When is Apple releasing Montevina notebooks?

well,almost all manufacturers(sager,hp,sony,toshiba,etc) have announced their new notebooks-any word from apple?

 

i was thinking the xact same thing there so busy with the iphone 3G they frgt lol =P

 

No words form apple yet

like Filza said they are busy with iPhone troubles

 

When is apple gonna join the bandwagon???

Oh yeah, check it out, that's the new sony bz line of business notebooks, first thing that came to mind when I saw it was that it looked an awful lot like the mbp, not to bash sony or anything, besides apple, they are the only other company I buy notebooks from.

So I guess apple zealots who've been dreaming of a black mbp can buy that and hax0r it to run osx, not that I condone it or anything... lol

 

maybe next month

 

Rumour over at engadget is that a Intel exc says that they will have quad core laptops in August... sounds like perfect timing for a mbp quad core to me.
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I would say quad core is better for iMacs, but they just updated mbp and iMac not long ago.

 

Basically already a thread on this here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=272782

 

Does apple ever announce them with out a event? It will be a couple months. Thet are not just going to say, "Hey, We got new Macbooks coming out", they don't do that.

 

I don't see quad core being it mac books or any lap top of that size anytime soon, maybe big gaming laptops where they can have better cooling.

 

@ seshan !
Yeap fair enough statement. Just had a re-look over the intel roadmaps. And although possible, its highly doubtful that there will be a quad core in a mbp in August.... unless apple has another "mac air" like cpu from intel which is off the maps.
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ps although its only a matter of time before they go quad core... I'm betting that by this time next year the mbp will be quad core.

 

Well the new Quads will fit into anything that can handle a 44 watt thermal envelope. That does count out the MB and MBP but it may not if apple can develop a better cooling system.

 

Even if they could fit the thermal envelop I doubt Apple include it even as a BTO since the high price means the volumes would be very low. An Extreme Edition chip typically cost $851 in bulk compared to the $530 price point of a top-of-the-line non-Extreme that Apple typically offers as a BTO.

 

Yes but that envelope is for the extreme processors only. I would guess the slower now extreme proc would fall into the current price points. I wouldn't be surprised if apple did release the new quads in a new MBP as a BTO system. They need to up the game. The MBP has been pretty slow on major updates, I would also think that with all the exposure and publicity Apple has been having, would only entice them to make a significant jump forward in design and hardware. Then need something to bring in new customers besides Mac OSX.

 

If its a minor update, just to Montevina, it could happen next Tuesday. Mac updates always happen on Tuesdays. If its going to have a redesign too (which may be likely), then it'll probably have its own Special Event.

Apple never likes to be "with the rest of the crowd". They never announce products at the same time as the other manufacturers. They either do it earlier or later. They prefer having the press to themselves .

 

Guys, I've merged two threads of the same subject together .

 

If i buy a macbook today can i return it next week if the new ones are released?

 

Has there actually been any official news of mainstream quad cores? I haven't heard of any and I doubt there will be any for the Penryn generation. I just don't think the 45nm process node has the ability to produce quad cores at 35W TDP or less and in enough volume for a mainstream mobile processor. The mobile market is also the last market that needs quad cores based on usage patterns. And with such a large clock speed delta between the upcoming 2.53GHz QX9300 mobile quad core and the 3.06GHz X9100 dual core, I don't think the quad core would have that much of an advantage even in heavily threaded situations.

Mainstream quad cores probably won't really arrive until the 32nm process. In the meantime, Nehalem will bring back Hyperthreading, and a quad threaded dual core will likely offer most of the benefits of a quad core without the heat and power concerns.

 

There has been some leaked reports from Intel but nothing concrete. And wether or not it will be needed or useful is a pretty user bias question. I remember when Quad core CPU were introduced in desktops and everyone said "That's just over kill and useless". Well what you says a lot of truth, but the more quad and dual cores are used the more programmers will begin to effectively use multi threaded applications. It's a slow natural progression and I think you will more quad core Laptops then most people would expect. More and more laptops are being used in traditional desktop environments. And that market place will only continue to grow. I work for a large Oil company and we have pretty much made away with office based desktops. The only real desktops n our office are mostly for the drafting and engineering and modeling applications. Now what if you could put that same application and run it on a quad core laptop. Mobility would be a welcomed commodity.

 

Dude, you do realize that apple doesn't make their own cases, right? the truth is, i believe that asus or msi makes the apple barebones, but doesn't sell them to the public. Just saying, no actual brand makes their laptops, they just put them together.

 

Man have you seen the new sony Z line of notebooks (montevina)?! That is some competition for apple. If Apple doesnt offer something real good in these next macbooks i might consider a VAIO. Dedicated graphics (I know it wont happen with the MB), a half-good design (MB still wins), DDR3 RAM standard, and a pretty fair price. Please Apple do something soon or I might have to buy a VAIO for back to school

 

Sony VAIOs have been notorious for bloatware and horrible customer service though...but yeah, I do want a redesigned MacBook!

 

I know but ive used Windows for so long that I'm used to getting rid of bloatware, and I've dealt with HP customer service so im probably well equipped for Sony CS. I really want a redesigned macbook too, or at least a new something special that will set it apart from competition once again.

 

Magic 8 Ball says.... "ask again later".

But in all seriousness, nobody but Apple really knows. It's all speculation at this point. Believe me, I'm anxiously waiting for a montevina macbook, and it's been a long wait.

 

Whatever dude, they don't make their own cases but they design them. Don't mean to get into a sony vs apple or pc vs mac or you vs me thing here, just saying that just because someone else makes 'x thing' doesn't excuse the ripoff, which in this case isn't... anyway

 

I think we'll see a redesign of the MB and MBP which, along with the fact that every man and his dog are releasing/announcing new notebooks and the 3G iPhone frenzy going on right now, means that we won't hear anything for a little while and it will be at an event.

I can't wait to see what a redesigned mbp will look like. The mbp has always set the standard for design and we won't be disappointed when the next one comes. (Warning: Selfishness just kicked in) I just hope it won't be so amazing that I have to update mine.

 

When's the next scheduled event?

Ugh, i was gonna go buy a macbook tomorrow, but i guess i should wait.

It's killing me

 

Yeah.. I'm waiting for GPU updates in either the iMac's or the MBP. Then once that happens I'm going to buy em! and mont should coincide with a GPU update i hope.... 8600 be damned!

 

ATI Radeon HD 4000 series for the win!

I'm getting it for my desktop...the HD 4850. I couldn't stand the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT any more. This new set of ATI graphics cards looks like a winner!

 

Technically, that would be Macworld 2009 in January as the only confirmed next event, but its pretty much guaranteed there will be an iPod event around September or October. There could be a Mac event around the end of this month or August, as WWDC this year only talked about iPhone.

 

I definetly agree, my wife wants an iMac, but it'll come down to which of the two gets the updated GPU. Well at least that's my hope haha... But yeah that's the GPU i'm hoping they update to

 

UGH, i hate waiting for my new toy.

 

Yeah i'm hopeful one day the Macbook Air gets a hardware update where it has a fast GPU and I won't need these huge 5-6 lbs notebooks or even heavier iMac's to play StarCraft 2 on!

3.0 lbs is where it's at!

 

Hey Sam, do Radeon cards generally work better on Vista machines than NVidia one's do? Currently I have the 7600 GT (old, I know) on my desktop but it works quite nicely, even though I don't stress it much at all. (apologies for going off-topic).

now on topic: wasn't it around June 2007 when Apple released an update for the MBP (Santa Rosa chipset)? I don't think there was any special event for it, right? Maybe Montevina will be incorporated into the MB and MBP sometime this month.

 

Mac Air will never see the light of dedicated GPU.BTW next Air CPU have 6MB cache & higher clock speed + Lower TDP

The Montevina Rollout for the Rest of 2008

 

For my experience so far, NVIDIA drivers for Vista are terrible. ATI Radeon drivers have been better for me!

 

I'm also hoping for a faster MBA with 128GB SSD for a reasonable price in the same case (I love the current MBA design).

 

Not to mention the widespread issues with some Nvidia parts.

 

the announcement will most likely be after the back-to-school student discount ends, which is in september if i'm not mistaken

 

Apple usually isn't that mean . If its just a Montevina refresh, then I'd expect it next Tuesday or the Tuesday after that; if its going to warrant a redesign, its probably going to tag along a MacBook update with a press event in August.

 

This is what makes the wait so interesting, all the speculation and what ifs.
I hope you are right Sam, and that it's sometime this month or next month.
I would think something as minor as a montevina update (no complete case redesign) shouldn't be delayed too long.

 

I realize this but it's what i want

 

i almost hope it's just montevina so i don't have to wait any longer.

Just got back from the apple store, and they said that if a new refrsh comes along you can upgrade within 30 days of your purchase. If something like the ipod touch deal ends, you'll have to let that go or pay for the touch.

So if there is an update in the next month and a bit, and you buy your machine now, you should be fine.

 

Really? 30 days? I always thought it was like 2 weeks, but that's great news if true. I figure I'll buy a new MBP on the last day of BTS if no update arrives before hand and cross my fingers for a new one in 30 days. Who's with me?

 

I asked the guy at the Apple store and he said 30 days, but promotions that end will have to be paid for. Like if you get the touch and in 30 days the ipod deal ends and they refresh the the machines, you can get the new one at the cost of the ipod touch. I assume you can return it as well.

 

Not me, lol...

 

Hmmm, but assuming that I've already paid for the touch out of pocket and received my rebate afterward, essentially I'm just trading in my MBP for a newer one right? I don't see how they could deny me a new one under that policy assuming I have the MBP and a valid receipt.

 

It's best that you ask just to make sure.

In 1 month the touch deal will still be on, and chances are, if the new MBP's are being released before school starts, then they will be released in august.

If anything i'd wait a week so u can know for sure that you get the machine with the touch.

 

Yeah, I'll definitely call ahead of time to make sure. Wasn't planning on picking up a MBP until Sept anyways.

 

i'm more keen to see whether Apple decides to use the ATI Radeon HD 3600 or 3800 series of discreet graphics in their upcoming refresh of the MacBook Pro.