The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    What to expect from new mac books?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by shojun25, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. shojun25

    shojun25 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    21
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Anyone want to share any realistic upgrades, both hardware and software, in the new mac books or provide links discussing similar subjects? do the new macbooks include multi-touch functions? what's the estimated battery life? newer core 2 duo processors (like in the new thinkpads) included? dedicated graphics? switchable graphics? etc.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Most of those questions can only be answered after an official announcement. Until then, any answers you get will be purely speculation.
     
  3. Underpantman

    Underpantman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    356
    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Yeap its still all guess work, although it looks like they will probably be based of the new nvidia chipset, which is being launched on the 15th.
    So enjoy the next 2 days its not long to wait now
    a
    :)
     
  4. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    My general predictions, and their likelihood:

    Aluminum casing: As near as confirmed, unless the notebook pictured is actually the redesigned MBP or MBA

    Multitouch: I see no reason to hold off, the MacBook should have multitouch now

    LED-backlit display: Also becoming more standard in the industry, so I expect Apple to get its MacBook LED as well

    Newer hardware: Whether from NVIDIA or Intel or whatever, that's a guarantee. They won't be still using the same old stuff.
     
  5. Raymond Luxury-Yacht

    Raymond Luxury-Yacht Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    80
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Combo drive in the base model? :rolleyes:
     
  6. unnamed01

    unnamed01 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    194
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Some last min rumor is that MB/MBPs will have Blu-Ray drives.
     
  7. Chris27

    Chris27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    421
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Someone at Apple needs to be shot if they continue with this combo drive BS.
     
  8. Raymond Luxury-Yacht

    Raymond Luxury-Yacht Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    80
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ^ I wouldn't be surprised if they continued with it.

    Even if they did offer the Superdrive with the base model, there would be some other inexplicable omission.
     
  9. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    408
    Messages:
    1,398
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    My hopes for the MB are that they put in decent HDDs. 250GB seems pretty common nowadays so that should be in the lower models with 320GB in the higher ones. In RAM, I'm hoping that Apple goes with DDR3 across the line. Montevina supports both DDR2 and DDR3, but it seems PC makers have stuck with DDR2-800 to save costs, so Apple going with DDR3-1066 across the board will differentiate themselves. It doesn't add much performance, but the power savings would be useful. I guess Apple will stick to 1GB and 2GB in order to allow dual channel operation regardless of whether they pick Intel or nVidia IGPs.

    In terms of processors I'm hoping they stick to the medium voltage 25W P series. The 2.53GHz 6MB L2 cache P9500 in the high-end and the 2.4GHz 3MB L2 cache P8600 in the low-end.
     
  10. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

    Reputations:
    1,279
    Messages:
    2,870
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    9400 or 9300 GS.
     
  11. eddieaus

    eddieaus Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    309
    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I expect the new MacBook weights less than 2kg, seriously the current MacBook is just too heavy as a 13" notebook.
     
  12. rapion125

    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    MacBook - Montevina platform, P8400 CPU, 160GB 7,200 RPM HDD, 2GB of RAM, GeForce 9600M GT

    MacBook Pro - Montevina platform, T9500 or better CPU, 320GB 7,200 RPM HDD, 4GB of RAM, GeForce 9700M GTS (256-bit memory bandwidth)

    These are the specs I would expect from something that starts at $1300 and $2300 respectively. Of course, my bet is that Apple won't even match half of those specs, while PCs do.
     
  13. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Not gonna happen.....especially with Apple so heavily pushing digital downloads through iTunes and Apple TV.

    It wouldn't surprise me if I NEVER see an Apple machine come standard with Blu-Ray. "Disc" formats (CD/DVD/HD-DVD/BR) are all going to give way to digital downloads. It's inevitable.
     
  14. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Yeah, I doubt there's going to be Blu Ray, Apple has never been shy about implementing not-yet-determined technology such as USB and getting rid of the floppy drive in the original iMac, as well as no Ethernet in the new MBA. So if Apple really believed in Blu Ray I'd say they would've already put it in. I think Apple's just not banking on Blu Ray to succeed in the long run.
     
  15. unnamed01

    unnamed01 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    194
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hey all I'm saying is that its the latest rumor, and its what kevin rose said or something lol (according to macrumors).
     
  16. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

    Reputations:
    655
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Kevin Rose = Moron

    Hey, all I'm saying...... ;)
     
  17. unnamed01

    unnamed01 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    194
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    But it was on macrumors :(...
     
  18. dbam987

    dbam987 wicked-poster

    Reputations:
    565
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Since this is all speculation, I'll throw in my wants and what I believe will make it in the refreshes/upgrades:

    1. Intel X4500 graphics on MB's, newer NVidia 9000 series on MBP's.
    2. No more combo-drive! This one is incredibly annoying.
    3. Aluminum MacBooks (no more plastic!)
    4. LED-screens. Apple is trying to go greener, right?
    5. More than 2 USB ports on MBP!
    6. MBA keyboard in the MBP.
    7. Price reduction! Granted the hardware and software in Mac's is awesome, they still cost way too much.
    8. This one is a big wish: massive Mac Mini overhaul!
     
  19. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Kevin Rose hit all the right iPod + iTunes rumours though. New iPod Nanos, new iPod Touch, iTunes 8.0, iPhone 2.1, Genius. Not saying he's going to be right again, but at least he's had some credibility :p.
     
  20. Modly

    Modly Warranty Voider

    Reputations:
    1,413
    Messages:
    1,890
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Please tell me more, kind troll. You must be from another country if you are getting the MacBook/MacBook Pro prices up that high (They start at $1100/2000), and when Apple's products are released they are usually very top notch for the price. The problem is that when products are near the end of their life, they haven't dropped the price for the specs that they had when they introduced that item. (Ie; buy it in the first month, it's a great deal. Buy it after a year, it's not a great deal).
     
  21. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    408
    Messages:
    1,398
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Since you say these are common specs on PCs, could you point out a few 13.3" notebooks that have a 9600M GT in it? I didn't know that the 9600M GT was available in those form factors.
     
  22. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

    Reputations:
    3,189
    Messages:
    7,375
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I bet they ll use nvidia platform,not montevina
     
  23. newfiejudd

    newfiejudd Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    305
    Messages:
    1,139
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I agree with you fully. Apple needs to give more for the buck. If teh new MBP does come with the 9700m GTS. Well hello new MBP.
     
  24. newfiejudd

    newfiejudd Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    305
    Messages:
    1,139
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yes they do start some what reasonable. But start adding upgrades and watch the PRICE SOAR. Yes you can upgrade certain things yourself. But let be honest how many people out there know the difference of prices besides enthusiast like ourselves. And of that many how many would know how to change ram or things like that. So yes apple to start reasonable, but over charge and I mean over charge for their so called upgraded components.

    Not trolling but any enthusiast would tell you the SAME. lol

    And any mac enthusiast hates to admit it. Myself included.
     
  25. rapion125

    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That's the problem with Apple. Most other computer companies release a new computer every few months, to keep current with technology. Apple gets a refresh every year. The prices they charge you with is absurd.

    I fail to see how to go from a 15" MBP to a 17", you need to pay $300. I also refuse to believe that it costs $500 to go from the 2.4GHz (T8300) to 2.5GHz (T8400) and a 200GB 5,400 RPM HDD to 250GB 5,400 RPM.
     
  26. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Apple upgrades are expensive, but it is worthy to note that 17-inch LED-backlit screens are more expensive than usual.

    And Apple rarely has a refresh every year, its usually six months, this long wait was a rather unusual delay.
     
  27. nomoredell

    nomoredell Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    49
    Messages:
    1,269
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    mac=all look no functionality.
    apple comps are totally a waste of resource,
    its much better off for apple to shift their product lines to apple tv and apple display.
     
  28. JonBook Pro

    JonBook Pro Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    46
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Please don't visit this forum if your only intention is to stir things up.

    I've never said anything bad about Gateway without backing it up. You should do the same.
     
  29. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    408
    Messages:
    1,398
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I guess we'd be better off with less movies, TV shows, and music too. Afterall, people like CBS and the Grammy Awards clearly don't know what they are doing when the produce all the music at the music awards using Macs.
     
  30. Modly

    Modly Warranty Voider

    Reputations:
    1,413
    Messages:
    1,890
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    This is the first post I've ever flagged as troll-bait on NBR. Good job.
     
  31. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    This is the best definition of "trolling". NotebookReview absolutely welcomes constructive criticism, as no human-created product or object is ever perfect. Its fine to dislike or have criticisms of other notebooks and software.

    But this sort of post is what we consider "trolling". The member makes no argument/reasoning behind the opinion, there is no constructive comment for improvement.

    We welcome you to post a proper post again if you so wish :).
     
  32. newfiejudd

    newfiejudd Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    305
    Messages:
    1,139
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    What a way to turn a great Thread bad. Thanks a bunch.
     
  33. chen

    chen Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    224
    Messages:
    741
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sounds reasonable enough for MBP, but the graphic card for MB that you have speculated is a bit too high-end as it will compete with the MBP line...people buying MBP must have a reason to justify the extra bucks they are paying for the "Pro"...giving the MB a slightly weaker graphic card than MBP would make the sales of the MBP worse....the MB at best would have a weak dedicated graphics.
     
  34. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    385
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Is there a greater chance that Mac will use Montevina than the Nvidia chip? If not, will there be any support for computers using OSX on a Montevina chip?
     
  35. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Well I hope it has a keyboard and screen :p But a removable hard drive would be nice on the Pro's.
     
  36. AppleOfMyEye08

    AppleOfMyEye08 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I'm interested by all these new leaked photos of the new notebooks but I'm curious to know what keyboard will actually be put into them, since no photo yet reveals if the keyboard will be like the current MBP is, or it will be black like the MBA. What do you guys think? Which color/style keyboard for the new MB/MBP's?
     
  37. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    I think Apple's going to make the MBP keyboard black and the MacBook keyboard white. I personally prefer white but if Apple has set the MBA black I think maybe they're going for "black = professional" and "white = consumer", so the MacBook and iMac keyboards have white keys.
     
  38. AppleOfMyEye08

    AppleOfMyEye08 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Thats something different, white keyboard for the new MB. I thought black keyboards would be placed on the entire notebook line since they would all be aligned in aluminum as well.

    I just came across this picture from the forums at Apple Insider of a MBP, rumored or leaked photo.

    [​IMG]

    The design of the keyboard looks similar to the MBA, where there is a inward curve at sides, also similar to what the styling looks like on the leaked MB photos.
     
  39. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    That keyboard looks a bit fake, like it was Photoshopped in from a MBA photo. There's just something about it :p. And it doesn't look as bad in black in this case. I'd accept it :p.
     
  40. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Yeah that's photoshoped, but it looks good with black keys.
     
  41. AppleOfMyEye08

    AppleOfMyEye08 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Photoshop users are so good these days in passing time. The photo does look good though, I would like that sort of styling on the new MB/MBP keyboards.
     
  42. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    813
    Messages:
    2,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    If you look at this picture:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    You can see the ports. Looks like from the top:
    Powersupply
    ethernet
    2 USB
    1 Mini USB??
    Mic In and Audio Out
    Kensington Lock
    express card bay
    Infrared
    DVI

    The other side has the optical drive so no ports there.
    So if it is all real that means no more firewire? Still no card reader.... and still only 2 USB ports. How can they have no firewire? So many of the made for mac hardware is based on firewire.... could the very top port be firewire and not the powersupply? It is in the place where the powersupply used to be but maybe they moved it to the back or something?
    You find the rest of the pictures here:
    http://www.macx.cn/a/a4000I695495.htm
     
  43. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    3,661
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    The way I recognize my ports, the rounded small one isn't InfraRed but the cable lock (which barely works). Infrared should be in the front of the notebook.
     
  44. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
     
  45. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    813
    Messages:
    2,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I guess you are right. So both the macbook and macbookpro lost their friewire 400 port leaving the macbook with no firewire and the macbook pro only with firewire 800.
    The mini DVI is a bit strange. It is much smaller then the current mini DVI in the macbook and a totally different shape to the micro DVI on the MBA.
     
  46. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

    Reputations:
    540
    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Yeah the DVI does looks small but the little logo beside it looks like a mini DVI logo, Maybe there coming out with a new one? Who knows. Also if you look at the pro pic that has the CD drive facing the camera you can see the mag safe slot.

    They should do the Ethernet in the power supply like voodoo did. Make some room for a Extra USB.
     
  47. sheldon77

    sheldon77 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    31
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    hmmm im a little skeptical about the keyboard, especially for the mbp, because the current mbp draws its intake from between the keys, this design blocks that and doesn't appear to show another place where it is drawing the cool air from, has the same sort of outtake at the back as current mbp though?
    little concerning with how hot current mbp's get...
     
  48. Shmurrr

    Shmurrr Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    how bout putting some SSD's in those macbooks/MBPs? And if sager can put a 9800M GTS in a 15.4" platform, apple can put it in a 17"! And I want a QX9300 in there too, I WANT TO PLAY FALLOUT 3 AND GTA4 ON MY MACBOOK ON PLAYABLE FRAMERATES WITH EVERYTHING TURNED ON(to max), IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK OF STEVE?!?!
     
  49. sulkorp

    sulkorp Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    145
    Messages:
    1,192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    uh, yea. it is too much to ask for.
    mbp hasnt been a specific gaming machine in the past, so it probably wont be in the future.
    and playing games on a macbook? at high? youre hoping for too much.

    but if youre being sarcastic, then just forget what i said.
     
  50. MastaMarek

    MastaMarek Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    83
    Messages:
    632
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    u sir are either high or drunk
     
 Next page →