hours of talk time compared to the iPhone's 6 hours. and 10 hours of wifi browsing. reports from Evo owners I've seen cite a battery life half that.

while I'm 100% sure Snapdragon and others are capable of equalling or even slightly besting the iPhone's power...these are portable devices. the device that gets 30% more battery life while equalling most meaningful measures wins.

that'd be the iPhone 4.

 

Here is a good comparison to some other top smart phones.
iPhone 4 vs. the smartphone elite: EVO 4G, N8, Pre Plus, and HD2 -- Engadget

 

while I appreciate spec comparisons (because they are important), I'm more looking forward to real-world experiences. how long the batteries in those devices last under various usage conditions, call quality, etc.

 

I wasn't so excited when Apple introduced the original iPhone back in 2007 (and also the 3G and 3GS afterwards). While it was a nice phone and all, but i don't know, just never want it enough to actually go and get one.
Now though, for some reason the new iPhone appeals to me so much that the minute it became available in my country, I got to have it.

 

I have a 32GB 3Gs. I will obviously update to OS4 when its available, but I have no desire to upgrade my handset just yet. I think its one of my fav gadgets, but I will probably wait until my contract expires, and then wait until the next update in another year.......

 

Well I wonder who will get the exclusive in canada for the iPhone 4. I surely hope to god it isn't Rogers. Then again what difference does it make, we will all get royaly screwed (for 3 Years), with out the common courtesy of a wrap around. So welcome to Canada iPhone 4, oh wait we have to wait till July for ours.

 

I wouldn't say its all evolutionary but it depends on how you look at it.

The jury is still out on the camera as it hasn't been reviewed. If what jobs says about the low light improvements are true it will be a nice bump up from the 3G S and the Nexus One. I've seen side by side shots comparing the Nexus One and 3G S and liked the 3G S better. Sure the Nexus can focus but you can't select what to focus on which makes a huge difference in a photo. 3G S also took better low light photos without a flash which is always better than having a flash reflection in your picture. Jobs didn't claim to be first to the party, just first to bring certain aspects to the camera.

Two screws on the bottom where you hardly even see them are not a big deal.

He was using Wifi only, you could at least get the story correct.

I haven't seen where they announced the amount of RAM, got a link? Talk time is average to above average and Multi-tasking was gone over in detail previously so there was no need to rehash it.

4x3!?! Where do you get your info on this stuff? The free OS update is not new. Overall, you got many facts wrong and your opinion is obviously biased but at least you made me laugh (several times actually).

 

Looks like I'll be skipping another generation, just like I held iPhone 1 until the 3GS came out (there wasn't 3g at the time iPhone 3G was released - in my city - in fact it (3G service) barely arrived before 3GS lol).

There really isn't nothing here I need that I don't already have on my 3GS. Had they offerred 64g, they might have had me (so I get all my media on the device at once), but going from 32g 3GS to 32g 4 just doesn't seem to make sense.

As for the screen, I don't use it for a reader, so the current quality is just fine for me.

And although I am grandfathered into the unlimited data plan, I can assuredly say I would never use the video conferencing feature, except to demonstrate to others how it worked - and again, that is not a reason to upgrade.

Just...need...more...storage...

 

You seem to be very protective of the new iphone. And actually overclocking doesn't affect my battery at all as I have my phone underclock to 250mhz when not needed. As soon as I need the speed it goes to 1ghz or 1.2ghz if I feel. Also tests have shown ( quadrant benchmark ) that an overclocked droid beats a snapdragon. So really the upgrade from the a8 to their own a4 chip is not really an upgrade

 

All three are getting it, Rogers, Bell, Telus, and I think that's the reason for the delay.

 

Here is a Wiki on the A4 chip, Apple A4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia According to that, it runs at AT LEAST 1ghz. We do not even know the specs of the A4 that's in the iPhone 4 for all we know it could be using this "Hummingbird" core that runs higher then 1ghz.

 

no, I just dislike dumb and dishonest arguments.

interesting indeed.

sweet. I like the Evo, especially the size. this is the first I've heard of such a thing, and most Evo owners I know (and I've conversed with a lot of them) are experiencing relatively poor battery life when doing things like browsing the web. talk time is also not so great. if you did something special to underclock your phone, please reveal how easy and common it is to do so. I'm sure it's something a lot of people I know would like to do if it's relatively easy to do.

of course, if you had to do a bunch of strange stuff, it kinda hurts your argument.

why do you say that? you think their A8 could handle that resolution? the graphics that the new phone will be able to produce?

You'll have to explain your logic here.

 

Apparently it does have 512 mb of RAM. But it's still not officially confirmed.

 

that's 2x as much as the iPad.

I really wish they had put 512MB of ram in the iPad. it makes so much sense.

sigh.