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    What I don't like about MAC OS

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by letsjam, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. letsjam

    letsjam Notebook Geek

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    I am really now a fan of the MAC OS and I am glad I now own a MAC and will buy another if it comes to the test. However I think the file explores sytem on the
    MAC OS is a bit let down for eg. no CUT operation-only COPY.

    I think Windows offer a sleeker and pragmatic option in this regards.

    I hope MAC file explorer system is greatly improved in the next re incarnation of the OS- the Lion.


    Still a MAC Lover despite.
     
  2. X3NIA

    X3NIA Notebook Evangelist

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    100% honestly speaking, I don't think I've used cut in windows for 3+ years.
     
  3. bluefalcon13

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    you could always launch terminal an break out the good ol' mv command.

    ex:

    mv ~/Desktop/randomfile.txt ~/Documents/randomfile.txt

    maybe I'm a *ix nerd, or a CLI lover, but it works for me... maybe that's why I spend my days working on Cisco routers and switches
     
  4. HLdan

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    The next version of OS X being released next month has Cut, Copy N Paste and it's done in a much better fashion than Windows.
     
  5. SauronMOS

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    Proof its faster than Windows?

    On that topic, I've been using OS X for years now. Been using Windows on the same hardware. I have NEVER seen OS X be faster than Windows in anyway other than boot time. And boot time is not an indicator of overall system speed.
     
  6. HLdan

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    You seem to have an issue with reading comprehension. Where did I say that Cut N Paste in Lion is "faster" than on Windows? Where did I say OS X was faster than Windows at anything?? Re-read please?

    BTW, I disagree wholeheartedly with you and I'm sure of it that I'm not alone. Speed is not indicative of how efficient the system is. Funny how you became so defensive, especially when you read it wrong. :p
     
  7. Emm3

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    apple mouse acceleration is the only reason Ive had a bunch of alienwares since I sold my mbp. Ill be back to mac as soon as they refresh the mbp 17 though :)
     
  8. kornchild2002

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    This was one of the first things I noticed when migrating to OS X earlier this year. I have become used to it but OS X Lion will change things so I am not too worried. It isn't that one platform is better than the other, it is just that you get used to doing things one way or another. For example, someone who started out computing in Mac OS and has been using OS X for a while now would think that the Windows way of handling this is backwards.

    Speaking of , what is up with the defensive and flame bait comment above? I can think of many, many, many different aspects and programs that OS X runs more efficiently and vice versa. You obviously haven't observed much in OS X if it has only ever booted faster than Windows in your experience.
     
  9. Generic User #2

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    how much better can you make a 2 step command??
     
  10. SoundsGood

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    A) It's about time.

    B) How will their Cut, Copy and Paste be done in a "better fashion" than Windows?
     
  11. HLdan

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    In Lion Cut Copy N Paste can be done all in one sequence. So you right-click on the file in question that you want to "Cut" then choose "COPY", go the section that you want to paste it to. Right-click and you can choose "Paste" and it will leave the original file in place or if you press the Option key it changes to "Move Item Here" and then it performs a cut of the original file.

    In Windows it takes 2 separate sequences, you can only Cut N Paste or Copy N Paste but these options can't be performed at the same time like in Lion. I find Lion's way much more efficient because if I change my mind and don't want to cut the file, but rather just paste a copy of it I don't have to start over.
     
  12. shriek11

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    How is the sequence in Lion better than cut'n paste in windows? Sure, you might "change" your mind regarding copying it, but then you are using two steps to 'cut' the file.
     
  13. SoundsGood

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    I honestly can't remember an occasion when I wasn't sure if I wanted to Copy vs Cut. Nor can I recall myself ever changing my mind a second and a half after choosing either Copy or Cut. But for those that have a problem with this scenario I suppose this will be a helpful feature for them.
     
  14. HLdan

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    Well you're one in several million that have their minds made up the first time, :D . Here's another example for you about Lion's efficiency in Cut Copy N Paste. Once you paste the file, you can decide to move it somewhere else in the same sequence. Simply go to the new area and choose Move Item Here and it will cut the previously cut file and move it again.

    The point is Lion's way is a very efficient way since it adds options for everything to be done at once. If you feel the need to discount that feature then that's your opinion but I can't imagine anyone here saying that the Windows way of Cut N Paste is more efficient than in Lion. ;)
     
  15. di1in

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    That is truly a welcome addition, there have been many instances when i needed to move a file from a thumb drive onto my harddisk as well as copy it onto another drive(cloud/fileshare). Being able to do them in one flow is nice.
     
  16. letsjam

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    Wow great!!!

    It least it will be done without emulating Windows- nice.


    Here is another sloppy action:

    In Windows, you can find info about a folder in terms of the size ect by just hoovering your mouse over the folder; in MAc you have to click get info and then you see a popup over the left hand side of the screen.

    Hey, just try getting info for more than one folder at the same time by selecting them together(command A), in windows you will see the total file size for all folders- see what happens with MAC- You wont have any workspace left on your MACBOOK Screen, All the folders POP UP and fill your entire screen( Don't try 20 folders).

    And Hey, what if you want to close all those Popped up windows right away so you can have your screen back- how do you close them at once?(lets the command A>get info opened 50 folders). Would it be easier to reboot?


    And Hey, lets say I have several programs is there a way to close all of them at once, rather than working your hand accross the bottom of the screen. (never a problem to have several programs running at the same time though- This issue I have only with windows).
     
  17. HLdan

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    Not knocking you but I can tell you have limited experience on Macs. Firstly you don't have to use the "Get Info" option to see the information about a folder or a hard drive. From the Finder menu bar you just go into View-Show View Options and check the radio button "Show Item Info". Every file and drive on the computer will show the information in regards to drive size. No need to hover.

    To your 2nd question, if by chance you ever need to use the Get Info command and you have multiple windows, to get rid of them all at once you just press Command-Option-W and it closes all windows. This is the same for multiple browser windows or Finder windows.

    Anything else that you want to tell us that the Mac doesn't do that Windows can? ;)
     
  18. cmczdub

    cmczdub Notebook Guru

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    I'd say the name of this topic should be changed from "What I don't like about Mac OS" to "What I don't know how to do on Mac OS"
     
  19. letsjam

    letsjam Notebook Geek

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    Yup, rename multiple files- SIMULTANEOUSLY

    YUP, rotate mutiple pictures - SIMULTANEOUSLY.
     
  20. HLdan

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    10 Chars!!!!!! :D
     
  21. shriek11

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    How about you can't go look at all pictures in an album if you open one album? In windows, you can open one picture and then use arrow keys / mouse to look at all the pictures in a folder.
     
  22. HLdan

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    What is your point? Is this is a pissing contest between Mac OS and Windows? Let's not go there, you won't win. ;) And BTW, what your mentioning can be done on the Mac, but I'm tired and I can't deal with someone who's trying to make the Mac OS seem like a difficult and useless system just because he's uninformed.
     
  23. shriek11

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    What is so special about Mac OS X that it would win? ;)
     
  24. di1in

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    After getting corrected once, letsjam seems to pointing out the nichest of niches just to make himself right. lame.
     
  25. Generic User #2

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    wait...let me see if i understand this right:

    1) cmd+c to get the data into the clipboard
    2) cmd+x to cut the data into the target folder

    i sincerely hope i understood that wrong because it sounds ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.

    firstly, an assumption:
    *you are copying many sources to one-or-many destinations. lets face it, the only time shortcuts matter is when you're doing an action MANY times.


    so take this scenario:
    *you're trying to completely remove files from the destination
    1) copy data to clipboard
    2) cut to destination...BUT instead of pressing cmd+x, you press cmd+c.

    since you're doing this repeatedly, you have to check each individual source folder every time you do a cut action to make sure you ACTUALLY cut and didn't just copy.

    EDIT: in windows, when cutting, i paste twice to make sure that i actually cut instead of copied
     
  26. linuxwanabe

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    What about the supposed data loss or corruption that's an inherent problem with the HFS+ file system?
     
  27. debguy

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    Do you guys know that this argument about plain and simple copy&paste looks hilarious from the viewpoint of an outsider to both OSes?
    Please go on! :D
     
  28. MidnightSun

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    Feel free to debate the merits/pitfalls of the OSX and Windows file systems and file management, but leave the insults and snide comments out. If this thread needs cleanup again, it'll be entirely locked--thanks.
     
  29. konceptz

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    Thank you.

    I'm a bit worried about persistant saved state. I'm not a fan of a return to a single file filesystem.